[FNZ] Role Madness Game 02: The Ascent of the Space Pirates

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Dragomir

It is.


Because my reads are worthless. The most there is present is the fact that Celestia is slightly suspicious, though I am not strongly convinced. That Dragomir is very suspicious more so for the role he took in the game, and should be vetted and watched careful due to that. That Zoro D Goat is likely fooling around and Fuji randomly voted when (correct me if I have the deets in a poor order,) everyone was randomly voting. Entirely likely he was just joining the crowd, or otherwise instructed by Mafia.

All in all—I feel nothing when it comes to the players so far. Drag is the most suspicious but I don't think voting him is necessarily intelligent.
Is this supposed to be your reason why?
 

TheAncientCenturion

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This feels like buddying Denim

I did not say anything about thinking Kiwi is scum, how did you come to that conclusion and see it as such, that's very interesting. It feels like you are set on Kiwi for some reason since you singled her out from my post.
I'm not set on anything. This is the first time I've aired any suspicion on Kiwi.
Is this supposed to be your reason why?
Why what? Being relatively quiet. Yeah. I don't think being loud when others are loud enough will do much for us. Though, I've since redacted my suspicions of you, thinking over the last day. Your reactions wouldn't align with someone too worried over being caught, a sort of innocent confidence.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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My full statement lol. It got a little cut off in the post above.
This feels like buddying Denim

I did not say anything about thinking Kiwi is scum, how did you come to that conclusion and see it as such, that's very interesting. It feels like you are set on Kiwi for some reason since you singled her out from my post.
I'm not set on anything. This is the first time I've aired any suspicion on Kiwi. Though it does seem off, Rej votes her and dies. Could be unrelated, but something to keep in mind.
 
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Dragomir

what looks to me now
Drago is sus with him trying to manipulate stuff lowkey going on and trying to educate others mid game
Such an insincere read you got here. You know I always try to take charge in games. This "manipulative" crap is straight bulljive. It makes sense coming from these guys but not you. Definitely not you.
when I reread some stuff from day 1 I am leaning more on drago being scum , he knows that I am experienced so he choose to focus on me cuz he will feel comfortable in manipulating the town against me
The evidence for how this is the case is... non-existent.
he was at the eod and didn't make any effort while just posting emoji
too much tunneling asking others about their opinions about me only after saying I won't be online and trying to manipulate kiwi giving her unrelated mafia 101
Oh, was I supposed to do something EOD? Too much tunneling? I have every single right to ask other people about you. How else am I supposed to know if people agree on you being scum? How else do I get you lynched? Like this is straight whack. Come on now, Nana. Also, what the hell is this manipulate Kiwi bulljive?
the fact he ain't really considering or giving thoughts about my lynch now after knowing how risky is it for town numbers , he ain't giving two shits about who gets lynched , too much for his town leader bullshit
The hypocrisy here is atrocious. You want accuse me for not giving two shits and not considering your lynch(I ALWAYS do. I don't blind lynch), when you yourself ain't doing the same for me. I vote for you and you immediately omgus in return like it's do or die but want to act like I don't care. Preposterous.
also he just clearing ppl for being town while them not reallly doing anything to confirm them , he seem to sugarcoat kiwi and tac this is beyond me how I am the one who is being sused while he is getting a free pass
Bruh what? Where are these lies coming from? Who have I cleared as town? All I said was that a couple folks were town to me. That's an opinion I stated. Ain't no way did I say "he's confirmed town". Also, how do I prove their innocence? It was day 1. No info day. Only way is if I was day 0 cop which I'm not.

This entire case sounds like you just thought it up to take advantage of how ppl think I'm manipulative and try adding baseless reasoning to make it strong while actually doing the reverse. Come on now.
I am laying low ??? excuse me u say that with your 5 posts and 1 liner posts , where did u see me getting low
if me who interacted with everyone in the game is accused of staying low what can we call u and others

and mafia isn't more about who is aggressive , it's about good reads and making cases on others
Holy God, never seen such aggressive deflection in my life.
This feels like buddying Denim
No it's not.
 
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Dragomir

I'm not set on anything. This is the first time I've aired any suspicion on Kiwi.

Why what? Being relatively quiet. Yeah. I don't think being loud when others are loud enough will do much for us. Though, I've since redacted my suspicions of you, thinking over the last day. Your reactions wouldn't align with someone too worried over being caught, a sort of innocent confidence.
The why was put there accidentally. Have you accumulated any scum reads?
 
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Dragomir

I honestly didn't believe my eyes when I saw Fuji flipped town. I would have voted for him last phase, his behavior was so suspicious and I need to look closer at players because I thought he was definitely a scum.

Rej got killed last night, the only interaction I see of him was with Denim, voting him then unvoting him.
Denim, I am still unsure on him.

This is something interesting to keep in mind, the track of votes:

Rej (town) voted for Kiwi, Kiwi voted for Fuji (town), but I think Kiwi was confused the same way about Fuji so I understand that.
NW voted for Denim and this phase he considers him town. Why such a sudden change in opinion, going from voting for him to today thinking he is town. What changed?
TAC is saying Denim is definitely town, how do you know that?

I am thinking and liking Reborn's approach, he is very active and asks questions and gets people to discuss. Here is a good example:
Why did Fuji's one post the entire day set you off so hard that it made him think he was so suspicious.
 
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Celestia

Such an insincere read you got here. You know I always try to take charge in games. This "manipulative" crap is straight bulljive. It makes sense coming from these guys but not you. Definitely not you.

The evidence for how this is the case is... non-existent.

Oh, was I supposed to do something EOD? Too much tunneling? I have every single right to ask other people about you. How else am I supposed to know if people agree on you being scum? How else do I get you lynched? Like this is straight whack. Come on now, Nana. Also, what the hell is this manipulate Kiwi bulljive?

The hypocrisy here is atrocious. You want accuse me for not giving two shits and not considering your lynch(I ALWAYS do. I don't blind lynch), when you yourself ain't doing the same for me. I vote for you and you immediately omgus in return like it's do or die but want to act like I don't care. Preposterous.

Bruh what? Where are these lies coming from? Who have I cleared as town? All I said was that a couple folks were town to me. That's an opinion I stated. Ain't no way did I say "he's confirmed town". Also, how do I prove their innocence? It was day 1. No info day. Only way is if I was day 0 cop which I'm not.

This entire case sounds like you just thought it up to take advantage of how ppl think I'm manipulative and try adding baseless reasoning to make it strong while actually doing the reverse. Come on now.

Holy God, never seen such aggressive deflection in my life.

No it's not.
It's different cuz ppl here aren't as much adjusted to pplaying u declaring u wanna be a town leader all that look like powerwolfing to me

Do I need to quote u where u were like "yea I agree with u but how about celestia" it seems like u are just trying to get them on your side

And your reasons why i am scum are absolutely weak , if i didn't wanna rush in voting then that make me scum ? Game legit was slow I wanted to see more of it

This ain't omgus , is that he only way to defend yourself now from what I said ?

And why are u bringing my reply to him
Lmao he just thought of something too random and inaccurate so ofc I will call him out for his bs
 
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Dragomir

It's different cuz ppl here aren't as much adjusted to pplaying u declaring u wanna be a town leader all that look like powerwolfing to me

Do I need to quote u where u were like "yea I agree with u but how about celestia" it seems like u are just trying to get them on your side

And your reasons why i am scum are absolutely weak , if i didn't wanna rush in voting then that make me scum ? Game legit was slow I wanted to see more of it

This ain't omgus , is that he only way to defend yourself now from what I said ?

And why are u bringing my reply to him
Lmao he just thought of something too random and inaccurate so ofc I will call him out for his bs
Does it mattet? Am I supposed to change my playstyle cause the ppl are different?

Ok lol.

You completely misread what I said. You literally tried to accuse me for trying to lynch you without considering anything. I called you out for you hypocrisy cause you are doing the same thing. Ain't nothing weak about that.

If it's not omgus, what is it? Yes omgus is the basic premise of my counter against you but I've explicitly broke each part of your post and exposed you. You cannot try to just dub it as "omgus".

Cause that reply was atrocious.
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
I'll be honest, I don't think Celestia was being very shifty about her opinions. And the points she mentioned here are all pretty valid:

when I reread some stuff from day 1 I am leaning more on drago being scum , he knows that I am experienced so he choose to focus on me cuz he will feel comfortable in manipulating the town against me :lusalty:

his logic on why I am scum don't make much sense lmao salad and shits plz no one really voted at that point and he is just basing his case on that one

he was at the eod and didn't make any effort while just posting emoji
too much tunneling asking others about their opinions about me only after saying I won't be online and trying to manipulate kiwi giving her unrelated mafia 101

the fact he ain't really considering or giving thoughts about my lynch now after knowing how risky is it for town numbers , he ain't giving two shits about who gets lynched , too much for his town leader bullshit

also he just clearing ppl for being town while them not reallly doing anything to confirm them , he seem to sugarcoat kiwi and tac this is beyond me how I am the one who is being sused while he is getting a free pass

Vote Lynch Denim
I have no idea what salad is but yes, I do see what she is saying about @Denim feeling like he is manipulating the newbies and the "sugarcoating" part. I don't think it's a reach.

I'm still having difficulty accepting Denim's aggressive townleader playstyle, but seeing that the thread is not very active, I do see why he would act this way and he is very open about his actions. This is why I am not very sure about this whole Celestia vs Denim conflict happening right now.

On the other hand, I want to know why @NeutralWatcher you changed your stance from Denim is scum:

Denim seems want to direct people attention for lynching Celestia. That is suspicious imo
to Denim is town and Celestia is scum:

Denim gives me townie vibe. Denim is very aggresive in his stance to lynch Celestia. Celestia seems to lay low to blend with townie.
It seems that you are just agreeing with what the majority is saying
 

TheAncientCenturion

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Drago has been pretty straight with questioning every user and trying to take in opinions. He may be steering the conversation, but he's also been very transparent in doing so. Repeatedly, just wanting information.

He's clean, in my eyes. Neutralwatcher is suspicious though, I don't think I noticed his floppiness. I'd appreciate some background on his views.
 
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Celestia

You completely misread what I said. You literally tried to accuse me for trying to lynch you without considering anything. I called you out for you hypocrisy cause you are doing the same thing. Ain't nothing weak about that.
i actually backed up my lynch with reasons
On why i think u are scum neanwhile on your part u said I am scum cuz I preferred to wait to see more of ppl playing , u continued this day with your tunnel on me without really providing more stuff on why I am a scum to u

Drago has been pretty straight with questioning every user and trying to take in opinions. He may be steering the conversation, but he's also been very transparent in doing so. Repeatedly, just wanting information.

He's clean, in my eyes. Neutralwatcher is suspicious though, I don't think I noticed his floppiness. I'd appreciate some background on his views.
Asking users on a single player if he is scum doesn't mean they are trying to solve the game
It's straight up manipulatiom
 
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Dragomir

I'll be honest, I don't think Celestia was being very shifty about her opinions. And the points she mentioned here are all pretty valid:


I have no idea what salad is but yes, I do see what she is saying about @Denim feeling like he is manipulating the newbies and the "sugarcoating" part. I don't think it's a reach.

I'm still having difficulty accepting Denim's aggressive townleader playstyle, but seeing that the thread is not very active, I do see why he would act this way and he is very open about his actions. This is why I am not very sure about this whole Celestia vs Denim conflict happening right now.

On the other hand, I want to know why @NeutralWatcher you changed your stance from Denim is scum:



to Denim is town and Celestia is scum:



It seems that you are just agreeing with what the majority is saying
Why? How? What have I done to make this thought enter y'all's minds?
 

TheAncientCenturion

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Vote Lynch @NeutralWatcher @Finalbeta

Let's see his reaction. We need to move the game around a bit more, I'm a little uncomfortable with the inactivity.

i actually backed up my lynch with reasons
On why i think u are scum neanwhile on your part u said I am scum cuz I preferred to wait to see more of ppl playing , u continued this day with your tunnel on me without really providing more stuff on why I am a scum to u


Asking users on a single player if he is scum doesn't mean they are trying to solve the game
It's straight up manipulatiom
Because he's not trying to hide what he's doing. Drago is out in the open, blatant as can be, and unless this is 4D Mafia chess (doubtful), he's just barking up the wrong tree with you. He's far too open and inquisitive to be scum, he's encouraging discussion.
 
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Dragomir

What the fuck? Imagine saying that asking players their thought on another player is manipulation. All I'm doing is trying to see if they agree with me or not. Absolutely no where have I tried to dictate what someone should think. I certainly believe that they should think you're scum but I'm not saying they must or anything like that.

To say that I am manipulating anybody is a pure fucking lie. Foh with that nonsense. This pisses me off so much.
 
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Dragomir

i actually backed up my lynch with reasons
On why i think u are scum neanwhile on your part u said I am scum cuz I preferred to wait to see more of ppl playing , u continued this day with your tunnel on me without really providing more stuff on why I am a scum to u


Asking users on a single player if he is scum doesn't mean they are trying to solve the game
It's straight up manipulatiom
O saw those reasons. Guess what I did to them? Absolutely exposed them for the insincere bullshit that they are. No hard feelings.

Do I need to? I consider this back n forth between us to be enough. I need no further reasons if someone can just notice the hypocrisy and lies you have been telling.
 
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