[FNZ] Super Role Madness Season Finale - The Last Weeb

[MangoSenpai]

Ngl, Odd here has a point. Xlaw was literally pounced on for being quite inconsistent here and wasn't given much leeway.

Extending extra courtesy to another player for putting up a similar act would be unfair.

I gave Xlaw several chances to explain himself , but he kept changing his story

So saying I didn't give him any leeway would be a false statement.

I can't speak for others though



So you're basically saying we shouldn't learn from our mistakes?

 

[oddoddfruit]

I gave Xlaw several chances to explain himself , but he kept changing his story

So saying I didn't give him any leeway would be a false statement.

I can't speak for others though



So you're basically saying we shouldn't learn from our mistakes?

I don't buy this post, so scummy

 

[oddoddfruit]

You're the mistake

 

[Ultra]

Rej entered now, but when I made that post it was Cinera (who didn't say anything), Ratchet, Nana abd Ryu Kishi.

The only plausible reason why the hammer happened was because whoever did it knew Xlaw's passive.
But the entire situation was something Xlaw created himself.

I'd like you to think out loud how you make sense of the hammer in any scenario

Well first and foremost, why do you think the hammer wasn't to save Nana? Secondly, if it wasn't, why does that exonerate her? At best if you don't think it was explicitly scum/her team's doing then it just means it had nothing to do with her. Not that she's town.

 

[Ultra]

Objectively when you break it down, it doesn't look good:
- Said she was lynch immune and had us form a plan around it.
- Apparently tanked a super kill and a role crush before the kill was initiated.
- Then said that she lied about being lynch immune because she didn't want to get lynched.

If Xlaw was lynched because his story wasn't adding up, or he was just adding new elements to it, then Nana is no different here.

I don't think anyone else would have been given the benefit of the doubt here with this. However, while I was talking to her in the Noah's chat I told you about, she came off kinda genuine to me. Well, she mainly spoke emotionally about it and said that she just wants to have fun, and will help find orange peel cause she can flavor check and stuff.

So the caveat for me with this is my objective and subjective view points contradicting. With the lynch votes mainly being on her right now, I believe only a very strong case on another player to sway it, because as it stands, I prefer moving on with my objective view point.

I see. I felt similarly about Xlaw. I guess my question would be what about her behavior makes her lean town. Because her trying to claw out of any sort of danger and appease and explain herself behind closed doors does not immediately strike me as townie. That she's offering you a carrot on a stick that she can find Mr. Orange sounds like she's bartering for more time.

Townies are often motivated by wanting to live but we also have a treestump mechanic in this game which would allow her to post after death so I'm less sympathetic to blatant attempts at self preservation like this.

That being said, if she's town, I don't really care much for punishing her or w/e. But I think a good case needs to be made for her, you can't just hand waive this shit.

 

[MangoSenpai]

Well first and foremost, why do you think the hammer wasn't to save Nana? Secondly, if it wasn't, why does that exonerate her? At best if you don't think it was explicitly scum/her team's doing then it just means it had nothing to do with her. Not that she's town.

Because if it was to save nana it would've meant that they knew about Xlaw's passive, else it would've made no sense that they hammered on a vote majority on Nana.



I don't know

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

i would of liked if nana tried to solve xlaw during the day more and maybe help us move to someone else if she is town

i completely forgot about the rolecrush part. so u ate a rolecrush and superkill and none is claiming protecting u :/

odds too stacked against ur favor xd

 

[Ultra]

Because if it was to save nana it would've meant that they knew about Xlaw's passive, else it would've made no sense that they hammered on a vote majority on Nana.



I don't know

Didn't Xlaw state his passive in the thread? Pretty certain he did.

 

[MangoSenpai]

i would of liked if nana tried to solve xlaw during the day more and maybe help us move to someone else if she is town

i completely forgot about the rolecrush part. so u ate a rolecrush and superkill and none is claiming protecting u :/

odds too stacked against ur favor xd

She claimed to have been RC'd and tanked a SK?

 

[MangoSenpai]

Didn't Xlaw state his passive in the thread? Pretty certain he did.

if he did I must've missed it

 

[Ultra]

I'm Jimmy Neutron
I've passive of live with 3 votes on me per phase.
I have ability to Role block
Ability to power up and power drain
Other ability is related to diving in layer

I've some inventions
I give 1 to Mango sampai which RB their visitor
Second one i gave it today to someone which will help them to find something

However whenever I give item to someone..
Something bad happen to town only
Randomly
Town block
Town vote silence
Town kill

If town kill happen i awaken one useful ability.

I also used competition ability , so I'll win this competition (one shot)

He says it in his claim

 

[Ultra]

Feeling like scums wants situation stay still..Since I've +3 votes on me , they know that I'll get lynched.and don't wanna push other suspect

And here as well

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

mango u r focusing too much on this hammer thing

i still dont know why hammer any of nana/xlaw if they were both town

like thats a waste of a really strong ability

if a townie hammered that they need to claim with reasoning to justify ending the day discussion for everyone

and if a townie protected nana. they need to claim and give us full reasoning for protecting her out of everyone else

 

[MangoSenpai]

And here as well

Yeah I hadn't seen this, since that info was in the open I don't think Nana looks much better.

Nana will probably take up a lot of our attention if she's let to live after all this, so I guess it's just fine to go with it.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

She claimed to have been RC'd and tanked a SK?

she never claimed but someone claimed rcing her b4 the superkill

 

[MangoSenpai]

mango u r focusing too much on this hammer thing

i still dont know why hammer any of nana/xlaw if they were both town

like thats a waste of a really strong ability

if a townie hammered that they need to claim with reasoning to justify ending the day discussion for everyone

and if a townie protected nana. they need to claim and give us full reasoning for protecting her out of everyone else

What do you want me to focus on then?

It's quite an important piece of info. I'm just trying to piece together what might've happened, yet here you are trying to tell me that the hammer isn't important?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

What do you want me to focus on then?

It's quite an important piece of info. I'm just trying to piece together what might've happened, yet here you are trying to tell me that the hammer isn't important?

i think trying to justify her being town by using the hammer as a reasoning is pretty wacky when we have no indication as to where the hammer came from. could be maf vs maf for all we know

 

[MangoSenpai]

she never claimed but someone claimed rcing her b4 the superkill

I'm guessing she didn't say anything about any items either?

idk, at this point it's hard for me to justify lynching outside of nana

 

[MangoSenpai]

i think trying to justify her being town by using the hammer as a reasoning is pretty wacky when we have no indication as to where the hammer came from. could be maf vs maf for all we know

huh?

How could it be maf v maf if Xlaw flipped town?

 

[MangoSenpai]

Are you sure you're town Ekko?