Questions & Mysteries Will Oda ever give us a direct answer for Zoro vs Law?
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Zoro’s my second favorite character, there’s nothing to be paranoid about. I’m just not going to bullshit my way into spouting fanboy nonsense to make him look better so I can feel better about myself. I actually like Zoro for reason outside of his strength, unlike the fanboys that run rampant on this website.
No I quoted you to call you out on your bs. That's all.
Nobody puts weight into the WSC majority of the fanbase thinks WSM > WSC.
Majority of the fanbase thinks Roger = WB or even >= WB.
Majority of the vocal Zoro fandom on this website thinks Kaidou isn't the strongest character despite his title.
So miss me with your bs soliloquy on how its only the WSS title that gets this treatment.
Nobody puts weight into the WSC majority of the fanbase thinks WSM > WSC.
Majority of the fanbase thinks Roger = WB or even >= WB.
Majority of the vocal Zoro fandom on this website thinks Kaidou isn't the strongest character despite his title.
So miss me with your bs soliloquy on how its only the WSS title that gets this treatment.
The fact this threat even exist or needs to exist shows us the problems we have in the One Piece community. Which are, fans going against manga fact and/or claiming headcannon just to hate on a character.
It's easy to see which one is stronger and destined to be stronger.
One character (Zoro) goal is to become the World's Strongest Swordsman (WSS). On his path to achieve that goal Oda has set up for him to achieve the Pinnacle of swordsmanship, which is the ability to cut anything or nothing. Plus forge a black blade or 3 in Zoro's case. A Black blade is a feat only the WSS of their time has achieved.
The other character (Law) just wants to learn the true history of the world.
Like I said, when compare them it's easy to see who's stronger or will be.
Even if we look at Wano it is easy to see Zoro is stronger than Law. Unfortunately, some only reads some of the facts from their battles while ignoring the rest. In doing so, they create create this false belief that Law is stronger.
IE: They only look at the fact Law won against a Yonko while Zoro won against a YC.
Of course, we know there was so much more to their battles. Law fought Big Mom in a 2v1 battle with Kid. There are benefits to fighting in a group battle you don't have in a solo battle. Together they still weren't strong enough to defeat Big Mom. Their win against Big Mom came from the help of Kaido's bombs that weren't even part of their plan.
Compare that to Zoro who fought and beat King in the solo battle. King has stronger durability and defense than Kaido and Big Mom. Having the power to damage Big Mom doesn't automatically mean you have the power to damage King. Zoro win against King was the result of him being stronger than King and having the power to damage him.
It's easy to see which one is stronger and destined to be stronger.
One character (Zoro) goal is to become the World's Strongest Swordsman (WSS). On his path to achieve that goal Oda has set up for him to achieve the Pinnacle of swordsmanship, which is the ability to cut anything or nothing. Plus forge a black blade or 3 in Zoro's case. A Black blade is a feat only the WSS of their time has achieved.
The other character (Law) just wants to learn the true history of the world.
Like I said, when compare them it's easy to see who's stronger or will be.
Even if we look at Wano it is easy to see Zoro is stronger than Law. Unfortunately, some only reads some of the facts from their battles while ignoring the rest. In doing so, they create create this false belief that Law is stronger.
IE: They only look at the fact Law won against a Yonko while Zoro won against a YC.
Of course, we know there was so much more to their battles. Law fought Big Mom in a 2v1 battle with Kid. There are benefits to fighting in a group battle you don't have in a solo battle. Together they still weren't strong enough to defeat Big Mom. Their win against Big Mom came from the help of Kaido's bombs that weren't even part of their plan.
Compare that to Zoro who fought and beat King in the solo battle. King has stronger durability and defense than Kaido and Big Mom. Having the power to damage Big Mom doesn't automatically mean you have the power to damage King. Zoro win against King was the result of him being stronger than King and having the power to damage him.
Well Oda claimed that Law is a swordsman
Do you expect Oda to look at this fanart that intentionally has 4 literal swordsman in traditional samurai aesthetic and say "No enemies can stop these 3 swordsmen and one surgeon?"
If someone drew King along with 3 other swordsman in Kimonos do you expect Oda not to group them together as swordsman in a passing comment that has nothing to do with his finalized product?
But even ignoring all of this, and lets say yes Law is officially confirmed in verse as a swordsman even though he isn't. It still wouldn't end this debate because as I said
Kaidou being WSC doesn't end any debates, WB being WSM doesn't end the Roger vs WB debate.
That's because portrayal matters. Titles are one piece of the puzzle, they're not worthless but they're not everything. As long as Oda in his mind believes because Law is a purely df based fighter and does not qualify to be boxed into any specific category it will remain a debate. And as long as Oda keeps giving Law bigger accomplishments in verse this is gonna remain a debate.
This is not exclusive to the WSS title. Oda does this intentionally.
At this point you've spent years on WG trying to convince others that Zoro is overrated, that he couldn't even face Kaido, that he couldn't even compete with Law or Kid... I wouldn't be surprised if you even denied his potential as a conqueror. When he faced Kaido you said he couldn't do damage, when he nailed Asura you said that the scar was meaningless. What part of that sounds like you like the character?
So you got emotional okay should've just said that.
YOU don't put any weight, I don't give a shit about that 👍🏾
YOU again think that, and I personally couldn't give a shit 👍🏾
Again YOU don't think he's the strongest creature, Oda disagrees
"Miss me with..." said the mf that that quoted me 🤡🤣. You could've just said you were shitting out your backside and I would've ignored you dumbass
YOU don't put any weight, I don't give a shit about that 👍🏾
YOU again think that, and I personally couldn't give a shit 👍🏾
Again YOU don't think he's the strongest creature, Oda disagrees
"Miss me with..." said the mf that that quoted me 🤡🤣. You could've just said you were shitting out your backside and I would've ignored you dumbass
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Poor argument. There’s only three characters in One Piece who have used a Cursed Sword: Zoro, Oden and Law.
And we learned this arc that to use a cursed sword, it has to be mastered by a swordsman.
Law’s shown zero signs that he struggles to use his sword, meaning that his sword, with it’s own personality, has been mastered by him.
Plus Law, unlike King, is actually someone who has told someone else off on not understanding what it means to be a swordsman, when fighting Tashigi.
And we learned this arc that to use a cursed sword, it has to be mastered by a swordsman.
Law’s shown zero signs that he struggles to use his sword, meaning that his sword, with it’s own personality, has been mastered by him.
Plus Law, unlike King, is actually someone who has told someone else off on not understanding what it means to be a swordsman, when fighting Tashigi.
He hit Kaido with his strongest attack, and Kaido turned his back on him to fight someone that he deemed worthy (it was revealed that he did not think Zoro was worthy in the vivre card). Given that, no, he couldn’t face Kaido straight up, and given that he got dominated for most of the fight (despite being fully healthy) against someone that Law and Kid’s (who were both worn down) opponent would have eviscerated, he can’t compete with them. It’s not a bad thing, as they’re Luffy’s rivals, not his. I’m fine with that. His fanboys aren’t. As far as his CoC, I’ve been adamant that he would get it because Rayleigh had it.
As far as whether or not you think I sound like a fan of Zoro, I really don’t care. I don’t need to justify my liking of him to you or anyone else, nor am I going to waste my time trying on someone who won’t believe me regardless. The original three are my favorite characters in the series, but I’m not going to run around screeching about how they are all better than they are for self validation like Zoro’s fanboys do. I like Zoro for more than just his strength, which allows me to be realistic about him and be satisfied with where he’s at. That’s it.
As far as whether or not you think I sound like a fan of Zoro, I really don’t care. I don’t need to justify my liking of him to you or anyone else, nor am I going to waste my time trying on someone who won’t believe me regardless. The original three are my favorite characters in the series, but I’m not going to run around screeching about how they are all better than they are for self validation like Zoro’s fanboys do. I like Zoro for more than just his strength, which allows me to be realistic about him and be satisfied with where he’s at. That’s it.
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Poor argument. There’s only three characters in One Piece who have used a Cursed Sword: Zoro, Oden and Law.
And we learned this arc that to use a cursed sword, it has to be mastered by a swordsman.
Law’s shown zero signs that he struggles to use his sword, meaning that his sword, with it’s own personality, has been mastered by him.
Plus Law, unlike King, is actually someone who has told someone else off on not understanding what it means to be a swordsman, when fighting Tashigi.
And we learned this arc that to use a cursed sword, it has to be mastered by a swordsman.
Law’s shown zero signs that he struggles to use his sword, meaning that his sword, with it’s own personality, has been mastered by him.
Plus Law, unlike King, is actually someone who has told someone else off on not understanding what it means to be a swordsman, when fighting Tashigi.
Law having a cursed sword > King not having one.
King actually using his blade to cut in combat > Law using his blade as a glorified needle.
Law uses his blade offensively only for range purposes. Who has Law ever even attempted to cut with his blade? Law can hold a paddle made of quality metal instead of a sword and it changes virtually nothing about him or his fighting style.
Defensively having a blade helps you obviously in CQC. He's no different than King there. Offensively King is more of a swordsman than Law but Law having a cursed blade even things out.
You can put more weight on the other that's fine. Point is for all intents and purposes King is a swordsman by definition.
Zoro's goal in life is to be "saikyo." His character revolves around that even to a fault where people think he's shallow. Many of us like Usopp more than Chopper but can admit he isn't as strong. But if that was his goal, many people would probably think twice about shitting on him at every turn to play up his peers.
Obviously you have your opinion, sure you like Zoro second most for your own reason. But the narrative shows some objective misunderstandings, and that's why you're wrong about stuff that happens.
Obviously you have your opinion, sure you like Zoro second most for your own reason. But the narrative shows some objective misunderstandings, and that's why you're wrong about stuff that happens.