General & Others Can Post Timeskip still surpass Pre Timeskip? Or is it too late?

Can Post timeskip still surpass Pre-Timeskip?

  • Yes it can

    Votes: 36 37.1%
  • No its too late....

    Votes: 56 57.7%
  • It already surpassed Pre-Timeskip

    Votes: 5 5.2%

  • Total voters
    97
#4
I think the main problem with post timeskip stems from the absolute fuckton of minor side characters that Oda chooses to focus on instead of the Straw Hats. Narratively, post TS has a much grander scale, but it has often come at the expense of the main characters’ individual development. Nami, Usopp and Chopper have mostly been reduced to comic relief and reaction shots, Robin seems to have had a lobotomy and a boob job, and Franky has gone from gangster with a heart to a mere kid’s toy.

Oda needs to seriously cut out the irrelevant fucks like Holdem and Urashima and go back to basics. Make side characters fun but competent like Paulie and Perona instead of dime a dozen Loden shills like the Nine Scrubbards.
 

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#5
I think the main problem with post timeskip stems from the absolute fuckton of minor side characters that Oda chooses to focus on instead of the Straw Hats. Narratively, post TS has a much grander scale, but it has often come at the expense of the main characters’ individual development. Nami, Usopp and Chopper have mostly been reduced to comic relief and reaction shots, Robin seems to have had a lobotomy and a boob job, and Franky has gone from gangster with a heart to a mere kid’s toy.

Oda needs to seriously cut out the irrelevant fucks like Holdem and Urashima and go back to basics. Make side characters fun but competent like Paulie and Perona instead of dime a dozen Loden shills like the Nine Scrubbards.
 
#7
I think the main problem with post timeskip stems from the absolute fuckton of minor side characters that Oda chooses to focus on instead of the Straw Hats. Narratively, post TS has a much grander scale, but it has often come at the expense of the main characters’ individual development. Nami, Usopp and Chopper have mostly been reduced to comic relief and reaction shots, Robin seems to have had a lobotomy and a boob job, and Franky has gone from gangster with a heart to a mere kid’s toy.

Oda needs to seriously cut out the irrelevant fucks like Holdem and Urashima and go back to basics. Make side characters fun but competent like Paulie and Perona instead of dime a dozen Loden shills like the Nine Scrubbards.
Yea the numerous amounts of characters is definitely hurting some of these post timeskip arcs.
 
#9
Its too late since:

- The tensions are all fake, and the hype are always empty.

- Luffy is always nerfed in order to create those fake tension moments. No, Oda, its boring, theres no sense of danger. None.

- Luffy hasnt developed mentally at all, Oda had the chance to make Luffy into something more powerful mentally and tactically and what we've got is "i'm gonna be PK" again

- Kaidou depends on hostage, his character is an amalgamation of contradiction. He has no clashing ideologies or lore built-up against Luffy

- theres no strategic war involved, no naval battles, no adventure to search for really valuable artifacts. Its all pseudo-politics, pseudo-wars and 1v1s
 
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#13
I think the main problem with post timeskip stems from the absolute fuckton of minor side characters that Oda chooses to focus on instead of the Straw Hats. Narratively, post TS has a much grander scale, but it has often come at the expense of the main characters’ individual development. Nami, Usopp and Chopper have mostly been reduced to comic relief and reaction shots, Robin seems to have had a lobotomy and a boob job, and Franky has gone from gangster with a heart to a mere kid’s toy.

Oda needs to seriously cut out the irrelevant fucks like Holdem and Urashima and go back to basics. Make side characters fun but competent like Paulie and Perona instead of dime a dozen Loden shills like the Nine Scrubbards.
Wanze is 100 times worse than any Post Timeskip Side character
 
#14
It can, but it's a tall order because the early arcs of the post timeskip are much worse in my opinion than anything pretimeskip.
Personally i feel that Wano is great but it is just too long and we could have easily cut like 30 chapters and no one would notice a difference, if Oda can cut back on arc length + focus more on the Strawhats + whatever hidden lore the end will reveal, pretimeskip can still be surpassed but he needs to control himself a bit.
 
#20
It already has, because it's one story and not two opposing stories. Post TS is the past in addition to the present, pre timeskip is merely a part of it.

For your basic question though, there are some differences. Oda's art direction is much improved, some of the new characters are way more intense, and it's much more oriented to fighting. The pace isn't as good overall and some of the mysteries are a little underwhelming... after years of build up, some things just don't hit the same way especially in regards to how the arcs end.

But overall it's fun to have a more aggressive story. I followed Skypiea, DBF, and Thriller Bark while they happened and when they were slow it felt about as bad. Some of the novelty has worn thin but that's guaranteed at over 100 volumes, duh. These next twenty volumes will close out the goat of shonen.
 
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