One Piece Chapter 1043:”We die together!!“
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Well I thought it might just tie in to her being an expert as a navigator and sensing the weather but idk, as if it even matters anymore. Although I imagine she will be vital to finding Laugh Tale at least naturally ofc.
Her expertise doesn't help her in combat unless she learns to sense and manipulate the weather in her environment to her advantage but that only works outside too ofc. I want all the SHs to have basic CoO and CoA but thats clearly too much to ask for from Oda.
Her expertise doesn't help her in combat unless she learns to sense and manipulate the weather in her environment to her advantage but that only works outside too ofc. I want all the SHs to have basic CoO and CoA but thats clearly too much to ask for from Oda.
Well I thought it might just tie in to her being an expert as a navigator and sensing the weather but idk, as if it even matters anymore. Although I imagine she will be vital to finding Laugh Tale at least naturally ofc.
Her expertise doesn't help her in combat unless she learns to sense and manipulate the weather in her environment to her advantage but that only works outside too ofc. I want all the SHs to have basic CoO and CoA but thats clearly too much to ask for from Oda.
Her expertise doesn't help her in combat unless she learns to sense and manipulate the weather in her environment to her advantage but that only works outside too ofc. I want all the SHs to have basic CoO and CoA but thats clearly too much to ask for from Oda.
She used a lot of cool stuff during her fight against Kalifa. And her combinations of "cold", "heat", etc were due to her expertise.
Now she goes the "lazy way" of "tornado sword".
"Wow Nami, how to you generate the tornado? do you use some pressure and temperature gimmicks how you used to?"
"No, the thing just blasts a tornado on its own".
If she got CoO, it would be the same thing.
"Nami, how do you know a storm is coming? are you analyzing the variations of the wind, of tide, etc?"
"No, I used CoO to sense it".
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Lmao oh god. I do want Nami to have CoC but given how Oda has written her in some ways post TS, I'm not sure if she deserves it anymore. There are moments and reasons I think she should get it but still.
I wouldn't put it past Oda to joke about Nami having CoC involving the power of her beauty and naked body somehow, he would love that.
I've not seen the theory but Imu gives huge Kaguya vibes, I sometime wonder if other authors find out what Oda has planned for OP somehow way ahead of time and rush to include it into their stories before he does it or Oda is copying them or similar inspirations and concepts? Probably the last option with Japanese mythology influences, cultural beliefs/religions and such ofc.
Kaguya was so badly written in her defeat and as a villain, sigh. I love her design and what she inspired by and her role and powers even but man, I rage quit Naruto after how Kishi handled her defeat.
Yeah thats what I enjoyed pre TS, when she had the heat dials and whatever imbued into her clima tact by Usopp post Skypeia. That was really cool and what I wanted for her.
I don't even mind her creating a tornado by herself, I'm just so sick of her being a damsel in distress/vulnerable, cowardly and spamming thunder attacks all the time and needing Zeus now as a crutch/powerup.
Oda's writing has definitely got lazier/dumbed down post TS with many characters. Given how he's treated Usopp's CoO post Dressrosa, there's not point in hoping for haki for the rest of the SHs actually. He'll just forget about it and not let them use it.
I wouldn't put it past Oda to joke about Nami having CoC involving the power of her beauty and naked body somehow, he would love that.
I've not seen the theory but Imu gives huge Kaguya vibes, I sometime wonder if other authors find out what Oda has planned for OP somehow way ahead of time and rush to include it into their stories before he does it or Oda is copying them or similar inspirations and concepts? Probably the last option with Japanese mythology influences, cultural beliefs/religions and such ofc.
Kaguya was so badly written in her defeat and as a villain, sigh. I love her design and what she inspired by and her role and powers even but man, I rage quit Naruto after how Kishi handled her defeat.
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Yeah thats what I enjoyed pre TS, when she had the heat dials and whatever imbued into her clima tact by Usopp post Skypeia. That was really cool and what I wanted for her.
I don't even mind her creating a tornado by herself, I'm just so sick of her being a damsel in distress/vulnerable, cowardly and spamming thunder attacks all the time and needing Zeus now as a crutch/powerup.
Oda's writing has definitely got lazier/dumbed down post TS with many characters. Given how he's treated Usopp's CoO post Dressrosa, there's not point in hoping for haki for the rest of the SHs actually. He'll just forget about it and not let them use it.
I think Imo will end up being 100% better written then Kaguya cause I think a lot of her void century backstory was planned a while ago. I'm 80% sure she's going to be a failed princess figure to juxtapose the other princess figures throughout the rest of the series.
I think if Nami is to get Haki would only be Conquerors. Don't see anything else suiting her. Would only be used to get people horny though lol. Typical Loda
I think if Nami is to get Haki would only be Conquerors. Don't see anything else suiting her. Would only be used to get people horny though lol. Typical Loda
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I suspect Shanks might have told Kaido about Luffy's DF and him even becoming Joyboy potentially and that's how he got Kaido to back off from going to Marineford "so easily" and why randomly said to Luffy he couldn't be Joyboy before after he beat him. Kaido might end up knowing about it but that this seems like a plot hole/flawed somehow.
I'd say it's more likely for the Gorosei to talk about it or especially Luffy to reveal it himself or even Joyboy to mention it via Luffy if it's actually him too ofc. There is one more CP0 member who could report to the Gorosei on what just happened and they can give us the much needed reveal and exposition?
How ironic for exposition to actually be needed and warranted too...
I'd say it's more likely for the Gorosei to talk about it or especially Luffy to reveal it himself or even Joyboy to mention it via Luffy if it's actually him too ofc. There is one more CP0 member who could report to the Gorosei on what just happened and they can give us the much needed reveal and exposition?
How ironic for exposition to actually be needed and warranted too...
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Yeah Imu has had much longer setup by now plus their role still makes sense in the OP world and put a great shake up on what we know of the world building and lore of OP. Imu does have the potential to be great and I do suspect Imu is female too, a failed princess would be a v ery interesting angle too. Could explain why they're targeting Vivi too. Imu might even the Princess Kaguya of OP ironically lol, the bamboo moon princess who can have god-like powers too literally?
Lmao horny CoC. That could make her similar to Boa to make her distract and disable opponents, maybe even "Charm" them like in RPGs to do her bidding. I kinda saw signs of this potential with how she threatened and manipulated the seducing woods homies and Zeus too.
Lmao horny CoC. That could make her similar to Boa to make her distract and disable opponents, maybe even "Charm" them like in RPGs to do her bidding. I kinda saw signs of this potential with how she threatened and manipulated the seducing woods homies and Zeus too.
Oh that bottom part has me worried Oda is gonna pull a Nami Boa fight as one of her conflicts... the fan service that fight would bring... wasn't there a panel of them standing opposite each other in a magazine that made it look like it was happening as well...
I'm still unsure of what Vivi's endgoal is. Maybe Imu's targeting her atm cause she thinks she's the new princess figure but it won't end up being her. I can't see her being Pluton. Maybe it is just to do with the kingdom of Alabasta coming back into the WG
I'm still unsure of what Vivi's endgoal is. Maybe Imu's targeting her atm cause she thinks she's the new princess figure but it won't end up being her. I can't see her being Pluton. Maybe it is just to do with the kingdom of Alabasta coming back into the WG
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Thats sounds familiar, Oda would def make Boa want to fight Nami over jealousy over Luffy lol. I remember her geting annoyed/jealous over hearing Luffy had female nakama or so? Wait till she sees the other princesses too! And then Hiyori/Komurasaki too and maybe Gerd who is part of the Grand Fleet now too and such...Also imagine if BM made herself young again and chased Luffy in front of Boa? LMFAO!
Yeah, Alabasta still has a lot of importance, Cobra may get killed off and there is at least one theory out there that Imu is Imhotep and wants to marry Vivi, similarly to The Mummy movies at least. Gain an immortal bride via Laws or Bonneys DFs even and Imu may be immortal themselves. Or Vivi is key to their plans somehow, I do think she is linked to Pluton somehow, someone said she is gonna be key to piloting or at least activating it?
I used to be friends with someone who noticed some very interesting, unique subtle and very potentially important lore wise details about Alabasta in its walls in the tombs or something but I can't remember what they were nor am I in contact with that person anymore. It was very interesting to what it could lead to, it seemed to be connected to the sun god/Nika stuff too. A sun symbol and such?
There's also this too...
I kinda want Pluton to be a flying and or sand ship too, not just a normal ship that can only travel via water. I loved how Capones fortress ship could travel on land but shame it could destroyed too? Such an awesome ship, RIP....
Yeah, Alabasta still has a lot of importance, Cobra may get killed off and there is at least one theory out there that Imu is Imhotep and wants to marry Vivi, similarly to The Mummy movies at least. Gain an immortal bride via Laws or Bonneys DFs even and Imu may be immortal themselves. Or Vivi is key to their plans somehow, I do think she is linked to Pluton somehow, someone said she is gonna be key to piloting or at least activating it?
I used to be friends with someone who noticed some very interesting, unique subtle and very potentially important lore wise details about Alabasta in its walls in the tombs or something but I can't remember what they were nor am I in contact with that person anymore. It was very interesting to what it could lead to, it seemed to be connected to the sun god/Nika stuff too. A sun symbol and such?
There's also this too...
I kinda want Pluton to be a flying and or sand ship too, not just a normal ship that can only travel via water. I loved how Capones fortress ship could travel on land but shame it could destroyed too? Such an awesome ship, RIP....
I'm not sure Joyboy will actually appear in person. When Zunisha says Joyboy is back after 800 years I feel more like it was Monkey D Luffy who awakened his fruit or some power that got to the "Joyboy" stage. What is certain is that Luffy has unlocked something new. We're gonna Luffy go liquid, what does that mean? That Luffy regenerates?
Looks like Luffy is healing or something. This is the first time an antagonist has officially defeated Luffy with the narrator's (Oda) confession never before seen. Kaido is clearly holding his rank. Luffy lost the battle on the roof.
Will the last fight between Luffy who awakened "Joyboy" that Kaido that Kaido wanted so much to face and have would take place on the flower capital in front of all the people of Wano when dawn breaks since Luffy (Joyboy) has just come from appear?
I think it can be done. I think Joyboy is a title that no one has achieved in 800 years except Luffy. But we know that Joyboy really existed too, many questions about Joyboy.
Unlike many I don't think Luffy was dead for a while, in fact I feel more like he was close to death but his awakening saved him. I don't believe in a split personality between Luffy and Joyboy either.
Luffy will remain Luffy.
Monkey D Luffy doesn't need a lot of Powers-Up Now. One Piece was never close to its end. Monkey D Luffy is Joyboy, Monkey D Luffy is Roger, Monkey D Luffy is One Piece
Looks like Luffy is healing or something. This is the first time an antagonist has officially defeated Luffy with the narrator's (Oda) confession never before seen. Kaido is clearly holding his rank. Luffy lost the battle on the roof.
Will the last fight between Luffy who awakened "Joyboy" that Kaido that Kaido wanted so much to face and have would take place on the flower capital in front of all the people of Wano when dawn breaks since Luffy (Joyboy) has just come from appear?
I think it can be done. I think Joyboy is a title that no one has achieved in 800 years except Luffy. But we know that Joyboy really existed too, many questions about Joyboy.
Unlike many I don't think Luffy was dead for a while, in fact I feel more like he was close to death but his awakening saved him. I don't believe in a split personality between Luffy and Joyboy either.
Luffy will remain Luffy.
Monkey D Luffy doesn't need a lot of Powers-Up Now. One Piece was never close to its end. Monkey D Luffy is Joyboy, Monkey D Luffy is Roger, Monkey D Luffy is One Piece
That is so true too.
But then again I'm talking about something that happened like 300 chapters ago and since then, Oda made clear again and again that the "charming" part of Nami is other people looking at her tits when she doesn't want to...
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