Speculations Gear 4 TIGER man

[Sentinel]

I hope not I’m done with Gears (2nd, 3rd, 4th) it’ll become like turning super saiyan.

I disagree.

I think Luffy's PUs are the most creative transformations among battle shounen protagonists. Who just accelerates his own bloodflow or inflates air to his bones to become stronger? Or even better, inflating air to the muscles and combining the elasticity with hardening (spiritual energy of the OP verse)?

G4 modes resembles animals in both skills and properties which makes up for huge amount of varieties when it comes to fighting styles. This is his most interesting gear and if he has Tiger Man, I'm really eager to see it.

Btw, something like this would be great (left side):

It would function similar to Bellamy's power while using the usual G4 tensile force mechanism. Imagine how strong it would be!

 

[Mlzz]

G4 tiger man will happen against kaido 100% sure

 

[sanjikun]

Honestly I'd think pure power.

Boundman is kind of a mix between power, defense and speed. During Doffy's fight he shows off all 3.

- Big trait of Snakeman is python and how it gives chase. He already names it Python in DR, but Snakeman adds "Jet" to those moves.

- Tankman was already seen too when Doflamingo tries to kick him and it bounces off of him.

- And we've seen how high G4s AP actually is. I think we'll see AdCoA used for Tiger Man, with the Roc moves used in the name. Last chapter showed he isn't using AdCoC all the time.


Outside of that. Maybe G5 is AdCoC

You guys are overcomplicating the shit out of this. There's a power form and a speed form. Just like G2/G3 you have Boundman/Snakeman. Tankman is just Fuusen.

"No, but this is 73% of the way between Boundman and Snakeman in power, but is's 37% of the way between Snakeman and Tankman in speed"

Hyogoro stated Boundman looks like a Guardian Deity (as Kaido is stated to be for Wano), and was training KKG for him. Boundman will fight Kaido.

 

[Sentinel]

You guys are overcomplicating the shit out of this. There's a power form and a speed form. Just like G2/G3 you have Boundman/Snakeman.

No, it is not like G2/G3. Bound Man has power, speed and durability. It is literally his default mode or allrounder mode. You cannot compare G2/G3 with Bound Man/Snake Man, both modes are from the same gear.

"No, but this is 73% of the way between Boundman and Snakeman in power, but is's 37% of the way between Snakeman and Tankman in speed"

Um... What?

Hyogoro stated Boundman looks like a Guardian Deity (as Kaido is stated to be for Wano), and was training KKG for him.

Snake Man/Tank Man doesn't look like a Guardian Deity?
And you think Luffy's gonna use the same technique - which he used to defeat Doffy - to defeat Kaido only because he can imbue his attacks in COC?

 

[Camie]

I hope not I’m done with Gears (2nd, 3rd, 4th) it’ll become like turning super saiyan.



I think he has enough, just give him awakening.

I wouldnt mind a gear but I feel like Luffy just needs awakening and more stamina. Using Gear 4th with Ryuo and Adv Coc would be destructive

 

[SwordMaster]

We don't see gear 4 tiger man
Oda draw tiger because he based on Chinese zodiac and he draw next year rabbit probably.

 

[Paperchampion23]

You guys are overcomplicating the shit out of this. There's a power form and a speed form. Just like G2/G3 you have Boundman/Snakeman. Tankman is just Fuusen.

"No, but this is 73% of the way between Boundman and Snakeman in power, but is's 37% of the way between Snakeman and Tankman in speed"

Hyogoro stated Boundman looks like a Guardian Deity (as Kaido is stated to be for Wano), and was training KKG for him. Boundman will fight Kaido.

Seems like you are overcomplicating it by adding percentages to everything lol.

Luffy always gets new power ups every arc. Not sure where your mentality lies that he won't get a new G4 form or G5 against the damn Yonko he's been trying to fight for 400 chapters now.

 

[Deleted member 863]

For 1037? No

 

[Finalbeta]

 

[sanjikun]

Seems like you are overcomplicating it by adding percentages to everything lol.

Luffy always gets new power ups every arc. Not sure where your mentality lies that he won't get a new G4 form or G5 against the damn Yonko he's been trying to fight for 400 chapters now.

No, it is not like G2/G3. Bound Man has power, speed and durability. It is literally his default mode or allrounder mode. You cannot compare G2/G3 with Bound Man/Snake Man, both modes are from the same gear.



Um... What?



Snake Man/Tank Man doesn't look like a Guardian Deity?
And you think Luffy's gonna use the same technique - which he used to defeat Doffy - to defeat Kaido only because he can imbue his attacks in COC?

That's literally what Oda stated in 2016 right after Dressrosa. I don't think my audience is going to be satisfied if the reason for being Kaido is just because Luffy's punch is so strong.

He didn't state, Luffy needs a stronger punch. Raw power is not the problem with Kaido. Base Luffy is already matching Kaido.

 

[Sentinel]

That's literally what Oda stated in 2016 right after Dressrosa. I don't think my audience is going to be satisfied if the reason for being Kaido is just because Luffy's punch is so strong.

He didn't state, Luffy needs a stronger punch. Raw power is not the problem with Kaido. Base Luffy is already matching Kaido.

But AdCOA is already the PU which allows Luffy to bypass Kaido's dragon scales. He needed AdCOC to injure Kaido even better, so yes, he does punch "stronger" than before. Look how Base Kaido took a Jet Culverin without many issues. I still believe we'll see G4 switching which will overwhelm Kaido before he uses awakening. Then we might see the new G4 mode which will pack... even more power.

Luffy thought AdCOA might be enough for Kaido since it bypasses his dragon scales but his attacks were still too swallow. That's why he needed AdCOC which doesn't really boost his raw strength BUT his entire attack power in general. Also, Bound Man hits so powerful because of the tensile force which requires hardening and high elasticity.

Any mode, which has more raw power or has higher tensile force than Bound Man, will do the job to damage Kaido significantly higher than Luffy's current G4 modes. He's literally fighting the most durable character. We just have to see how it exactly works if there's a G4 strength mode.

 

[sanjikun]

But AdCOA is already the PU which allows Luffy to bypass Kaido's dragon scales. He needed AdCOC to injure Kaido even better, so yes, he does punch "stronger" than before. Look how Base Kaido took a Jet Culverin without many issues. I still believe we'll see G4 switching which will overwhelm Kaido before he uses awakening. Then we might see the new G4 mode which will pack... even more power.

Luffy thought AdCOA might be enough for Kaido since it bypasses his dragon scales but his attacks were still too swallow. That's why he needed AdCOC which doesn't really boost his raw strength BUT his entire attack power in general. Also, Bound Man hits so powerful because of the tensile force which requires hardening and high elasticity.

Any mode, which has more raw power or has higher tensile force than Bound Man, will do the job to damage Kaido significantly higher than Luffy's current G4 modes. He's literally fighting the most durable character. We just have to see how it exactly works if there's a G4 strength mode.

There's nothing stronger than the "King" moves of Boundman. That's literally the pinnacle of his raw power. You guys are just pulling shit out of your ass.

But AdCOA is already the PU which allows Luffy to bypass Kaido's dragon scales. He needed AdCOC to injure Kaido even better, so yes, he does punch "stronger" than before. Look how Base Kaido took a Jet Culverin without many issues. I still believe we'll see G4 switching which will overwhelm Kaido before he uses awakening. Then we might see the new G4 mode which will pack... even more power..

Haki doesn't increase his raw power. It just allows him to attack Kaido's internals. Hence the "still too shallow". It's not about strength, but about being able to penetrate deep enough into his body.

 

[Ravagerblade]

official twitter teased it this week

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1476931219946237961

Post automatically merged: Jan 2, 2022

Fans: Yamato White Tiger!

One Piece:

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Fans: TIGER MAN

Oda:

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I think we're 50/50 on a lot of things, including whether it'll be a tiger OR a dragon homage technique that finishes Kaido

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But I'm begging you, please pay attention to the main character

NGL, I still want Yamato for White Tiger. /shrug

 

[Paperchampion23]

That's literally what Oda stated in 2016 right after Dressrosa. I don't think my audience is going to be satisfied if the reason for being Kaido is just because Luffy's punch is so strong.

He didn't state, Luffy needs a stronger punch. Raw power is not the problem with Kaido. Base Luffy is already matching Kaido.

You confused? At this time he does lmao. Sure, let's give Doflamingo and Katakuri 2 G4 powerups, but with Kaido, that's a no go right?


And before you say "Haki", remember that Luffy not only learned Future Sight, but also used Snakeman in combination with it. We will 100% see new applications of G4 or just G5 with AdCoA and CoC

 

[Adamxero]

I'm hoping there is a Gear 4 version maybe imbued with CoC haki making the form have much stronger AP.

Snakeman is all about speed.

Boundman is all about strength.

Tank man is all about defence.

Tiger man should be about AP and destructive capability.

However this whole year of Tiger means nothing in the how Wano is going to pan out as Oda has already prepared the ending of Wano before 2022 in fact if he had followed his own timeline Wano would be over in 2021 so I wouldn't look to much into the whole year of the Tiger in Wano.

 

[sanjikun]

You confused? At this time he does lmao. Sure, let's give Doflamingo and Katakuri 2 G4 powerups, but with Kaido, that's a no go right?


And before you say "Haki", remember that Luffy not only learned Future Sight, but also used Snakeman in combination with it. We will 100% see new applications of G4 or just G5 with AdCoA and CoC

What kind of crack are you on? Snakeman is not a powerup. CoC coating and ACoA are powerups.

 

[Paperchampion23]

What kind of crack are you on? Snakeman is not a powerup. CoC coating and ACoA are powerups.

???

OK, I'm just gonna be put a plug in this one lmao. Clearly you and I have different definitions on "powerups". I guess what I mean in your terminology is a new form to deal with Kaido, ala how Snakeman was used for Katakuri

 

[sanjikun]

???

OK, I'm just gonna be put a plug in this one lmao. Clearly you and I have different definitions on "powerups". I guess what I mean in your terminology is a new form to deal with Kaido, ala how Snakeman was used for Katakuri

Yes, and King Kong Gun is clearly the peak of his raw power. "Tigerman" doesn't make sense. Or is a tiger stronger than King Kong?

There is a reason Oda has been hiding KKG since Dressrosa, not showing it once in battle. And he was even training it with new Haki.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Yes, and King Kong Gun is clearly the peak of his raw power. "Tigerman" doesn't make sense. Or is a tiger stronger than King Kong?

There is a reason Oda has been hiding KKG since Dressrosa, not showing it once in battle. And he was even training it with new Haki.

Thematically, Tigers and Dragons are at the top in Japanese Mythos iirc. or something.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Yes, and King Kong Gun is clearly the peak of his raw power. "Tigerman" doesn't make sense. Or is a tiger stronger than King Kong?

There is a reason Oda has been hiding KKG since Dressrosa, not showing it once in battle. And he was even training it with new Haki.

No, because "powerup" does not have to signify everything to do with pure power. It can be speed/defense/tenacity/etc. Snakeman IS a powerup (in MY definition) because it was the reason Luffy could keep up with Katakuri.

And ya, Tiger in Japanese culture is above Gorillas so of course lol. And if it does exist as some high AP alternative, then that right there would mean King Kong Gun is moot, because this new "form" would exist for that reason.

I also don't agree that KKG is the strongest move Luffy has in his arsenal. AdCoA/CoC imbument already surpasses it, because not one G4 move actually hurt Kaido without Haki. So if he imbues it, it's not actually called KKG, it will be called something else.

- No Gear: Pistol
- Gear 2: Jet Pistol
- Gear 3: Gigant Pistol
- CoA: Luffy calls put Buso: Kola before he says "Gum Gum Pistol". Not done often anymore, more Fishman Island/PH stuff.
- CoA w/G2: Red Hawk
- CoA w/G3: Elephant Gun
- Gear 4/Boundman: Kong Gun/Culverin (the punch that comes after Python)
- Gear 4/Boundman @ Gear 3 size: King Kong Gun
- Gear 4/Snakeman: Jet Culverin

Then you have

- AdCoA: Roc Gun
- AdCoA w/ G3: Red Roc

Are what we have so far with AdCoA and no names yet for AdCoC. So very clearly the AdCoA imbuement at least involves new names. Aka, KKG will not be what is used here, it will either be a new name or a new form with a new name.