Powers & Abilities Enma isnt staying

#61
Ndule be like, "Ryou is not Ryou, bitch."

When wano citizens talk about ryuo , they aren't talking about CoA only

Hyou was clear, "ryuo here is what you guys call Haki"

The problem is that you guys translate everything to COa while ryuo that Tengu is talking about is just haki in general at first
Enma can unleash your CoC/CoA
When Zoro gave Enma all of his haki and that's where Enma unleashed his CoC + COa at full effect
He didn't even know he had CoC
 

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#62
When wano citizens talk about ryuo , they aren't talking about CoA only

Hyou was clear, "ryuo here is what you guys call Haki"

The problem is that you guys translate everything to COa while ryuo that Tengu is talking about is just haki in general at first
Enma can unleash your CoC/CoA
When Zoro gave Enma all of his haki and that's where Enma unleashed his CoC + COa at full effect
He didn't even know he had CoC
So how is Ryou COA when Hyo says it but it is something completely different when Tengu says it? And if Enma can forcibly exude COC, why didn't it do it before Zoro started releasing his haki without restraint?
 
#64
So why he mentions enma (this sword) specifically? Because enma is what makes him capable of using high amounts of haki, including CoC, Oda makes it obvious on the manga, you just don't want to accept.

And no, Zoro can't use adCoC like Luffy because he don't even know he has basic CoC. Enma's magic properties provided this privilege for him, and for limited time, as stated by Zoro's words.
Get back in your cave Sanji Idiot, Your Zoro downplay is not working moron
 
#66
So why he mentions enma (this sword) specifically? Because enma is what makes him capable of using high amounts of haki, including CoC, Oda makes it obvious on the manga, you just don't want to accept.

And no, Zoro can't use adCoC like Luffy because he don't even know he has basic CoC. Enma's magic properties provided this privilege for him, and for limited time, as stated by Zoro's words.
The reason Zoro mentioned enma was because if he runs out of haki and he loses control of enma it will try to force more haki out of Zoro and it could kill him.

Zoro is the one releasing and using large amounts of haki. It's not enma.

Zoro discovered the best way to control enma is for him to release large amounts of his haki.

Enma doesn't release CoC if the user can't control it or lose control of it. It only releases CoA. The manga told us it only releases the user's Ryu or CoA.
Ryu is not CoC or CoO. Ryu is the term Wano citizens use when they are talking about CoA haki.

Zoro's skills with CoC/ACoC has nothing to do with enma. That's why Zoro can use it with all 3 swords at the same time or just 1 sword.



Zoro not knowing he has CoC doesn't mean he couldn't learn to use it later, just like he did. Luffy didn't know CoA haki can be flowed and released from the body. Luffy went from not being able to use flowing haki to using internal destruction haki.

Zoro doesn't have a time limit with CoA/ACoC. The reason he can't use it for long is because he was low on haki at the time. He lost large amounts of haki when he lost control of enma and it released large amounts of his haki. That happened 4 times.

Everytime Zoro lost control of enma it forced out so much of his haki his arm shriveled up. The sword tried to release all of Zoro's haki. The blacksmith told us if he was a normal swordsman his entire body would be husk.


A good example of that is Luffy after he runs out of haki from reaching his G4 time limit.


To put the amount of haki he lost into perspective we just need to look at the amount haki Zoro used from the end of chapter 1033.


Until the beginning of chapter 1035.


As you can see Zoro released large amounts of CoA haki and ACoC haki and caoted all three of his swords with it. Neither his arms nor body shriveled up from releasing those large amounts of haki.

Compare that to Zoro losing control of enma near the end of chapter 1032 where his arm does shrivel up from releasing large amounts of haki.


That means more of Zoro's haki was released in the one scene he lost control of enma then from the time he start using ACoC until he defeated King. He probably defeated King in s few to several minutes from the time he start using ACoC. Remember, he lost control of enma four times. That's four times he lost a large amount of haki.

Zoro has insane amount of haki and there is no time limit.
 
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#68
Stop coping.
Enma unleashes ryuo (haki )
The ryuo here isn't ryuo (coA)

Zoro can't even control basic CoC , Enma is the reason why his haki trails were long and strong

Post where Zoro can use more than 3 min without worrying about Enma
More BS from you.

Zoro can use basic CoC and ACoC. He used basic haki against Kaido. Back then you claim he didn't have it because when you see fodder pass out from it even though Kaido said he used it. Now, since Zoro used ACoC you claim it's the swords power. That's pathetic.

This is just "enma has Oden's haki" BS claim all over again. You was proven wrong then and you're proven wrong now.

Enma isn't releasing Zoro's haki. That only happens when he loses control of enma. Zoro ask himself the best way to handle enma. He discovers it's best for him to release large amounts of haki to control enma. He didn't say anything about allowing enma to release his haki.


Zoro release ACoC and is the reason his haki trails are strong and long. We have never seen enma have any effect on the other swords. If enma was the reason we would only see ACoC coming from enma. Not all 3 swords.

Zoro doesn't have a time limit with CoA/ACoC. The reason he can't use it for long during his battle against King was because he was low on haki at the time. He lost large amounts of haki when he lost control of enma and it released large amounts of his haki. That happened 4 times.

Everytime Zoro lost control of enma it forced out so much of his haki his arm shriveled up. The sword tried to release all of Zoro's haki. The blacksmith told us if he was a normal swordsman his entire body would be husk.


A good example of that is Luffy after he runs out of haki from reaching his G4 time limit.


To put the amount of haki he lost into perspective we just need to look at the amount haki Zoro used from the end of chapter 1033.


Until the beginning of chapter 1035.


As you can see Zoro released large amounts of CoA haki and ACoC haki and caoted all three of his swords with it. Neither his arms nor body shriveled up from releasing those large amounts of haki.

Compare that to Zoro losing control of enma near the end of chapter 1032 where his arm does shrivel up from releasing large amounts of haki.


That means more of Zoro's haki was released in the one scene he lost control of enma then from the time he start using ACoC until he defeated King. He probably defeated King in s few to several minutes from the time he start using ACoC. Remember, he lost control of enma four times. That's four times he lost a large amount of haki.

Zoro has insane amount of haki and there is no time limit.


When wano citizens talk about ryuo , they aren't talking about CoA only

Hyou was clear, "ryuo here is what you guys call Haki"

The problem is that you guys translate everything to COa while ryuo that Tengu is talking about is just haki in general at first
Enma can unleash your CoC/CoA
When Zoro gave Enma all of his haki and that's where Enma unleashed his CoC + COa at full effect
He didn't even know he had CoC
Wrong, Ryu is a term only used to describe CoA haki. It's not used when talking about CoO or CoC. Let's look at manga facts to prove that.

When Asura witnessed Luffy use CoC he didn't call it ryu.

He called it a special trick.

When Hyou witnessed Luffy use CoC he didn't call it ryu.


When Hyou witnessed Luffy use CoO (FS) he didn't call it ryu.


When Luffy tells Hyuo he is trying to release CoA haki from his body. Hyuo tells Luffy haki is a foreign term to him but he describes to Luffy the same type of power Luffy is talking about and how swordsmen use that power.


Next, he gives Luffy a demonstration and Luffy tells him that's what he's talking about.



We can see from the above scenes Luffy is only talking about CoA haki. Not the other types of haki.

Later on in the manga when Hyou is trying to teach Luffy CoA haki. He tells Luffy that Wano calls is Ryu.

The manga even gives us details of how barrier CoA haki and internal destruction CoA haki works.

Ryu is not used for CoO or CoC. Only CoA. There is no scene in the manga will we see a Wano citizen calls CoO or CoC, ryu. That is BS that you made up.

That means when the blacksmith tells us enma forces the user to release large amounts of ryu if they can't control it he's only talking about CoA haki.


No, enma can't release CoC.

Your argument that Zoro can't have ACoC/CoC because he didn't know he had an early it doesn't make any sense. People learn new things all the time. Characters grow stronger in One Piece by learning new power, ability, skill and more. Just like how Luffy didn't have flowing haki earlier and now he does.
 
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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#71
More BS from you.

Zoro can use basic CoC and ACoC. He used basic haki against Kaido. Back then you claim he didn't have it because when you see fodder pass out from it even though Kaido said he used it. Now, since Zoro used ACoC you claim it's the swords power. That's pathetic.

This is just "enma has Oden's haki" BS claim all over again. You was proven wrong then and you're proven wrong now.

Enma isn't releasing Zoro's haki. That only happens when he loses control of enma. Zoro ask himself the best way to handle enma. He discovers it's best for him to release large amounts of haki to control enma. He didn't say anything about allowing enma to release his haki.


Zoro release ACoC and is the reason his haki trails are strong and long. We have never seen enma have any effect on the other swords. If enma was the reason we would only see ACoC coming from enma. Not all 3 swords.

Zoro doesn't have a time limit with CoA/ACoC. The reason he can't use it for long during his battle against King was because he was low on haki at the time. He lost large amounts of haki when he lost control of enma and it released large amounts of his haki. That happened 4 times.

Everytime Zoro lost control of enma it forced out so much of his haki his arm shriveled up. The sword tried to release all of Zoro's haki. The blacksmith told us if he was a normal swordsman his entire body would be husk.


A good example of that is Luffy after he runs out of haki from reaching his G4 time limit.


To put the amount of haki he lost into perspective we just need to look at the amount haki Zoro used from the end of chapter 1033.


Until the beginning of chapter 1035.


As you can see Zoro released large amounts of CoA haki and ACoC haki and caoted all three of his swords with it. Neither his arms nor body shriveled up from releasing those large amounts of haki.

Compare that to Zoro losing control of enma near the end of chapter 1032 where his arm does shrivel up from releasing large amounts of haki.


That means more of Zoro's haki was released in the one scene he lost control of enma then from the time he start using ACoC until he defeated King. He probably defeated King in s few to several minutes from the time he start using ACoC. Remember, he lost control of enma four times. That's four times he lost a large amount of haki.

Zoro has insane amount of haki and there is no time limit.



Wrong, Ryu is a term only used to describe CoA haki. It's not used when talking about CoO or CoC. Let's look at manga facts to prove that.

When Asura witnessed Luffy use CoC he didn't call it ryu.

He called it a special trick.

When Hyou witnessed Luffy use CoC he didn't call it ryu.


When Hyou witnessed Luffy use CoO (FS) he didn't call it ryu.


When Luffy tells Hyuo he is trying to release CoA haki from his body. Hyuo tells Luffy haki is a foreign term to him but he describes to Luffy the same type of power Luffy is talking about and how swordsmen use that power.


Next, he gives Luffy a demonstration and Luffy tells him that's what he's talking about.



We can see from the above scenes Luffy is only talking about CoA haki. Not the other types of haki.

Later on in the manga when Hyou is trying to teach Luffy CoA haki. He tells Luffy that Wano calls is Ryu.

The manga even gives us details of how barrier CoA haki and internal destruction CoA haki works.

Ryu is not used for CoO or CoC. Only CoA. There is no scene in the manga will we see a Wano citizen calls CoO or CoC, ryu. That is BS that you made up.

That means when the blacksmith tells us enma forces the user to release large amounts of ryu if they can't control it he's only talking about CoA haki.


No, enma can't release CoC.

Your argument that Zoro can't have ACoC/CoC because he didn't know he had an early it doesn't make any sense. People learn new things all the time. Characters grow stronger in One Piece by learning new power, ability, skill and more. Just like how Luffy didn't have flowing haki earlier and now he does.
Your posts are great.
Not worth the effort on him.
 
#77
The reason Zoro mentioned enma was because if he runs out of haki and he loses control of enma it will try to force more haki out of Zoro and it could kill him.

Zoro is the one releasing and using large amounts of haki. It's not enma.

Zoro discovered the best way to control enma is for him to release large amounts of his haki.

Enma doesn't release CoC if the user can't control it or lose control of it. It only releases CoA. The manga told us it only releases the user's Ryu or CoA.
Ryu is not CoC or CoO. Ryu is the term Wano citizens use when they are talking about CoA haki.

Zoro's skills with CoC/ACoC has nothing to do with enma. That's why Zoro can use it with all 3 swords at the same time or just 1 sword.



Zoro not knowing he has CoC doesn't mean he couldn't learn to use it later, just like he did. Luffy didn't know CoA haki can be flowed and released from the body. Luffy went from not being able to use flowing haki to using internal destruction haki.

Zoro doesn't have a time limit with CoA/ACoC. The reason he can't use it for long is because he was low on haki at the time. He lost large amounts of haki when he lost control of enma and it released large amounts of his haki. That happened 4 times.

Everytime Zoro lost control of enma it forced out so much of his haki his arm shriveled up. The sword tried to release all of Zoro's haki. The blacksmith told us if he was a normal swordsman his entire body would be husk.


A good example of that is Luffy after he runs out of haki from reaching his G4 time limit.


To put the amount of haki he lost into perspective we just need to look at the amount haki Zoro used from the end of chapter 1033.


Until the beginning of chapter 1035.


As you can see Zoro released large amounts of CoA haki and ACoC haki and caoted all three of his swords with it. Neither his arms nor body shriveled up from releasing those large amounts of haki.

Compare that to Zoro losing control of enma near the end of chapter 1032 where his arm does shrivel up from releasing large amounts of haki.


That means more of Zoro's haki was released in the one scene he lost control of enma then from the time he start using ACoC until he defeated King. He probably defeated King in s few to several minutes from the time he start using ACoC. Remember, he lost control of enma four times. That's four times he lost a large amount of haki.

Zoro has insane amount of haki and there is no time limit.
Did you realise that all that headcanon you say makes enma look like a useless tool that only harms Zoro?

Is that what you mean? Even the others ztards undertand that is enma who unlocked his coc and you still in this pitiful denying.

Because that's the sword which was the catalyst for him unlocking that. Doesn't mean he cannot do that without the sword - ex: Bird Dance.

Zoro ain't the first character to do so - Luffy shaving off his lifespan using G2, Luffy pushing his limits in Marineford, what Kidd and Law are doing right now with their unmastered awakenings.
As i said before, enma unlocks his CoC and he can use however he likes, even with his feet if he wants, my point that he needs enma and enter "king of hell" mode to do it.

That was Oda's way to justify Zoro using adcoc without even knowing basic coc, simple as that.

But sure he will be able to casually use after 1-2 arcs.

Because only Enma exudes COA involuntarily.
Ryou and CoC are completely correlated, confirmed in chapter 1010

 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#79
As i said before, enma unlocks his CoC and he can use however he likes, even with his feet if he wants, my point that he needs enma and enter "king of hell" mode to do it.

That was Oda's way to justify Zoro using adcoc without even knowing basic coc, simple as that.

But sure he will be able to casually use after 1-2 arcs
1. He knows what Conquerors Haki is. Knew it way back in FMI. Him not knowing WHAT HE DID at the Rooftop is different.

2. Enma has only ever been stated to pull out ungodly amounts of CoA. Him letting out CoC along with going all out with CoA is KoH. Luffy learnt it on the rooftop after taking ACoC hit to the balls - to flow CoC like CoA. Zoro experienced the exact same thing after the Thunder Bagua.

3. He can and canonically used CoC at will - switching it on/off pairing it and not pairing it with going all out with CoA and not doing so in chapter 1035. Canon manga > Your headcanon.
 
#80
1. He knows what Conquerors Haki is. Knew it way back in FMI. Him not knowing WHAT HE DID at the Rooftop is different.

2. Enma has only ever been stated to pull out ungodly amounts of CoA. Him letting out CoC along with going all out with CoA is KoH. Luffy learnt it on the rooftop after taking ACoC hit to the balls - to flow CoC like CoA. Zoro experienced the exact same thing after the Thunder Bagua.

3. He can and canonically used CoC at will - switching it on/off pairing it and not pairing it with going all out with CoA and not doing so in chapter 1035. Canon manga > Your headcanon.
We already know he can use it, the question is IF he can use without enma help, we don't have this confirmation and you can't say anything to prove it, actually everything we have in the manga proves that it's all because of enma.
 
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