@AdmiralKinyagi if a no named slash from dr zoro is difficult to deal with
what about acoc zoro slash
what about acoc zoro slash
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Oda happy for zoro to fight fuji in specials and movies cause that ain't his real fight
@AdmiralKinyagi if a no named slash from dr zoro is difficult to deal with
what about acoc zoro slash
what about acoc zoro slash
I wonder if Luffy acknowledging this as "fun" is a way for Oda to communicate the severity of the current situation. We had Kaido say this after Luffy started coating his Conqueror's.
Kaido responding to Luffy with "Same here" is a little weird, but perhaps it's because Luffy is giving him what he has wanted after so long, or something about Luffy in this fight compared to prior encounters is bringing back some of that spirit we saw during King's flashback. We know he started getting excited at the idea that Luffy could measure up to Roger, Shanks and the others, but was disappointed after Luffy lost to him in 1013.
Kaido responding to Luffy with "Same here" is a little weird, but perhaps it's because Luffy is giving him what he has wanted after so long, or something about Luffy in this fight compared to prior encounters is bringing back some of that spirit we saw during King's flashback. We know he started getting excited at the idea that Luffy could measure up to Roger, Shanks and the others, but was disappointed after Luffy lost to him in 1013.
Sure that's fine bro shit happens, we all are very rigid with out opinions, I think its not necessarily about cartoons rather passion comes from wanting to prove ourselves right.
So Zoro's body wasn't completely broken when Zoro unlocked conqueror's Haki, instead he had a trigger for unlocking Advanced Conqueror's Haki and that was understanding of something.
Luffy's understanding of advanced Conqueror's Haki came in when Kaido hit him with CoC infused Club attack and Zoro's came in after he had the internal monologues.
He was connecting the dots, trying to understand what is Enma, what it craves, Shimotsuki Kazoboro's statements and in the end he reached conclusion that rather than holding himself back, rather than trying to protect himself from Enma, he should give in, give Enma what he wants and that resulted in him getting control of CoC.
And that is evident as Zoro was turning on and off his CoC in the middle of King fight effectively and even controlling its magnitude as we through out King's fight.
Starts out with moderately big CoC sparks, then does some sword clashes without CoC and ends the fight with biggest CoC we have ever seen
Well here is how I see it
Shiryu > Beckman > King > Marco > Katakuri (High Diff gaps)
Beckman and Shiryu are top tiers themselves
I am not sure how long Zoro OR Luffy can use CoC or even Kaido and Linlin for that matter. It must be noted that even after Linlin took damage she has still not used CoC that's because I don't think CoC is unlimited for anyone.
But what Zoro was saying was that Enma itself acting on its own could possibly kill him, it doesn't have anything to do with normal CoC on any other swords.
But once again Zoro has that downfall, Luffy has Gear 4th issue and Big Mom has issue, she's a very dumb fighter.
Luckily for Zoro he is fast enough to land hits on her and he now has offense to kill Big Mom. I am here assuming she is less durable than Kaido which she is by portrayal while Zoro right now hits way harder than he did on roof top.
We even had Big Mom her self sweating and screaming "Kaido dodge", this would indicate if that attack landed on Big Mom it would severely wound her
Now this seems A LOT stronger than the move above, like a massively upgraded version
Even if we are to assume Roof Top Hiryu Kaen won't K.O Big Mom, it would severely wound her by her own reaction, this move should be enough to put her down, if not kill her.
Now yes a skilled top tier like Mihawk or Shanks would likely avoid this move but Big Mom has a very weird way of fighting, she literally took Law and Kidd's awakening and Zoro was blitzing her left and right on roof top. I am not sure if Big Mom can keep avoiding her.
Even if you disagree with all that Zoro is at least on same level as Big Mom
So the problem with this is that you need to show me what crazy moves has Kidd actually tanked? We need to be unbiased when it comes to representing events.
Zoro took a move on the roof top that had every single supernova shitting their pants.
Luffy says "Here comes something Big"
Killer says "No way to avoid it"
Kaido and Big Mom were shocked to even sense voices
Kidd himself was shitting his pants even after Zoro blocked
And then when Zoro blocks it, Kidd with infinite ego says "Its a real feat you blocked it, thanks man". While initially his attitude was "Ya'll stay outta my way" he soon realize he ain't all that
Now as far as I can remember Kidd took one punch from Big Mom, one attack from Hera (Zoro took one from Zeus) and then one nameless CoC Less sword strike from Big Mom which he seems to have blocked with some metal.
He didn't go through ordeal that Luffy and Zoro went through. He didn't take Hakai head on, Thunder Bagaus to face etc. If anything Law took shockwave of CoC attack that Zoro took.
I mean I can also say Sanji has been fighting since beginning of raid. Fighting for 30 minutes and not taking any real top tier attacks is not a sign of infinite stamina. Zoro had to take the strongest attack in the series, Thunder Bagua, Scar Kaido, deal with Enma's shenanigans and Haki drain.
I really don't think its fair to say Kidd has more endurance or stamina based on what he has shown.
Well so if Kidd understands advanced CoC then that would be a power up for Kidd, then we can debate Kidd vs Zoro, Zoro already got his power up despite being already more impressive than Kidd even before his power up.
Maybe towards the end of Raid Kidd can close the distance between himself and Zoro but he isn't on his level yet and that's not me wanking Zoro, its just my honest assessment of his feats.
Well I'll wait for your response to this.
I am sorry for taking this long to response
@Pantheos
So Zoro's body wasn't completely broken when Zoro unlocked conqueror's Haki, instead he had a trigger for unlocking Advanced Conqueror's Haki and that was understanding of something.
Luffy's understanding of advanced Conqueror's Haki came in when Kaido hit him with CoC infused Club attack and Zoro's came in after he had the internal monologues.
He was connecting the dots, trying to understand what is Enma, what it craves, Shimotsuki Kazoboro's statements and in the end he reached conclusion that rather than holding himself back, rather than trying to protect himself from Enma, he should give in, give Enma what he wants and that resulted in him getting control of CoC.
And that is evident as Zoro was turning on and off his CoC in the middle of King fight effectively and even controlling its magnitude as we through out King's fight.
Starts out with moderately big CoC sparks, then does some sword clashes without CoC and ends the fight with biggest CoC we have ever seen
Well here is how I see it
Shiryu > Beckman > King > Marco > Katakuri (High Diff gaps)
Beckman and Shiryu are top tiers themselves
I am not sure how long Zoro OR Luffy can use CoC or even Kaido and Linlin for that matter. It must be noted that even after Linlin took damage she has still not used CoC that's because I don't think CoC is unlimited for anyone.
But what Zoro was saying was that Enma itself acting on its own could possibly kill him, it doesn't have anything to do with normal CoC on any other swords.
But once again Zoro has that downfall, Luffy has Gear 4th issue and Big Mom has issue, she's a very dumb fighter.
Luckily for Zoro he is fast enough to land hits on her and he now has offense to kill Big Mom. I am here assuming she is less durable than Kaido which she is by portrayal while Zoro right now hits way harder than he did on roof top.
We even had Big Mom her self sweating and screaming "Kaido dodge", this would indicate if that attack landed on Big Mom it would severely wound her
Now this seems A LOT stronger than the move above, like a massively upgraded version
Even if we are to assume Roof Top Hiryu Kaen won't K.O Big Mom, it would severely wound her by her own reaction, this move should be enough to put her down, if not kill her.
Now yes a skilled top tier like Mihawk or Shanks would likely avoid this move but Big Mom has a very weird way of fighting, she literally took Law and Kidd's awakening and Zoro was blitzing her left and right on roof top. I am not sure if Big Mom can keep avoiding her.
Even if you disagree with all that Zoro is at least on same level as Big Mom
So the problem with this is that you need to show me what crazy moves has Kidd actually tanked? We need to be unbiased when it comes to representing events.
Zoro took a move on the roof top that had every single supernova shitting their pants.
Luffy says "Here comes something Big"
Killer says "No way to avoid it"
Kaido and Big Mom were shocked to even sense voices
Kidd himself was shitting his pants even after Zoro blocked
And then when Zoro blocks it, Kidd with infinite ego says "Its a real feat you blocked it, thanks man". While initially his attitude was "Ya'll stay outta my way" he soon realize he ain't all that
Now as far as I can remember Kidd took one punch from Big Mom, one attack from Hera (Zoro took one from Zeus) and then one nameless CoC Less sword strike from Big Mom which he seems to have blocked with some metal.
He didn't go through ordeal that Luffy and Zoro went through. He didn't take Hakai head on, Thunder Bagaus to face etc. If anything Law took shockwave of CoC attack that Zoro took.
I mean I can also say Sanji has been fighting since beginning of raid. Fighting for 30 minutes and not taking any real top tier attacks is not a sign of infinite stamina. Zoro had to take the strongest attack in the series, Thunder Bagua, Scar Kaido, deal with Enma's shenanigans and Haki drain.
I really don't think its fair to say Kidd has more endurance or stamina based on what he has shown.
Well so if Kidd understands advanced CoC then that would be a power up for Kidd, then we can debate Kidd vs Zoro, Zoro already got his power up despite being already more impressive than Kidd even before his power up.
Maybe towards the end of Raid Kidd can close the distance between himself and Zoro but he isn't on his level yet and that's not me wanking Zoro, its just my honest assessment of his feats.
Well I'll wait for your response to this.
I am sorry for taking this long to response
@Pantheos
Are you dum? Lmao
you literally just proved my point...that panel you showed, where zoro says ”nothing at all”...what was zoro willing to give up for that to happen?
his ambition right? all for his captain
Zoro, out of anyone else has shown the MOST subordination to luffy.
like i said stop reading 2piece
also zoros best friend was kuina, luffys is usopp.
you literally just proved my point...that panel you showed, where zoro says ”nothing at all”...what was zoro willing to give up for that to happen?
his ambition right? all for his captain
Zoro, out of anyone else has shown the MOST subordination to luffy.
like i said stop reading 2piece
also zoros best friend was kuina, luffys is usopp.
How does Zoro show the most subordination when Zoro directly canceled Luffy's plan to bring back Usopp and Luffy agreed?
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