General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Logiko]

U keep bringing up the Pedro something, like that is enough for her character

And you keep saying that one parameter is what I base myself on when my argumentation is based on MULTIPLE parameters.. But keep lying bro..

Where? Can't I dont see it the only thing that was foreshadowing was the sulong transformation

Her introduction in chapter 804 and 805 are EXACTLY that : a foreshadowing of the role of Carrot as a look out. If you can't see that, you don't really deserve to have a say on the analysis of the story.

She just looks like all of the minks but only thing is that she is a rabbit mink 😂😂

Not at all.

And you are TOO illiterate TO know the difference between TOO and TO

No I'm just writing fast

Why would it raise redflags when its been the standard for Oda
Its only a subversion to you because you are biased

Subversion dialogue are indeed one of Oda's main weapon, but only when he is making the reader expect something that won't happen.

Building Yamato up only to have Carrot join means that all that build up gets transfered to Carrot, which makes no sense since the two have nothing to do with each other

The problem is that you think that Yamato is constructed in order to prepare for Carrot.

As I said in my first message on this forum:

Yamato is not constructed as a strawhat AT ALL. So there is no reason to say that if Carrot join, Yamato was build for nothing.

Yamato is an arc character, constructed as an arc character and acting like an arc character. The only reason you guys think Yamato will join the crew is because you projected your need to have someone strong joining the crew on that poor girl. The fact is: She doesn't deserve your "" love "". She deserve more than this.

Carrot has been in the story long enough and been in multiple arcs
Of course she'd eventually be seen eating around Luffy

Not only "eating around Luffy" (what she did multiple times), SHARING food with Luffy, which is VERY RARE.

Yamato has only been in one arc and that arc is a war, if this was so crucial Carrot would be eating with Luffy in Onigashima

And it's enough to have the character interact in multiple ways. The problem is that Oda does not do that with Yamato and the strawhat.

But instead she failed to avenger (not get revenge) her mentor and now is working under one of her kings where she belongs and will stay

naht for long

This is arrogance of the highest order

No, this is confidence.

What is unique about her fighting style?

Her gauntlet, her floating ability and her Electro

That she has electricity? Nami has her own thunder cloud

Brook as a sword, Zoro as a sword. Irrelevant argument.

Don't you see it she punches... while wearing gloves
THATS UNIQUE AS FUCK!!!!! LMAO

Yes it is in the scope of One Piece. Maybe not impressive in comparison to Yamato's strenght, but still unique in the strawhat crew. Carrot is one of the few female in the story who is a melee fighter.

Yoooooo her Sulong is crazy unique too
She can only use it ONCE a MONTH...AT NIGHT!!!!!
FOR LIKE 3 MINUTES!!!!!

More like ten minutes.

 

[IIskandar1997]

Yoooooo her Sulong is crazy unique too
She can only use it ONCE a MONTH...AT NIGHT!!!!!
FOR LIKE 3 MINUTES!!!!!

And only if its not cloudy too, what a reliable crewmate that would be

 

[Animangaboy]

Her introduction in chapter 804 and 805 are EXACTLY that : a foreshadowing of the role of Carrot as a look out. If you can't see that, you don't really deserve to have a say in the analysis of the story.

Where does it show that the crew need a lookout?

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Not at

Yes cause there is no difference between her and the minks

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gauntlet, her floating ability and her Electro

Brook can walk on water so I dont see anything so special about that alSo nami have Zeus now

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Brook as a sword, Zoro as a sword. Irrelevant argument

Both have a different fighting style so this is irrelevant

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The problem is that Oda does not do that with Yamato and the strawhat.

But Oda make sure she with luffy thou 😊

 

[Logiko]

Where does it show that the crew need a lookout?

Why this quesiton. We are talking about foreshadow here, this question is irrelevant in that matter.

Yes cause there is no difference between her and the minks

Yes there are. But you won't listen no matter what I say, you are too biased.

Brook can walk on water so I dont see anything so special about that alSo nami have Zeus now

And ? THose comparison are irrelevant. THose are different fighting skills. You are biased as hell.

Both have a different fighting style so this is irrelevant

no. It's the same comparison you made between Nami and Carrot. YOUR ARGUMENT was irrelevant.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Here is a more accurate deconstruction of this panel:

Point of focus in Yellow
Line of sight in red
Composition construction in blue
And Focus helpers in black.

See, the problem is that I'm both a writer and an artist. I don't like to brag, but with you guyz I don't have a choice. I possesse both knowledge to understand properly storytelling AND composition to a high degree. So when someone like you or Sigran tries to put my back against the wall on storytelling with the antagonist or composition with that.. I usually bites hard.

Here is the proof that your analysis is (partially) wrong. Carrot is INDEED a focus in this panel. Not the only one, but A focus nonetheless. She is here the secondary subject. Much like a hidden clew.

In a panel of this importance, this is not normal. This is in fact really odd and SHOULD raises eyebrows.

Oh Btw! I forgot to add that Carrot's head (and the sun of Jinbe) are PRECISELY at the center of this panel.

I can’t stop thinking about this, or get over the fact that an actual human (?) put in the required amount of effort to highlight something that may be front and center but is so visibly NOT the focus of a picture…I know you’re just posting to get a negative reaction, but honestly, this is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen and I have to applaud your commitment to the bit :cheers:

 

[Staticshadic]

And you keep saying that one parameter is what I base myself on when my argumentation is based on MULTIPLE parameters.. But keep lying bro..




Her introduction in chapter 804 and 805 are EXACTLY that : a foreshadowing of the role of Carrot as a look out. If you can't see that, you don't really deserve to have a say on the analysis of the story.




Not at all.




No I'm just writing fast



Subversion dialogue are indeed one of Oda's main weapon, but only when he is making the reader expect something that won't happen.




The problem is that you think that Yamato is constructed in order to prepare for Carrot.

As I said in my first message on this forum:

Yamato is not constructed as a strawhat AT ALL. So there is no reason to say that if Carrot join, Yamato was build for nothing.

Yamato is an arc character, constructed as an arc character and acting like an arc character. The only reason you guys think Yamato will join the crew is because you projected your need to have someone strong joining the crew on that poor girl. The fact is: She doesn't deserve your "" love "". She deserve more than this.




Not only "eating around Luffy" (what she did multiple times), SHARING food with Luffy, which is VERY RARE.




And it's enough to have the character interact in multiple ways. The problem is that Oda does not do that with Yamato and the strawhat.




naht for long



No, this is confidence.




Her gauntlet, her floating ability and her Electro




Brook as a sword, Zoro as a sword. Irrelevant argument.




Yes it is in the scope of One Piece. Maybe not impressive in comparison to Yamato's strenght, but still unique in the strawhat crew. Carrot is one of the few female in the story who is a melee fighter.







More like ten minutes.

where does it say that carrot transformation can last for like 10 minutes?

 

[Jew D. Boy]

“Focus helpers,” Jesus tap dancing Christ

 

[Ballel]

Why this quesiton. We are talking about foreshadow here, this question is irrelevant in that matter.

Brook for example was foreshadowed before Nami joined.
Chopper was foreshadowed end of arlong park.

 

[Logiko]

but is so visibly NOT the focus of a picture

wrong

Brook for example was foreshadowed before Nami joined.
Chopper was foreshadowed end of arlong park.

Yes, but I was not talking about the character but the POST of the character during her INTRODUCTION.

DO I really have to explain everything ? Do you guys can't really understand one simple thing about storytelling ?

 

[AL sama]

There is a rule with Oda. If a fight don't matter, there is no need to show it. That was the case here with Carrot. Her fight wasn't the focal point of her action. On the contrary, her defeat was, we can see that because of the treatment of that defeat. It has impact, it has value. In that matter, the speech of Perospero is very important because he is a bad guy and Carrot a good one. This must not be ignored. This defeat will come into play in the arc of Carrot, must it be with a simple flashback or something more.

I can argue its not a rule but lets go with what you're saying and assume its a rule

so tell me why the fight between akainu and aokiji was off screened??

 

[CyborgKuma]

there is no way an ordinary mink like carrot would join the strawhats.. maybe the grandfleet but not more.
neither is she exceptional nor is she helpful during a combat when it comes to daylight.

Yamato is clear

 

[IIskandar1997]

Here is a more accurate deconstruction of this panel:

Point of focus in Yellow
Line of sight in red
Composition construction in blue
And Focus helpers in black.

See, the problem is that I'm both a writer and an artist. I don't like to brag, but with you guyz I don't have a choice. I possesse both knowledge to understand properly storytelling AND composition to a high degree. So when someone like you or Sigran tries to put my back against the wall on storytelling with the antagonist or composition with that.. I usually bites hard.

Here is the proof that your analysis is (partially) wrong. Carrot is INDEED a focus in this panel. Not the only one, but A focus nonetheless. She is here the secondary subject. Much like a hidden clew.

In a panel of this importance, this is not normal. This is in fact really odd and SHOULD raises eyebrows.

Oh Btw! I forgot to add that Carrot's head (and the sun of Jinbe) are PRECISELY at the center of this panel.

 

[Animangaboy]

there are. But you won't listen no matter what I say, you are too biased

Where? Please me tell about them

 

[Ballel]

Point of focus in Yellow

You drew a point and a line

Composition construction

And Focus helpers in black.

What the f is a focus helper?????

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DO I really have to explain everything ? Do you guys can't really understand one simple thing about storytellin

Everyone can
Except you it seems

 

[Animangaboy]

Why this quesiton. We are talking about foreshadow here, this question is irrelevant in that matter.

So u are telling me when a stranger enters your island are u not going to be on a lookout?

 

[Ballel]

there is no way an ordinary mink like carrot would join the strawhats.. maybe the grandfleet but not more.
neither is she exceptional nor is she helpful during a combat when it comes to daylight.

Yamato is clear

We don't need another underage animal
hybrid in the crew.
Carrot was only invented for the furries among the readers (like @Akai2 )

 

[Animangaboy]

And ? THose comparison are irrelevant. THose are different fighting skills. You are biased as hell.

Also only in her sulong form she can float nothing else

 

[Ballel]

Also only in her sulong form she can float nothing else

This thread is so funny man
It's like teaching a 3 y/o how to walk.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

See, the problem is that I'm both a writer and an artist

I’m a published writer and you know how I feel about the insane shit you post; my fiancé is a professional artist, I showed this to her and she also started laughing her ass off, so that’s at least one person apiece who actually gets paid to do the things you mentioned and thinks you’re an absolute CHUD

 

[Ballel]

There is a rule with Oda. If a fight don't matter, there is no need to show it.

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