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Again it is not about destiny it is about luffys understanding and approach to his purpose is not congruent to his destiny. Luffy is a bad character simple. You may be his fanboy but it is what it is.
Shaming naruto for the power up look at this shit
The Power up happened because of "Destiny". And it is why you created this post no?

And what do you mean by "Again"? you were conversing with me about "Destiny".
 
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Lets use an example. Sanji wants to find the all blue, as he took inspiration from zeff. However, he was bred by judge to be a perfect soldier. Luffy wants to be a pirate like shanks even though garp wanted him to be a marine.
Your lineage never defined who you are, it was either someone the characters is impacted or inspired by.
Yes, and?
I.don't see your issue here
 
if you think zoro and sanji has been portrayed in a more valuable way then idk what to tell you. Luffy did not let zoro fight a swordsman in Issho and sanji could not save luffy without being saved by germa. Sanji is supposed to be fast.
Zoro has incredible portrayal himself and will most likely end up as the counter part and Luffy's moon. The hints are strong with this one too. So stop the cope.

@shanksisevil111 let's not make it sound like you can achieve shit in the world of One Piece without being born this way. If you are not born as a conqueror, you are out immediately. The fight for the throne is decided by those conquerors, that was said years ago, and powerful Devil Fruits are also gifted. Or the fact that Blackbeard can consume several Devil Fruits.

Luffy was never portrayed as achieving everything with solely hard work. Though the thing is, he does work hard, he has incredible will, while also having additional advantages since birth. The fact that he ate the Gomu Gomu no Mi was precisely because Luffy's ambition and character attracted this power. Hence Shanks also sacrificed his arm for Luffy, witnessing how his words matched Roger's.

And I think as soon as Joyboy was introduced namely, it was pretty clear that Luffy will continue in his footsteps. I don't think Luffy literally became Joyboy though. We know from Sabo that you can inherit the will of the previous user of a fruit. We know objects inherit the will of the previous user too.

But in the end it is obvious that everything is more or less destiny. That's why Buggy isn't the next Pirate King. Because no amount of hard work will help him.
 
The reason why the addition of joyboy is abysmal is because joyboy is another being with his own goals while luffy is luffy. You can say they are the same but they are not. Pirate does not equal hero. Naruto was a ninja who wanted peace luffy is a pirate who wants freedom not to be a hero. 1000Chapters and the author changes the narrative @Santoryu D Bazooka
But Oda never changed his narrative tho. JoyBoy was a person who spread Joys and frees slaves because he was "Free" isn't that what Luffy has been doing the entire series? he is not a Hero who would go out of his way to save the dying People of Alabasta Fishman Dressrosa or Wano. He just fights for their freedom and his. Because he likes them its his "Free Will" to do that he is not being a Hero about it but he saves them on his own way.
 
But Oda never changed his narrative tho. JoyBoy was a person who spread Joys and frees slaves because he was "Free" isn't that what Luffy has been doing the entire series? he is not a Hero who would go out of his way to save the dying People of Alabasta Fishman Dressrosa or Wano. He just fights for their freedom and his. Because he likes them its his "Free Will" to do that he is not being a Hero about it but he saves them on his own way.
Yeah luffy also frees dangerous criminals
 
Zoro has incredible portrayal himself and will most likely end up as the counter part and Luffy's moon. The hints are strong with this one too. So stop the cope.
And I think as soon as Joyboy was introduced namely, it was pretty clear that Luffy will continue in his footsteps. I don't think Luffy literally became Joyboy though. We know from Sabo that you can inherit the will of the previous user of a fruit. We know objects inherit the will of the previous user too.
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Zunesha literally calls him joyboy. Its a lot different than how characters mention how he acts like or resembles roger. Its very explicit.
 
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Exactly why Luffy is different and why we like One Piece "Freedom/ideologies/Moralities" we don't know what Luffy will do. He is not a hero never has been. He just does what feels right to him.
This is what I like about One Piece.
Many stories have the protagonists aspire becoming 'good guys', 'save the world' or become 'heroes'.
In one piece, the main characters are pirates and just do what they want.
 
Luffy is not a good guy. He is an anarchist. Koby is the only good guy. This is shambles a total capitulation i just can not understsnd how many people choose to be in denial over this blatant fact. Luffy is not a character anymore and the story does not really have a narrative. Shit writing
 
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Luffy is not a good guy. He is an anarchist. Koby is the only good guy. This is shambles a total capitulation i just can not understsnd how many people choose to be in denial over this blatant fact
We knew this.
And what's the problem you have with it?
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Luffy is not a character anymore and the story does not really have a narrative. Shit writing
This has nothing to do with the first part of the post.
 
Luffy is not a good guy. He is an anarchist. Koby is the only good guy. This is shambles a total capitulation i just can not understsnd how many people choose to be in denial over this blatant fact. Luffy is not a character anymore and the story does not really have a narrative. Shit writing
I explained why I think Luffy is a unique character to other MCs. He still stands as his own character you have to wait and see.
 
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