Break Week How likely is ZKK at this point in time?

[Fujishiro]

Zoro seems to not be able to move due to his body breaking apart. Plus he is falling somewhere.

For ZKK to happen the following things needs to happen:

Zoro needs to be saved by marco from falling and he needs to heal his body together with chopper.

Zoro needs someone that carries him back up there to kaido, someone like marco or momo for example.

He has the AP needed to kill kaido with his new unlocked power. Its only his body that hinders him.

Maybe due to strong will none of these things will happen and he will move with his broken body just like when he did against kaido and scarred him.

Imo the chance of ZKK happening is about 70ish%.

Any thoughts?

I love your set man.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

Bro the whole point I was making was that ZKK basically rides on "statements" made from Zoro from before the rooftop, so isn't that a little hypocritical?

Luffy hasn't said he was "beating" BM since before he started fighting Kaido. Kid "changed" his goals to BM after the rooftop.

Why is this so hard to understand lol. Zoro "changed" his goal from Kaido to King already, like Kid. Like Killer. Like Law. Like Luffy. He now can't move at all.

Yes zoro changed his goal but he is free to change it back to zkk if needed if luffy fails etc which ultimately he will because kaido is a awakened user

 

[Paperchampion23]

ODA "changed" their goal. So why is it so hard to think that Oda might change Zoro's goal to ZKK again? It's not the end of the arc. Oda is willing to change all these pieces around so that it can fit his story. So saying it's 0% chance of happening is dumb. Why are you acting so certain that it won't happen?
He couldn't move after rooftop. Oda invented the whole asspull medicine to bring him up. And you are now acting like he can't pull any other asspulls if he wants.

Lol. I'm "certain" it's not going to happen because nothing has alluded to it happening since before 1000. Everything Zoro did against Kaido already happened. He fought him and he hurt him.

It was obvious he would recover. I and thousands of other people called it. It was clear he and Sanji would fight the calamities. Just like it was clear Luffy would fight Kaido.

This isn't complicated. It's been made complicated.

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Yes zoro changed his goal but he is free to change it back to zkk if needed if luffy fails etc which ultimately he will because kaido is a awakened user

Ok, continue to hope for that then I guess lol

 

[Seatonnes]

Yes zoro changed his goal but he is free to change it back to zkk if needed if luffy fails etc which ultimately he will because kaido is a awakened user

there is 0 indication of an awakening zoro is fodder compared to kaido

 

[zzShinichi]

Lol. I'm "certain" it's not going to happen because nothing has alluded to it happening since before 1000. Everything Zoro did against Kaido already happened. He fought him and he hurt him.

It was obvious he would recover. I and thousands of other people called it. It was clear he and Sanji would fight the calamities. Just like it was clear Luffy would fight Kaido.

This isn't complicated. It's been made complicated.

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Ok, continue to hope for that then I guess lol

But was it clear that Kid/Law will beat Big Mom? It's Oda's story, he will make those changes if it's neccessary. You are not Oda. You don't write his story. Stop acting all smug and cocky and claims something to be impossible.

 

[Seatonnes]

If zoro is gonna kill kaido explain this then

Spoiler

 

[SkySanji]

We don't know what Oda is gonna do. Oda is willing to circumvent all the Luffy's plot with Big Mom for Kid/Law to be the one who beat her, Oda is willing to circumvent Kid's plot with Kaido
Who's to say that he won't find a way to circumvent Zoro's plot with Kaido? Why are you acting so certain that it won't happen? Just because Zoro can't overshadow Luffy? How about the fact that he did overshadow him in Thriller Bark? Or how about the fact that techinically it was Law and Kid who BEAT a Yonko first?
Luffy is gonna defeat Kaido, i'm not doubting that. But capping what Zoro will do because of Luffy is dumb af. It's Oda, and he loves Zoro. If he wants, he will make it happen, no matter what the characters' previous statements were

Oda didn't circumvent Luffy's plot regarding Big Mom at all

Luffy said he'd defeat her after he beats Kaido, and Big Mom's still alive so her being defeated by Kidd and Law means nothing, Oda could still have Luffy beat her and fulfill what he said.

 

[Paperchampion23]

But was it clear that Kid/Law will beat Big Mom? It's Oda's story, he will make those changes if it's neccessary. You are not Oda. You don't write his story. Stop acting all smug and cocky and claims something to be impossible.

Yes, it was clear from the moment they left the rooftop and Kid attacked her in 1013. It was clear the matchup was set.

My god guys, I'm not trying to act a smug prick. I'm pointing out the obvious because shit has been clouding this forums judgement for years now. This series is BUILT on the precedent of matchups always ending up in the good guys favor, especially if the villain is meant to go down in said arc.

I could show you comments where I didn't believe CP-0 wasn't being taken out by Apoo/Drake for the exact opposite reasons.

IF Oda made it clear Zoro had the intent for Zoro to want to kill Kaido after the rooftop, I would be right there with all of you believing in it. Except he hasn't and it has not been set up since.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

there is 0 indication of an awakening zoro is fodder compared to kaido

Lol if u think some jailers are awakened but not the wsc then that’s on u 😂😂😂

 

[zzShinichi]

Oda didn't circumvent Luffy's plot regarding Big Mom at all

Luffy said he'd defeat her after he beats Kaido, and Big Mom's still alive so her being defeated by Kidd and Law means nothing, Oda could still have Luffy beat her and fulfill what he said.

That could be the possibility, true.

Yes, it was clear from the moment they left the rooftop and Kid attacked her in 1013. It was clear the matchup was set.

My god guys, I'm not trying to act a smug prick. I'm pointing out the obvious because shit has been clouding this forums judgement for years now. This series is BUILT on the precedent of matchups always ending up in the good guys favor, especially if the villain is meant to go down in said arc.

I could show you comments where I didn't believe CP-0 wasn't being taken out by Apoo/Drake for the exact opposite reasons.

IF Oda made it clear Zoro had the intent for Zoro to want to kill Kaido after the rooftop, I would be right there with all of you believing in it. Except he hasn't and it has not been set up since.

Then what was the set up for Kid/Law vs Big Mom? Was it on a whimp, a sudden change of heart for Kid to want to go for Big Mom? Why does everything need a set up? Half of the match ups in Wano happened without a set up, without a CLEAR intention from Oda beforehand.
Did Oda set up before hand Zoro's "Nothing Happened" moment? Did anyone actually think there was gonna be such a moment for Zoro after Luffy has beaten Moria?

 

[Paperchampion23]

That could be the possibility, true.

Then what was the set up for Kid/Law vs Big Mom? Was it on a whimp, a sudden change of heart for Kid to want to go for Big Mom? Why does everything need a set up? Half of the match ups in Wano happened without a set up, without a CLEAR intention from Oda beforehand.
Did Oda set up before hand Zoro's "Nothing Happened" moment? Did anyone actually think there was gonna be such a moment for Zoro after Luffy has beaten Moria?

The difference is, NOBODY expected those moments lmao. You guys are HOPING for something you THINK is "obvious" in the end. That's the difference.

When things happen, they are very clear in this series. What is "clear" is Luffy told Zoro to go down, Zoro changed his goals from Kaido to King, Luffy said he'd win 3 times already, and Zoro already healed once and was told there would be consequences.

Now the argument is the grim reaper has everything to do with ZKK.

I say 0% because I don't believe it's happening lol. No need to get offended as to why I believe that.

 

[zzShinichi]

The difference is, NOBODY expected those moments lmao. You guys are HOPING for something you THINK is "obvious" in the end. That's the difference.

When things happen, they are very clear in this series. What is "clear" is Luffy told Zoro to go down, Zoro changed his goals from Kaido to King, Luffy said he'd win 3 times already, and Zoro already healed once and was told there would be consequences.

Now the argument is the grim reaper has everything to do with ZKK.

I say 0% because I don't believe it's happening lol. No need to get offended as to why I believe that.

There's a difference between you don't believe it happen and claiming that there's 0% chance it happening. I'm just pointing out your smug ass claiming that it's impossible based on the story when Oda is known to pull unexpected, not-set-up-before-hand like the "Nothing happened" moment.

 

[Goodman Grey]

I vote 100% on the raid failing.

 

[VinsmokeSanji]

at the near end of wano

 

[TheSufferingGob]

I still think its happening and at this point ive set a challenge for myself if it happens I draw a one-piece style color spread wanking Zoro and if it fails I do the same but with sanji wank

 

[Paperchampion23]

There's a difference between you don't believe it happen and claiming that there's 0% chance it happening. I'm just pointing out your smug ass claiming that it's impossible based on the story when Oda is known to pull unexpected, not-set-up-before-hand like the "Nothing happened" moment.

Ok fine, 10% lol. Make you feel better? You voted 90% because you "expect" it to happen lol, but it's apparently "unexpected". Interesting.

 

[Kishido]

Likely

 

[Ven437]

The only way ZKK is even a thought in Oda’s mind at this point is if BM consumes Zoro’s soul and fuses with him.

Which I wouldn’t put past him at this point.

 

[Mr.9000]

Lol by the end of wano us 16 will be legends for saying 100%

cant wait

If someone that doesnt really care, would probably have it 50/50, but the real ones know its happening. Time to get rich boys :cheers:

 

[Akai2]

Even though ZKK will not happen, I'm starting to hope it does. Some of my friends only read OP cause of ZKK