Powers & Abilities Big Mom and Kaido have used Hakai other times...
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Headcannon of yours. Never said Roger fears BM. Just said he explicity avoided a fight with her. He didn't the same with WB but pretty much because they were friends.
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We have any clue of Sengoku being there? Plus Garp was helping them doesn't mean he was fighting side by side with Roger. Rayleigh makes much more sense and I'm more confortable with someone wielding weapons tanking Hakai than it bare hands.
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Just answered that
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...why not add Garp and Sengoku while you're at it..
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Just answered that
Irrelevant feat. He couldnt even bring him down, which Zoro hoped at least to do lmao. That's crappy attack power, otherwise Kaido at least would be down after that attack.
Harder skin is irrelevant. It was implied that Zoro's attacks were good enough to deal relevant damage to King despite not being able to cut through his skin and that's why King was blocking Zoro's attacks.
Because in the same way a kevlar wont protect you from the kinetic energy/blunt impact of a bullet, it only will not allow the bullet to not pierce through your skin but one shot might have even your ribs broke depending of the gun's caliber.
So no, King is nothing impressive in durability. Actually he is below Queen, who has a tankier dino and cyborg body at the same time.
Let alone Kaido who has direct scalling from ppl who tanked Shirohige's quakes.
Harder skin is irrelevant. It was implied that Zoro's attacks were good enough to deal relevant damage to King despite not being able to cut through his skin and that's why King was blocking Zoro's attacks.
Because in the same way a kevlar wont protect you from the kinetic energy/blunt impact of a bullet, it only will not allow the bullet to not pierce through your skin but one shot might have even your ribs broke depending of the gun's caliber.
So no, King is nothing impressive in durability. Actually he is below Queen, who has a tankier dino and cyborg body at the same time.
Let alone Kaido who has direct scalling from ppl who tanked Shirohige's quakes.
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Irrelevant feat hahahaha. Scabbards that managed to knock Kaido down but couldn't even REOPEN his old scar but Zoro went further by making a NEW scar on Kaido only for some random hater in a forum call it irrelevant feat.
Harder skin is also irrelevant. What is not irrelevant to you? Zoro was doing damage to King's flames off. King was blocking Zoro's attack because he had flames off. King didn't block while flames on pretty much he is only taking damage flames off so your analysis is completely wrong.
King is more durable than Kaido. Period. And to say he is below Queen hahahaha. King went down by ACoC CUT attacks and Queen didn't.
Wtf? Didn't understood your last message.
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Cap hahahaha. Roger has no problem in beating others. He is taking fight with who ever shows up.
Harder skin is also irrelevant. What is not irrelevant to you? Zoro was doing damage to King's flames off. King was blocking Zoro's attack because he had flames off. King didn't block while flames on pretty much he is only taking damage flames off so your analysis is completely wrong.
King is more durable than Kaido. Period. And to say he is below Queen hahahaha. King went down by ACoC CUT attacks and Queen didn't.
Wtf? Didn't understood your last message.
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Cap hahahaha. Roger has no problem in beating others. He is taking fight with who ever shows up.
are you saying Roger and Rey blocking it would equate zoro's feat to their.... WOAHH...
-Roger and Rey is several times stronger than zoro atm literally out classes zoro in every aspect
- Bm and Apprentice combo ain't shit
Roger alone would just parry or counter it
a 30 yr old hag and an apprentice ain't shit to Prime Rey and Roger
just what was the thought process behind this thread
-Roger and Rey is several times stronger than zoro atm literally out classes zoro in every aspect
- Bm and Apprentice combo ain't shit
Roger alone would just parry or counter it
a 30 yr old hag and an apprentice ain't shit to Prime Rey and Roger
just what was the thought process behind this thread
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are you saying Roger and Rey blocking it would equate zoro's feat to their.... WOAHH...
-Roger and Rey is several times stronger than zoro atm literally out classes zoro in every aspect
- Bm and Apprentice combo ain't shit
Roger alone would just parry or counter it
a 30 yr old hag and an apprentice ain't shit to Prime Rey and Roger
just what was the thought process behind this thread
-Roger and Rey is several times stronger than zoro atm literally out classes zoro in every aspect
- Bm and Apprentice combo ain't shit
Roger alone would just parry or counter it
a 30 yr old hag and an apprentice ain't shit to Prime Rey and Roger
just what was the thought process behind this thread
If they block it fully of course is not equal. But some haters still saying Ragnarok that knocked Luffy out is still stronger than Hakai. Like knocking Luffy out is something difficult to do(only to Katakuri).
Let's see if Roger and Rayleigh will just parry it. Kaido and BM being young at God Valley does not mean that they are apprentice. BM was apprentice when she was 6-12 years old with 50-500mi belly bounty, actually she was already captain back there I believe.
Be sure Rayleigh alone will not parry. Otherwise would be a shit combo that they would have no reason to replicate here(not that Oda will logically thing about this).
ok i get what you're saying but Kaido was said to be an apprentice back then.. even if BM was that nuts she is vastly inferior compared prime Roger innt so the combo from BM and kaido back then isn't gonna cut it to push rayleigh and prime Roger you could saying Ray would just hold/parry it or even deflect it given how much stronger he is compared to current zoro and how much weaker BM and kaido were back then compared to now.. they are at basically their peak atm... but i believe Roger or even WB individually and parry or block it definitely.
and addressing the latter regarding rey parrying it would make it pointless to repeat it.. nah i don't think that is the line of thought you should be taking coz its logical that that hypothetical Hakai is decently weaker than this hakai due to BM and kaido not being in prime and are pretty young... so its logical that that Hakai would be pretty weaker than this Hakai
and addressing the latter regarding rey parrying it would make it pointless to repeat it.. nah i don't think that is the line of thought you should be taking coz its logical that that hypothetical Hakai is decently weaker than this hakai due to BM and kaido not being in prime and are pretty young... so its logical that that Hakai would be pretty weaker than this Hakai
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Apprentice with 21 years old...
Either way, it is also stated that both him and Big Mom are now much stronger than they were back at God Valley. Being apprentice or not doesn't make a difference. They pretty much made Hakai back then and pretty much took 2 people to block it. Wait and see.
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You guys hardly forget all situations that made Rocks pirates to fall.
First of all, they were a crew that didn't handled well with each other. So we already have betrayal plot here.
Second of all, it took an alliance of marines and pirates to take them out.
Third, that alliance was made by some of the biggest names on sea after that like Roger, Garp and Rayleigh. Of course BM, Kaido, WB, Shiki and Rocks himself were also great names but remember... betrayal plot.
You really think Rocks would be a big deal if future Yonkos were a joke back then? What you are trying to say is that Roger's crew and Garp's marine force basically neg/low diff all those big names and focused only on Rocks.
Either way, it is also stated that both him and Big Mom are now much stronger than they were back at God Valley. Being apprentice or not doesn't make a difference. They pretty much made Hakai back then and pretty much took 2 people to block it. Wait and see.
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You guys hardly forget all situations that made Rocks pirates to fall.
First of all, they were a crew that didn't handled well with each other. So we already have betrayal plot here.
Second of all, it took an alliance of marines and pirates to take them out.
Third, that alliance was made by some of the biggest names on sea after that like Roger, Garp and Rayleigh. Of course BM, Kaido, WB, Shiki and Rocks himself were also great names but remember... betrayal plot.
You really think Rocks would be a big deal if future Yonkos were a joke back then? What you are trying to say is that Roger's crew and Garp's marine force basically neg/low diff all those big names and focused only on Rocks.
are you saying Roger and Rey blocking it would equate zoro's feat to their.... WOAHH...
-Roger and Rey is several times stronger than zoro atm literally out classes zoro in every aspect
- Bm and Apprentice combo ain't shit
Roger alone would just parry or counter it
a 30 yr old hag and an apprentice ain't shit to Prime Rey and Roger
just what was the thought process behind this thread
-Roger and Rey is several times stronger than zoro atm literally out classes zoro in every aspect
- Bm and Apprentice combo ain't shit
Roger alone would just parry or counter it
a 30 yr old hag and an apprentice ain't shit to Prime Rey and Roger
just what was the thought process behind this thread
he thinks hakai from Non Prime Linlin & Apprentince Kaido will be strong as current hakai and it will take 2 top tiers to block that in order to wank Zoro
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