What's the gorosei shitting themselves about?


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Or Oda does the reverse Karp theory where instead of a Karp constantly moving up stream and becoming a dragon, Kaido is going to be thrown to the bottom of the waterfall and fall in and because he’ll be completely submerged will not be able to move (like Jack was) but because he’s a fish fish fruit he’ll live at the bottom of that waterfall
good idea....:cheers:
 

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Maybe the panels will show differently but it still feels like Kaido isn’t being pushed to his very limit. It’s really going to take Luffy’s awakening which the Gorosei are shitting their pants about to tip things in Luffy’s favour.
Ngl. If Luffy's awakening is what they are shitting their pants about then it has to be something about reality warping/atmosphere warping. It can't be some simple shit like Luffy rubbering shit and etc.
 
And when has death ever been Oda's resolution to the fucked up things he's had villains do in the series?

You think Neptune doesn't wish to see Hordy dead for killing Otohime?

You think Riku, Kyros Rebecca and Viola don't want to see Diamante dead for killing Scarlett?

Oda literally had the man whose wife was killed by Diamante fight in a battle on Dressrosa, and he still didn't have him kill him.

Oda literally has Neptune have the man who killed his wife locked up in a cell on Fishman Island, and still didn't have him kill him.

Arlong killed Nami's adoptive mother. Where is Arlong? Is he dead? Nami and Nojiko could have easily finished him off when Luffy defeated him, but did Oda have them do that?

So many villains have done so many fucked up things in the series, and a few worse than what Kaido has done, and Oda has never killed off a single one of them.
The reason Kaido is different is because death is a major theme for him and for Wano in general.
 
How?? Doffy caused a massacre and blamed it on the old monarchy then he enslaved a group of tontattas, made loved ones completely forget the existence of people they cared for while those forgotten need to just watch while also being enslaved, and when he was failing was going to kill everyone in the entire country.

But Kaido just being drunk and doing nothing is worse.
kaido killed 4 islands worth of people and put them into slave camps, starved the rest, mutated them by force, etc. orochi didnt do anything without kaidos authority. and now that kaido got a little pussy now that big mom showed up hes going to kill the rest of the people in the country by dropping an island on them
 

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I think they are not shitting about Luffy awakening....past experiences let me not put 100% trust on 5ch Q & A......
It doesn't matter much if Korean frauds leave things ambiguous prior to release or not. I would totally agree with you if not for that Who's Who chapter. Luffy's fruit was interesting prior to that chapter and we always had this "I wonder if there is something more behind Shanks having Gomu at that time" and then boom you have this again brought up.

It's over. Luffy's fruit is not just simple Rubber Rubber fruit.
 
The reason Kaido is different is because death is a major theme for him and for Wano in general.
Death is not really a "theme" in Wano. It's Oda trying to stress the emphasis that going up against the Yonko's, there is a real threat that people could die. He drove that point home in WCI as well. The threat of death is built up on the protagonist side, not the antagonists side.
 
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Zoro and Sanji murdered King and Queen, they can't comeback anyway, thats the point

CP-0 defeated Drake, but they aren't that strong to knock him out for good without a chance of getting back up

The fact that he got back up and might defeat the other CP-0 actually shows that he might be on the same level as Izo or close, a high Veteran level most likely
Nobody was mudered in this raid.

So you are implying that X-Drake got defeat in a 1v2 because Apoo ran away and now he has change to beat CP-0 Leader in a 1v1?
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Yeah, so Zoro did nothing. Franky chapter

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But we know he is okay and safe now.
 
If the Gorosei are really talking about Gomu Gomu, yeah not gonna defend OP ever again, even if i am still nostalgic about pre-TS.

I know people will defend that shit (luck is a theme and whatnot) but gtfo, Luffy literally gets everything blown into his ass basically.
It s the gomu fruit
The fac that wg wanted it
The fact that oda wanted to make the fruit be 5b worth
 
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Because it’s a Shonen and all the bad guys henchmen have to get defeated
It's a shonen but the main protagonist gets knocked out and defeated all the time.

It's a shonen but we have villains succeeding such as Teach, Marines etc.

It's a shonen is the worst excuse and argument you can ever use.
 
And it's true. What's a worse punishment for Kaido? Having him to live to suffer over the fact that his ambition and Empire that he has spent over 20+ years building up was ripped out from underneath him over night.... Or kill him, and it won't even matter to his character in the slightest, because he'll be dead. Not even to mention that Kaido wants to die, so it's a win for him if it happens.
not only that he has two dreams after all , a worthy death like Roger, Oden and WB , so if Luffy kills him he will get that,so Luffy will not fulfill that for him, the other dream is being Joyboy and Luffy is Joyboy after all, so indirectly he takes his another dream too.
to be honest if he dies , it will be only by taking his own life since his dream were crushed.
 
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