Spoiler One Piece Chapter 973 Spoilers Discussion

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Denjirou should know who the traitor was/is, right? :pepelit: And given the flashback, with his relationship with Kinemon as two original followers of Oden, i believe Kienemon is THE traitor. No concrete evidence so far, and most of the times it works against him being a traitor, but i still think Kienemon, the least suspected scabbard, is actually the TRAITOR, mainly due to the emotional impact :feelscryingman:
 
Zoro's pre-game before King :cheers:. This dude is also portrayed to be one of Orochi's top dogs and as such he should be one of the best Samurai on Wano (Oda has already established the upper limit of Wano Samurai as Base Jack level). Like Kyoushiro is also the leader of one of the major factions on Wano and tbf only thing Kyoushiro really has over this dude is screen time/plot relevance apparently coz he's Denjirou. So Zoro could still yet tango with a strong Wano Samurai. About time y'all start giving these characters a bit of love too lolz. His design is dope too and he seems to be a Nitoryuu swordsman to boot.
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Kinemon, which is a mid tier scabbard, couldn't do shit and already accepted his fate when Golem Pica approached the hill he, Kanjuro, and King Riku were in.
He was completely helpless against Pica.

That makes scabbards with weaker portrayal than him; Kiku, Kanjuro, Raizo also couldn't do shit against Pica in 1 vs 1.

Base dukes, Ashura, and Denjiro, I think will also have hard time if it's against fullpowered Golem Pica.

Dukes with their AP can't take down Jack in 5 days
Ashura's best feat is breaking Jack's small weapon
Denjiro's best feat is blocking an attack from nerfed and bandaged Zoro


Yep that's it @nik87
Pica will win against all of Red scrubbards in 1 vs 1
 
Zoro's pre-game before King :cheers:. This dude is also portrayed to be one of Orochi's top dogs and as such he should be one of the best Samurai on Wano (Oda has already established the upper limit of Wano Samurai as Base Jack level). Like Kyoushiro is also the leader of one of the major factions on Wano and tbf only thing Kyoushiro really has over this dude is screen time/plot relevance apparently coz he's Denjirou. So Zoro could still yet tango with a strong Wano Samurai. About time y'all start giving these characters a bit of love too lolz. His design is dope too and he seems to be a Nitoryuu swordsman to boot.
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Oda plot twist Denjiro raise and created this group.

Alliance allies lmao.
 
Zoro's pre-game before King :cheers:. This dude is also portrayed to be one of Orochi's top dogs and as such he should be one of the best Samurai on Wano (Oda has already established the upper limit of Wano Samurai as Base Jack level). Like Kyoushiro is also the leader of one of the major factions on Wano and tbf only thing Kyoushiro really has over this dude is screen time/plot relevance apparently coz he's Denjirou. So Zoro could still yet tango with a strong Wano Samurai. About time y'all start giving these characters a bit of love too lolz. His design is dope too and he seems to be a Nitoryuu swordsman to boot.
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that dude is brook's fight
 
I also doubt wano yakuza boss is below yc level when the previous one worried kaido
You are making it seem like Kyoshiro had to like defeat hyogoro to take his position or something

The contexts are different. Hyogoro was the head of the flower capital yakuza which made him the head of the yakuza in every other region. As in this man had to be string enough to be like Shadow shogun over the underworld of Wano since he had to reign in all the region's of Wano as well. That's why all the other yakuza bosses bow down to this man like he's a king or some shit.

There were no more Yakuza of other regions when Kyoshiro was operating since the other regions were destroyed. And Wano in general became much weaker so he opposition to the yakuza in general was much lower given the yakuza was backup by Kaido and Orochi now. Like you remember this flashback literally starts with a plot to destroy the Hyogoro yakuza family by sending that gigantic pig to crush their settlements. Are you saying Kyoshiro had to deal with such things when he can literally just tell Queen to send assassins when some random Soba cook acts up?

You are ignoring alot of context when you conflate Hyogoro and kyoshiro like that
 
Ok i gladly recognize kyoshiro was overrated by me to a great degree..
Him being denjiro puts him at max around ashura level which is cleary below jack(as ashura is inu/neko level)
Unless kyoshiro had a special training in some way,then he loses to all calamities and zoro being stalled by him while injured and having 2 swords, doesn't put him anywhere near jack.
 
You are making it seem like Kyoshiro had to like defeat hyogoro to take his position or something

The contexts are different. Hyogoro was the head of the flower capital yakuza which made him the head of the yakuza in every other region. As in this man had to be string enough to be like Shadow shogun over the underworld of Wano since he had to reign in all the region's of Wano as well. That's why all the other yakuza bosses bow down to this man like he's a king or some shit.

There were no more Yakuza of other regions when Kyoshiro was operating since the other regions were destroyed. And Wano in general became much weaker so he opposition to the yakuza in general was much lower given the yakuza was backup by Kaido and Orochi now. Like you remember this flashback literally starts with a plot to destroy the Hyogoro yakuza family by sending that gigantic pig to crush their settlements. Are you saying Kyoshiro had to deal with such things when he can literally just tell Queen to send assassins when some random Soba cook acts up?

You are ignoring alot of context when you conflate Hyogoro and kyoshiro like that
him having the same title hyogoro once held
is enough on its own.
I dont need to have him fight hyo . I expect oda put him in the same pedigree he would give prime hyo based on his title. you can go on and on abut ashura . we arent going to agree on this mate.
 
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