General & Others Is Oda trying to force ZKK on us?

#11
By making Luffy lose, is this his way of forcing the ZKK plot on us due to pressure from the idiot editors?
damn condom fans at it level :milaugh:

oda giving ZKK hints since before more tha 3years

it will be a Asspull if Zkk doesnt happen due to pressure from Dumb fuck editors :milaugh:

condom so fucking weak i bet editors are the one who made Condom still Struggling with kaido before getting the Oneshot as usual
 
#14
I've never been an advocate of ZKK happening in the wake of Luffy's loss, but rather in the wake of his victory

I don't think Oda would stoop so low as to have Luffy lose to Kaido and then have Zoro come in and kill him. Zoro hasn't even gone through the grim reaper plotline yet, it's not yet time for ZKK

But ZKK also isn't "forced." If you look at the evidence and build-up from everything during and even before Wano, including manga panels/statements, One Piece magazines, Vivre Cards, etc. you'll get the full picture...it's been there

At this point ZKK seems so absurdly obvious in terms of evidence that I fear it's even a red herring lmao
 
#16
There's no forces been there entire time. He's been working towards this since Punk hazard. Song just don't wish to accept it.

They refuse to acknowledge that the Scabbards and Wano won't acknowledge victory over title until he's dead. That means he has to be killed and Luffy can't kill him. Not only it is not in his character to kill but he doesn't have the tools needed to kill Kaido.

While Zoro just received some character development and we were told that swords, at least from one blacksmith point of view, are tools designed to kill.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#17
There's no forces been there entire time. He's been working towards this since Punk hazard. Song just don't wish to accept it.

They refuse to acknowledge that the Scabbards and Wano won't acknowledge victory over title until he's dead. That means he has to be killed and Luffy can't kill him. Not only it is not in his character to kill but he doesn't have the tools needed to kill Kaido.

While Zoro just received some character development and we were told that swords, at least from one blacksmith point of view, are tools designed to kill.
What are you gonna do when ZKK doesn't happen? Are you gonna call it bad writing and start bashing Oda, or are you gonna accept that the people who were dismissing it were right the entire time?
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#19
What are you gonna do when ZKK doesn't happen? Are you gonna call it bad writing and start bashing Oda, or are you gonna accept that the people who were dismissing it were right the entire time?
What would you call it if he doesnt deliver on the thing he has been building up for the last 10 years or so?
This is not something that delusional fanboys made up, this has heavy evidence in the manga itself.
 
#20
This is not something that delusional fanboys made up, this has heavy evidence in the manga itself.
It's insane that some people don't understand this. They genuinely think it's a made-up fanfic Zoro wank fantasy (not saying @ZenZu is one of these people)

I'm on the fence about what's more insane, though: still believing that ZKK is a wank fanfic, or sifting through the evidence for ZKK and still thinking it has a "0% chance" to happen
 
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