Character Discussion The fake hero: Monkey D. Luffy

#1
I do not understand why people believe that luffy is a good guy and the marines are evil. Luffy has gone back on his convictions so many times. Luffy said he was never going to run and he ran against katakuri. Luffy said that he was never going to lose and he lost to cracker and kaido.

I do not understand how everyone that allies with luffy in the one piece world looks at him as a messiah. Even kaido was waiting for joyboy which makes luffys accomplishments as a pirate cheap.

Literally I am so tired with luffy being put in a pedestal. It is almost as worse as oda is trying to make yamato a likeable character for me.

What do tou guys think? Do you find it problematic how lyffy a pirate is held in messianic regard by everyone even when he shows dishonorable acts?
 
#4
I do not understand why people believe that luffy is a good guy and the marines are evil. Luffy has gone back on his convictions so many times. Luffy said he was never going to run and he ran against katakuri. Luffy said that he was never going to lose and he lost to cracker and kaido.

I do not understand how everyone that allies with luffy in the one piece world looks at him as a messiah. Even kaido was waiting for joyboy which makes luffys accomplishments as a pirate cheap.

Literally I am so tired with luffy being put in a pedestal. It is almost as worse as oda is trying to make yamato a likeable character for me.

What do tou guys think? Do you find it problematic how lyffy a pirate is held in messianic regard by everyone even when he shows dishonorable acts?
 
#9
I do not understand why people believe that luffy is a good guy and the marines are evil.
morgan,Nezumi,alabasta with crocodile,the attempt murder of iceburg, robins home island,the existence of the buster call,World Noble,akuina willing to kill his men,dressrosa with doffyjust some things thye have done.
Luffy said he was never going to run and he ran against katakuri
so he can come back fight him, he ran because he knew if kept fighting in the condition he was he would be dead.
I do not understand how everyone that allies with luffy in the one piece world looks at him as a messiah.
he put his life on the to help them and are you ignoreing all islands and the millions of people hesaved for their sake.
Even kaido was waiting for joyboy which makes luffys accomplishments as a pirate cheap.
how is kaido having some kind of notion of what joyboy is makes luffys accomplishments as a pirate cheap?
Literally I am so tired with luffy being put in a pedestal.
luffy got here because of his achievments and being a quite different pirate than most pirates, when your a beaken of light in the surrounding darknees your goner be treated differently, people change their minds on luffy because of his action.
Do you find it problematic how lyffy a pirate is held in messianic regard by everyone even when he shows dishonorable acts?
like what? saving islands and saving people.
 
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#10
I do not understand why people believe that luffy is a good guy and the marines are evil. Luffy has gone back on his convictions so many times. Luffy said he was never going to run and he ran against katakuri. Luffy said that he was never going to lose and he lost to cracker and kaido.
First, Luffy lost to Katakuri not Cracker. He beated Cracker with Nami's help.

The problem is Oda saying things and doing others. He fail to show Luffy strong then he has to go back in his words. For some reason he needs Luffy to have drawback in his abilities while villains doesn't and can't power up using their lifespan or any similar drawback.
 
#15
So saying Luffy is not a hero while marines is a "hero" is dumb. What about the marines that kills innocent civilians? LOL.

There are good and bad pirates. Just like there are good and bad marines.
Why are people bringing up Sanji or Zoro in every single thread? It’s a thread about Luffy
:ohreally:
It was supposed to be a reference.
 
#18
I do not understand why people believe that luffy is a good guy and the marines are evil. Luffy has gone back on his convictions so many times. Luffy said he was never going to run and he ran against katakuri. Luffy said that he was never going to lose and he lost to cracker and kaido.

I do not understand how everyone that allies with luffy in the one piece world looks at him as a messiah. Even kaido was waiting for joyboy which makes luffys accomplishments as a pirate cheap.

Literally I am so tired with luffy being put in a pedestal. It is almost as worse as oda is trying to make yamato a likeable character for me.

What do tou guys think? Do you find it problematic how lyffy a pirate is held in messianic regard by everyone even when he shows dishonorable acts?
well the whole set up is about piracy, his ultimate goal doesnt have something to do with good deeds like becoming PK to protect people or the world, its just a selfish personal dream. Luffy being a hero was just extra plot, he is a pirate who have good heart. that ocassionally happens to save someone from abusive persons, call it messiah or chosen one. but the thing is thats how they portray every shonen protagonist.
 
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