Bro thats fine. I'm not even debating that Borsalino is fucked if a Scalpel lands on him. The issue is Borsalino has the reactions to dodge those attacks.

Eitherway, our debate was about GK and KROOM being imbued with Haki which has neither reasoning nor basis. Kizaru can comfortably no sell those.
I’m saying if he can imbue mes with haki there’s no reason to believe he can’t do the same with his other abilities
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
I’m saying if he can imbue mes with haki there’s no reason to believe he can’t do the same with his other abilities
Firstly, where has he imbued MES with haki though? His scalpel cuts work regardless of logia intangibility.

That doesn't equate to elemental attacks like Gamma Knife or Counter Shock being imbued with Haki. Law can use COA hardening and yet we didnt see him imbue haki onto those. Same goes for KROOM.
 
Mes doesn’t use haki.

Even if your heart is made of smoke Law can just take it out and section it off.
no thats not how that works. law can only use his normal room and scalpel abilities on you if hes using haki. thats why vergo thought law couldnt beat him and why law did beat him (because it was the culmination of a bunch of law's planning and the peak of his willpower at that time)
 
Firstly, where has he imbued MES with haki though? His scalpel cuts work regardless of logia intangibility.

That doesn't equate to elemental attacks like Gamma Knife or Counter Shock being imbued with Haki. Law can use COA hardening and yet we didnt see him imbue haki onto those. Same goes for KROOM.
Again, it’s a physical cut. If Smoker is made of smoke law needs to coat his physical attacks in haki to be able to touch a logia

also please let’s not use the hardening stuff when Oda had been very inconsistent with it back then
Post automatically merged:

Mes doesn’t use haki.

Even if your heart is made of smoke Law can just take it out and section it off.
If it’s a physical cut by all logic it needs to haki to cut logias
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Again, it’s a physical cut. If Smoker is made of smoke law needs to coat his physical attacks in haki to be able to touch a logia

also please let’s not use the hardening stuff when Oda had been very inconsistent with it back then
It isn't a physical cut, its a DF ability. What kind of a physical cut makes a cube shaped hole in someone's body and takes their heart out alive?
 
no thats not how that works. law can only use his normal room and scalpel abilities on you if hes using haki. thats why vergo thought law couldnt beat him and why law did beat him (because it was the culmination of a bunch of law's planning and the peak of his willpower at that time)
Yeah Doffy had every intel of Law's df, yet somehow he was sure his haki would block Law's cutting ability, but somehow couldn't

Law's haki was stronger than Vergo's, no other explanation as to why Doffy was wrong therefore his attacks can have haki, invisible or not
 
Firstly, where has he imbued MES with haki though? His scalpel cuts work regardless of logia intangibility.

That doesn't equate to elemental attacks like Gamma Knife or Counter Shock being imbued with Haki. Law can use COA hardening and yet we didnt see him imbue haki onto those. Same goes for KROOM.
We know Law uses haki against Vergo but it isn't show as hardening so there's no real telling when he does or doesn't use haki with his moves.
 
It isn't a physical cut, its a DF ability. What kind of a physical cut makes a cube shaped hole in someone's body and takes their heart out alive?
Isnt it a combination?

Vergo cladded his body with Haki against Law's, who implies his haki was weak shit to his.

Then Law even says in the rooftop that he can't Shambles Kaido/BM because their Haki is too strong.

Doesn't that imply you need Haki on top of the DF power?
 
Top