Questions & Mysteries Does Hawkeyes have Conquerors haki?

#1

This scene presents these Humandrills as ferocious beasts intelligent enough to mimic certain human behaviours such using weapons and having ravaged this island to the point of it being entirely uninhabitable. And yet they do not dare come near Hawkeyes' castle. I'm going to assume it's because of Hawkeyes being there.

Now from what we've seen there's only two reasons that animals of any strength or even relative intelligence get scared of people to the point of not even wanting to be in their presence. The first is of course Conquerers Haki as we've seen even a few chapters ago and the second is probably bloodlust.

Let's go through the difference first, bloodlust is what Zoro has that he uses to intimidate people by instilling a sense of mortal danger from being around him. Conquerers Haki is exertion of will that can range from intimidation to taming animals entirely. I put the word "probably" before bloodlust above because we've never seen Bloodlust work on animals before but we've also never seen someone try and use it on animals either. The closest it's come to this is Cracker scaring the literal souls out of the homies in the Seducing woods from just his intimidation. But again you can argue those are still technically people at heart.

Back to the Humandrills then. They are considered somewhat intelligent so they sort of straddle the line enough for it to be possible for either Conquerers Haki or Bloodlust to work on them. So which one is it that's causing them to dread going into Hawkeyes' castle?

I don't think it's bloodlust for one main reason. That doesn't match Hawkeyes' personality. By that I mean Hawkeyes is generally not a bloodlusted person to the point that he was even surprised Zoro was so much like that when they fought. Hawkeyes does have an intimidating personality but that's mostly due to how he carries himself and his position and not that it feels like he wants to kill you at any moment.

That leaves Conquerers Haki as the last option as to why the Humandrills are so deathly afraid of even coming near his property. This also fits more into how most of the scenes play out. For example in the panel above, Hawkeyes is standing right next to the Humandrills and they aren't running away. They aren't approaching of course but they are also not running away. What they specifically fear is coming near the castle. This fits something that Conquerers Haki more so can do since its projecting ones will over another. Bloodlust is plain and simple murderous intent therefore it can't create as much variety in reactions to Hawkeyes. The Humandrills would fear Hawkeyes all the time and not just specifically fear not coming to the castle. It's Conquerors haki that can accomplish that by specifically making the Humandrills not come to his castle through enforcing that will upon them to the point that they wouldn't go to his castle even when he wasn't on the island at all.

The conclusion from this is that Hawkeyes has Conquerors haki due to how these seemingly ferocious animals respond to him.

NOTE.
Theres a few things that are unconnected to this scene that still support Mihawk having Conquerors haki.
1. Later on we learn that Hawkeyes now has the Humandrills working for him in his farm so he essentially tamed them somehow over the two years. We know Humandrills would naturally mimic peacful behaviour if they see it but Mihawk has been a peaceful guy of sorts from the get go and they never mimicked him. It's likely their constant aggression had to be tamed first so that they can observe the peaceful behaviour and then mimic it. This is possible with Conquerors haki.
2. Zoro says that Luffy having Conquerors haki was kind of a pre-requisite for him to respect him as his leader therefore he for some reason has already associated Conquerors haki with people worth respecting before the time skip even begins. The only other person he saw with this was Silvers Rayleigh and we have no indication that he had such a profound impact on Zoro that he would change Zoro's entire criteria of who to respect. The only other person we know Zoro looks up to is Hawkeyes and so this mindset could only have been instilled in him if Hawkeyes has Conquerors haki as well.

That's about it. What do you guys think about these seemingly subtle cues that Oda may be dropping?
 
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ardym

#2
most likely yes as the strongest schichibuaki and Shank's rival he should have it , but just like Sengoku it is not his specialty , so most likely we will never see him use it.
Doffy and Hancock have it so i'm pretty sure he has it as well.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#3
Mihawk and even Ryuma feel like some of the most intimidating characters in the verse, just like WB was.

I feel like they all got CoC.

Also you are perfectly right, the Humandrills always replicated Mihawk's behaviour and were never capable of developing mutations in behaviour so that's a nice point.
 
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ardym

#4
but still that they don't go to the castle is not because of his CoC haki more likely because they know that they will get beaten that's all. knowing that can be intimidating as well.
anyway having it is just an indication for the power of someone and his great will , but if he can use it or it is another thing
WB was able to use it in clashes against Shanks and Roger but he didn't use it in MF , if he was able to use it the same way shanks, Rayleigh , Luffy and for sure Roger , he could have taken down 90% of the marines due to the difference of power , i think only those who have ranks in the marines would have been able to withstand it.
lower ranks and normal soldiers would not survive that. Luffy was no where compared to WB and was able to take punch of the marine
 
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Jo_Ndule

#5
:kayneshrug: Simple quiz :

Does Zoro fight conquerors? No
Does Zoro has CoC? No
Is Zoro a born leader? No
Did Zoro lead any crew or group before? No
or have the crew named after him? No
Will he ever battle a CoC user 1 vs 1 or with help? No

Why would Zoro's master have CoC again?
Especially when this dude is a solo man living in paradise, chasing fodders.
 
#6
most likely yes as the strongest schichibuaki and Shank's rival he should have it , but just like Sengoku it is not his specialty , so most likely we will never see him use it.
Doffy and Hancock have it so i'm pretty sure he has it as well.
See I don't like this. I don't like the whole "it's revealed in the data book and we don't have to actually see it in the story"

Like unless CoC is actually useless when top tier fights are involved until the very end of the series then if Mihawk or Sengoku never use it, its essentially them not really having it.

Like Luffy doesn't have Armament or Observation as his "specialty" and yet he reached the advanced versions before both Zoro and Luffy so really specialisation doesn't matter in whether Mihawk uses it or not when he has it. The only way this is acceptable is if CoC never actually applies the top tier fights in the long run
 
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ardym

#7
See I don't like this. I don't like the whole "it's revealed in the data book and we don't have to actually see it in the story"

Like unless CoC is actually useless when top tier fights are involved until the very end of the series then if Mihawk or Sengoku never use it, its essentially them not really having it.

Like Luffy doesn't have Armament or Observation as his "specialty" and yet he reached the advanced versions before both Zoro and Luffy so really specialisation doesn't matter in whether Mihawk uses it or not when he has it. The only way this is acceptable is if CoC never actually applies the top tier fights in the long run
no it is for srue not useless , i just think those who has it can withstand the will power of other users , but they might not be able to use it like the specialists . and Luffy is CoC specialist but he is an all-rounder and have a gift in haki
so he will be able to use all of the colors to an optimum. i think CoC specialist are always good in the other colors as well.
if i assume those will be Roger , (maybe Rayleigh assuming he is an old Shanks) , Shanks , Dragon and Luffy.
 
#8
but still that they don't go to the castle is not because of his CoC haki more likely because they know that they will get beaten that's all. knowing that can be intimidating as well.
But then are you seeing how selective their fear is? They are standing right next to Mihawk in this scene not running in fear or anything. They just stop acting aggressive and shit around him. And yet they can never approach his castle. Like even if he leaves the island for days, there's something that specifically makes them not even try to come near his castle.

This is extremely specfic for just animal behaviour. It's like they actually respect like property ownership laws or something which if true is really wild and Oda was downplaying how intelligent they are.

Simple fear of Mihawk would work the same way animals fear anything. This on the other hand is like he trained them or something which he did not. Leaving CoC
 
#12
i think CoC specialist are always good in the other colors as well
This is getting into Hunter X hunter levels of power logic which have never been defined at all.

Theres too many assumptions here about what CoC can be used for or what specialisation means or supposedly what Luffy is good at that everyone else isn't... Like none of this defined anywhere and all that's left is what happens directly in the manga and what doesn't

Maybe I'm just jaded but I just can't get behind a person literally never showing the thing in actual manga. It's like how Oden is here having never used CoC once and yet Ashura said he had it... The man is about to die in like 2 chapters about nd we've gone through 20 years of this man's life and hes never used it once... what are we suppsed to say to that now?

He fought just 1000 beast pirates and the man is stated to have CoC and yet he's never used it to like clear out all those fodder. Why should we have to make the mental gymnastics for Oda to justify something like this? His power system is not that complicated since he chooses not to make it that way. No need to infer for him what any of this means
 
#13
No he doesnt. Hes too weak willed.
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:kayneshrug: Simple quiz :

Does Zoro fight conquerors? No
Does Zoro has CoC? No
Is Zoro a born leader? No
Did Zoro lead any crew or group before? No
or have the crew named after him? No
Will he ever battle a CoC user 1 vs 1 or with help? No

Why would Zoro's master have CoC again?
Especially when this dude is a solo man living in paradise, chasing fodders.
^^^^^^^

@mods close the thread please. Even Usopp has a better chance than Mihawk.
 
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#18
reply before even reading the post.

I do not think so.
why?
because Mihawk is not conquering or leading anything. he is his on his own.

you could say that he is standing above everyone else... in swordsmanship, but I do not agree to that reasoning.
until he shows it I doubt he has it.
same goes for Zoro by the way.
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now I read it.
still no.

they fear Mihawk cause they know they are no match to him. they do not go near him.
they know the castle is Mihawks lair.
animals do not willingly go to their predators lair.
 
#20
Mihawk is a loner with no real ambition
No real ambition? You mean becoming WSS isn't a real ambition
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they fear Mihawk cause they know they are no match to him. they do not go near him.
they know the castle is Mihawks lair.
animals do not willingly go to their predators lair.
But they don't go near his castle even when he leaves the island. And how come he can stand right next to them while talking to Zoro yet they fear him so much
 
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