Questions & Mysteries Will Oda ever give us a direct answer for Zoro vs Law?

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I don't think we will ever get a Zoro vs. Law fight

But I really hate the way people's arguments are too simple: it's either they say Zoro is stronger because Law is a fellow swordsman or they say Law is stronger because he helped defeat a Yonko...both of those arguments have heavy flaws

1. Law's main skill isn't swordsmanship, his sword is just a tool through which to amplify his devil fruit abilities. Law is someone who really blurs the line of what it means to be a swordsman and who is included under the title of WSS

2. Even though Law had a hand in defeating BM, he has no real 1v1 feats outside of Vergo to actually give him credit for things he did entirely by himself. Every time I see someone bringing up the rooftop fight as a way to praise Zoro, one of the FIRST things you hear in rebuttal is that it was a group fight. Well, guess what? Law and Kid vs. BM was a group fight. Ya can't change the goal-posts like that and try to pick and choose what counts and what doesn't count. 'Cuz all I'm saying is, we saw how things went down when Zoro and Law got their chances against the same opponent for the first time.

however we became aware that law and kidd held back powers on the rooftop they already had while luffy and zoro went all out.
no doubt the portrayal those two gain from defeating a yonko in a 2v 1 individually is certainly still above beating a right hand 1v1
emphasis on their victory confirms it .

based on feats against big mom
and the portrayal law has/should receive from this victory
rn he is stronger.

 

[Rivaille]

We already have the answer: Zoro is and will be stronger than Law.

Especially because as much as people want to deny it, Law is a swordsman and Zoro will be without a doubt the strongest that ever existed.

 

[[No Name]]

Already did.
One defeated a Yonko, the other Is sleeping after fought a mere commander after he received an haki pu.
Do your maths.

 

[zzShinichi]

Law is stronger than ZOro right now but Zoro will outgrow him imo
A fight between them will end in no less an extreme diff fight for both side

 

[HA001]

Yeah, this is also a debate here. Especially after Law's awakening was fully fleshed out against Linlin.

I think it's bound to happen that Zoro (potentially Sanji too) surpass Law/Kidd. I'm not sure they'll retain the same level of relevance now in a hundred chapters. Hell, Law went from arguably the second most important character in two arcs to slumming it with Zoro/Sanji in terms of screen time in Wano.

So my opinion is, it's inevitable that they'll fall behind because they aren't the MCs crew. Currently Law is stronger than Zoro and I have zero doubt he'd beat him in a fight, but Zoro has many more opportunities to grow stronger as well.

Nothing law did translates to being stronger than zoro 1 vs 1
There's a reason he only had sneak attacks and team attacks since vergo

 

[Fujishiro]

We already have the answer: Zoro is and will be stronger than Law.

Especially because as much as people want to deny it, Law is a swordsman and Zoro will be without a doubt the strongest that ever existed.

Zoro will be stronger but nothing says he has to be stronger than every swordsman in existence right now.

 

[Rivaille]

Zoro will be stronger but nothing says he has to be stronger than every swordsman in existence right now.

Which is why I used the word « will ».

 

[Fujishiro]

Which is why I used the word « will ».

You said ''is'' and ''will''.

 

[Rivaille]

You said ''is'' and ''will''.

The reason why Zoro is actually stronger is not linked to the WSS’s title but to his performance overall in Wano.

 

[Bogard]

Yea i pointed this out before. And the issue is that some people aren't even getting it. For the "Law is a swordsman and thus it's proof he'd end up below WSS Zoro" side, that's not the issue. The issue is Oda actually showing on panel that Zoro is superior to Law in terms of accomplishments, which based on the portrayal thus far is far from guaranteed

If we look at the way they have been portrayed since Punk Hazard in arcs they were involved in, it's indeed questionable

- Beating Vergo and contributing in Doffy's defeat was superior to beating Monet and Pica
- Contributing in beating Big Mom in the one piece world is a better accomplishment than beating King

For the Punk Hazard - Dressrosa saga, there was an excuse that it was Law's introductionary arc and thus had more showings, but the reality is that even in the arc where Zoro is clearly receiving the most focus, Oda still make Law trump Zoro in terms of accomplishment(contributing in beating Big Mom is world wide viewed as a better accomplishment than beating King)

And while Zoro grows in power from his enma+hardening+adcoc training / improvement with fire cutting ability, Law grows in power as well with better room control, need kroom / awakening mode, awakening ultimate attack

With Law also portrayed as one of the rivals to the throne in terms of portrayal, with him having a great impact in Big Mom's defeat

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With the arcs to arcs scaling suggesting he'd continue to grow stronger. Currently for example, Kroom is heavily taxing him, but that stamina tax might end up completely reduced if not removed by the following arc. Not to mention the fact that even post-Wano he potentially has a link with Fujitora / Akainu

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As well as the hints around his fruit being a key to the national treasure of marijoa, with the conflict between Ds and Celestial Dragons, with the top of them being the 5 elders, a fate potentially linking him to the gorosei then

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And thus it begs the question as to how Oda would realistically highlight a superior accomplishment from Zoro placing him above Law by EOS ? Since they are on the same side, they won't fight each other, and even beating Mihawk(the current WSS title holder) may not really prove he can beat Law if Law continues to get comparable if not superior opponents in the final war

Hoping it'd not turn out to be a Shanks vs Mihawk scenario where it's still debated after decades of one piece

 

[Garp the Fist]

No, because Oda likes having his fans talk about things like this.

That’s why he put in the SBS, when flat asked “would Zoro beat Sanji in a fight”, a dick joke.

The two won’t ever fight each other, Law is absolutely not turning on the Strawhats or trying to steal their Poneglyph or anything like that. It’ll always be up to individual reader.

Personally, the fact that Law is one of the few characters who has ever spoken about what actually makes a swordsman (lecturing Tashigi), the fact he uses his sword in the majority of his attacks (all his Awakened ones, I note) and the fact he has a cursed sword (which we’ve learned this arc to use properly needs a swordsman to “master it and bend to his will”), all point to him being a swordsman and de facto weaker than EoS Zoro. And nothing Law (or Kid, which was a big surprise to me) has done this arc has been enough to put them over Zoro, swordsman or not. Swap either of them out with Zoro in the Big Mom fight, he does better than either individually. Can tank as much as Kid, can damage as much as Law.

But no,I don’t think he’ll ever say if I’m right or not. The debate over Law being a swordsman will continue, as will the debate over whether right hand man of the PK and WSS trumps “rival” captain and D. It might be the case that Law simply fades in importance EoS and doesn’t fight anyone relevant again though.

Not just Law, either, although he’s the obvious one being a sworduser, Oda will probably never confirm if Zoro’s stronger than Sabo or Kid. Even Coby or Smoker, if Oda decides to start using them seriously. There will always be this debate over characters tied to Luffy and whether that puts them above Zoro or not, which is what Oda wants.

I also expect the most we’ll ever get out Shanks vs Mihawk to be a Roger/Whitebeard style draw as well.

 

[Fujishiro]

The reason why Zoro is actually stronger is not linked to the WSS’s title but to his performance overall in Wano.

How is his performance better than Laws?

 

[nik87]

While anyone who understands power scaling and storytelling knows that Law cannot hold a candle to Zoro, I am sure anti-Zolobros will never have a clear answer, even if Zoro were to beat Law up on panel.

 

[Human D Luffy]

Law will be the strongest support in OP.
That is about it. His ceiling has a very hard cap.

With zoro you are talking about the only person with 2+ black blades by EOS and unanimously the WSS, surpassing even Mihawk.

It is not even close, law with one of the most OP df will not surpass a DF-less zoro EOS.
Imagine if zoro decides to eat a logia DF
Hack I doubt law can even turn his sword into a black blade

 

[kumae]

Rn between law and kid the only who is above zoro is law,though this could change in the future since zoro will improve his coc and black blades but if law stick with the SHs oda will keep focusing in his abilities but anyways at EOS i could see both at the same tier

 

[nik87]

Rn between law and kid the only who is above zoro is law,though this could change in the future since zoro will improve his coc and black blades but if law stick with the SHs oda will keep focusing in his abilities but anyways at EOS i could see both at the same tier

Why did Law lose to Doffy in 2vs1 with Luffy while Doffy got Admiral to protect him from Zoro?
That guy is above Zoro? Not even close, lol. He literally just reached his peak as high tier.
He is not stronger than Fishman Island Zoro. Getting stronger attacks isnt making him a better fighter.
Law was never above Zoro, at any point in the story. It's rather funny that people think he is above Zoro now, lol...

 

[Gol D. Roger]

We already know the answer.

 

[Bogard]

We already know the answer.

If it was the case, this thread wouldn't exist

 

[Ask D question]

Currently law's portrayal is above zoro's


Law is a yonko of the new generation and zoro is the 2nd strongest 1st commander


But chances are that law's gonna die

I don't think the immortality surgery was introduced for nothing

 

[Gol D. Roger]

If it was the case, this thread wouldn't exist

That's like saying if Luffy is stronger than Zoro, then Zoro vs. Luffy threads wouldn't exist. The logic doesn't quite work and these things always exist as long as people don't stop looking for ways to work around logic.