Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1037 Spoiler Discussion
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Roc is not confusing at all. It's just like Hawk. You have one "Red" version with flames, and the rest are just Roc versions. Like you said it's just faster so you can use flames.
Oda does this with Boundman too. He has a "faster"/smaller version, and a slower/stronger version.
Oda does this with Boundman too. He has a "faster"/smaller version, and a slower/stronger version.
It's not a combo, but a compromise between the two.
In terms of size/strength
Elephant Gun
Roc Gun
Hawk Pistol/Bullet
In terms of speed
Hawk Pistol/Bullet
Roc Gun
Elephant Gun
It's just an undersized Elephant Gun with more speed. Just like Kong Organ and Kong Gatling. Both Boundman moves but the emphasis on strength/speed is different.
There is nothing that states he needs advanced Haki to use Roc. We've seen "smaller" versions of Gear 3 even in Dressrosa, and we've seen Red Hawk with ACoA.
Roc is just a smaller/faster version of Elephant Gun.
In terms of size/strength
Elephant Gun
Roc Gun
Hawk Pistol/Bullet
In terms of speed
Hawk Pistol/Bullet
Roc Gun
Elephant Gun
It's just an undersized Elephant Gun with more speed. Just like Kong Organ and Kong Gatling. Both Boundman moves but the emphasis on strength/speed is different.
There is nothing that states he needs advanced Haki to use Roc. We've seen "smaller" versions of Gear 3 even in Dressrosa, and we've seen Red Hawk with ACoA.
Roc is just a smaller/faster version of Elephant Gun.
Roc is a mythical bird for those who don't know
The roc is an enormous legendary bird of prey in the popular mythology of the Middle East.
The roc appears in Arab geographies and natural history, popularized in Arabian fairy tales and sailors' folklore. Ibn Battuta tells of a mountain hovering in the air over the China Seas, which was the roc.[1] The story collection One Thousand and One Nights includes tales of Abd al-Rahman and Sinbad the Sailor, both of which include the roc.
Its like a Hawk on Steroids lol that's why Red Roc >>>> Red Hawk
The roc is an enormous legendary bird of prey in the popular mythology of the Middle East.
The roc appears in Arab geographies and natural history, popularized in Arabian fairy tales and sailors' folklore. Ibn Battuta tells of a mountain hovering in the air over the China Seas, which was the roc.[1] The story collection One Thousand and One Nights includes tales of Abd al-Rahman and Sinbad the Sailor, both of which include the roc.
Its like a Hawk on Steroids lol that's why Red Roc >>>> Red Hawk
Nah I think it's a bit different and @sanjikun has it closer. Just look at the names:
- Base Luffy: No special names. Adds "CoA" prior to Gum Gum Pistol when using CoA (luffy doesn't have a special name for CoA in base form)
- Gear 2: Adds "Jet" to his moves. Adds "Hawk" to his CoA moves. Adds "Red Hawk" to CoA moves that are on fire.
- Gear 3: Adds "Gigant" to his moves. Adds "Elephant" to his CoA moves. That's it
- Gear 2 and Gear 3 together (or compromise): Roc Gun, a CoA version of "Hawk" moves. "Red Roc" is a CoA, fire version of "Red Hawk".
- Gear 4 gets weird with names. but as mentioned before Kong Organ and Kong Gattling both exist so there are speed variants to even G4, same as there is also size variants with Kong Gun and King Kong Gun. Snakeman makes it more complicated, because it adds "Jet" again to certain moves like Culverin, which becomes Jet Culverin.
- Base Luffy: No special names. Adds "CoA" prior to Gum Gum Pistol when using CoA (luffy doesn't have a special name for CoA in base form)
- Gear 2: Adds "Jet" to his moves. Adds "Hawk" to his CoA moves. Adds "Red Hawk" to CoA moves that are on fire.
- Gear 3: Adds "Gigant" to his moves. Adds "Elephant" to his CoA moves. That's it
- Gear 2 and Gear 3 together (or compromise): Roc Gun, a CoA version of "Hawk" moves. "Red Roc" is a CoA, fire version of "Red Hawk".
- Gear 4 gets weird with names. but as mentioned before Kong Organ and Kong Gattling both exist so there are speed variants to even G4, same as there is also size variants with Kong Gun and King Kong Gun. Snakeman makes it more complicated, because it adds "Jet" again to certain moves like Culverin, which becomes Jet Culverin.
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