Spoiler One Piece Chapter 973 Spoilers Discussion
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When Zoro starts to equally compete with King during Onigashima then i might have to re-think my opinion of Zoro coming out of the TS stronger than luffy.
No wonder he came out of Fujitora's gravity
No wonder he came out of Fujitora's gravity
and more importantly, Zoro already got power up and we have seen him "training".....
I'm talking about Pica
As for now, Cracker doesn't have any answer to Pica's golem punch. That is not mere punch, but more like city falling on its target. He and his biscuit soldiers will get levelled instantly from that.
Meanwhile Cracker doesn't have any answer to do anything significant to Pica's golem that can keep regenerating.
King Punch can KO a Yonko, but Zoro didn't let Elizabello to use it against Pica's golem.
Which means, an attack that can KO a Yonko, is still not enough to KO Golem Pica!!
As for Fujitora
Yep, Zoro didn't get 1 shotted by Top Tier Fujitora, managed to overcome the gravity and skirmish ended with Fujitora praising the flying slash of Zoro.
Meanwhile arcs later, Luffy met another Top Tier, Kaido. Didn't manage anything even with his Boundman, got 1 shotted, and skirmish ended with Kaido mocking Luffy's dream being Pirate King.
As for now, Cracker doesn't have any answer to Pica's golem punch. That is not mere punch, but more like city falling on its target. He and his biscuit soldiers will get levelled instantly from that.
Meanwhile Cracker doesn't have any answer to do anything significant to Pica's golem that can keep regenerating.
King Punch can KO a Yonko, but Zoro didn't let Elizabello to use it against Pica's golem.
Which means, an attack that can KO a Yonko, is still not enough to KO Golem Pica!!
As for Fujitora
Yep, Zoro didn't get 1 shotted by Top Tier Fujitora, managed to overcome the gravity and skirmish ended with Fujitora praising the flying slash of Zoro.
Meanwhile arcs later, Luffy met another Top Tier, Kaido. Didn't manage anything even with his Boundman, got 1 shotted, and skirmish ended with Kaido mocking Luffy's dream being Pirate King.
no offense but i'll go along with the explication as given by a Japanese person :
Answer by Makiko Itoh, 海外組: (found online)
Now, that being said, let's look at the context in the manga.... we know for a fact that Denjiro swore to protect Hyori and came up with the 2 fake names and identities, he is a big mafia boss working under Ochiri... Do you seriously think that Hyori has ever actually worked as a Oiran, like she had being introduced??
Answer by Makiko Itoh, 海外組: (found online)
- Oiran (花魁) was a name given to a prostitute who was very popular and highly regarded, mostly for her beauty, in the brothels of Yoshiwara in Edo (Tokyo). In the Edo period, prostitution conducted in specified areas, called yuukaku (遊郭), like Yoshiwara and was legal. A regular Yoshiwara prostitute was called a yuujo (遊女) which means “play woman.” (Other types of prostitutes had other names.) An oiran was like the pinup girl of Edo—many of the bijin-ga (pictures of beautiful women) that exist as woodcut prints are of oiran. There are no oiran left in modern Japan since prostitution is illegal now. There are some borderline almost prostitution businesses around, but the women who work in them are not called oiran or yuujo.
- A geisha (芸者), geiko (芸子), or geiki (芸妓), is a trained entertainer who is very skilled in song, dance, playing an instrument, and otherwise entertaining guests. Although not primarily prostitutes, some did sleep with clients and many “successfully” retired by becoming the mistress of a client, or sponsored by one or more, and so forth. There were also male geisha in the Edo.
- A tayuu (太夫) was the name used especially in Kyoto and Osaka for highly lauded and popular geiko and yuujo. Early on, the term was used for similarly ranked women in Edo too, but oiran became more widely used. (The term tayuu is also used in many other contexts for men and women. Basically it does mean the best or most respected in a certain field, such as in noh theater.)
Now, that being said, let's look at the context in the manga.... we know for a fact that Denjiro swore to protect Hyori and came up with the 2 fake names and identities, he is a big mafia boss working under Ochiri... Do you seriously think that Hyori has ever actually worked as a Oiran, like she had being introduced??
I'm not gonna turn this into another Pica vs the World wank debate so all I'm gonna say is this. If Zoro vs Pica is your biggest "Zoro > Luffy outta the TS" then you need to go back to the drawing board
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