Break Week Sanji is ultimate rival of Zoro

#21
Since ever people assumed mihawk would be, but mihawk:

1) his greatest rivalry is with shanks that is same generation as him
2) up until eos the rivalry with mihawk doesn't wirk because mihawk always was much stronger over 25 years, inly eos zoro will be on par
3) mihawk became zoro's sempai, he trained him and is like a father figure

4) mihawk is not a villain so that makes him unlikely the match of zoro in the future

5) mihawk aleeady started to fall by losing his warlord title and being hunted down by wg


Sanji:

1) rivaled zoro since the start over 25 years
2) always fight second and 3rd strongest, some rivals, queen vs king, jabra and kaku same doriki.
3)sanji and zoro both called wings of pirate king
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#26
Oda already proofed sanji to be superior to zoros extreme match king. White flames》red flames
Lmao flames weren't even King's major asset against Zoro. Covering one leg in hotter flames is, if at all, only slightly more impressive than a magma dragon that Zoro cut through like butter. No amount of heat will beat ACoC, no matter how long you Sanji fans go on about it.
 
#28
Wings doesnt' mean anything in terms of strength, like a certain delusional biased fandom would desperately claim. The Wings just refers to volume 73 SBS where Oda stated that both Zoro and Sanji are trustworthy men who cover Luffys's back. Which is, indeed, what they are, nothing more nothing less. Oda could have easily called them rivals or something in that issue, but... he chose to not.

And, funny thing, even if he did (which, again, he chose to not do) being rivals doesn't mean anything.
You can bicker like Lucci vs Jabra, Kaku vs Jabra, King vs Queen, Luffy vs Kidd, Shanks vs Buggy, Mr 1 vs Mr 2: these are gag rivalries where people just don't get along or friendly compete. You can have a rivalry that is not friendly and not based on gag but is still far from making the two rivals close or equals, as one of the two is much stronger than the other, like Kidd vs Apoo, Zoro vs Killer, Luffy vs Koby.
The supposed rivalry between Zoro and Sanji is a mix of the two aforementioned situations.
A completely different thing are properly said rivalries, like Shanks vs Mihawk, Zoro vs Mihawk, Roger vs Garp, Roger vs Whitebeard, Teach vs Luffy. These are serious strength rivalries where people compete for the pinnacle of strength and/or the same important achievement, and if they fight they would draw of the winner would come out after an extreme diff battle.

It's sad that this certain delusional biased fandom nonetheless continues to try to sustain that if you don't get along then that must be you definitely be equals or almost equals, who cares if anything else, feats, portrayal, benchmarks, paths, goals, roles, shows the opposite...

Zoro is showed, stated and implied by multiple sources to be the second strongest in the Strawhats, Luffy's right hand man and the first mate/vice captain for the rest of the crew.
Sanji is not. Why, you think?

Zoro is a Conqueror and an Advanced Conqueror Haki user, like Luffy.
Sanji is not. Why, you think?

Zoro, as the King of Hell (parallel for Rayleigh as the Dark King) and the future WSS who is basically the King of the Swordsmen, is a king on his own, like Luffy.
Sanji is not. Why, you think?

Zoro, like Luffy, is a Worst Generation Supernova, and was put in the top five Supernovas that received greater hype as the strongest pirates who lead the rising new generation.
Sanji is not. Why, you think?

Zoro needs to fulfill a strength oriented dream that requires him to reach and surpass Top Tiers, like Luffy.
Sanji does not. Why, you think?

Zoro is ofter portrayed as close in strength to Luffy. He is directly stated to have similar strength to Luffy and is shown to fight to a draw with the captain a 1 vs 1 fight that lasts for two chapter and has them use their named move and clash with the intent of prove the other who is the strongest between the two. A fight so serious that they don't want it to be interrupted.
Sanji does not. He is never portrayed as close in strength to Luffy. Why, you think?

Zoro always performs better than Sanji against strongest opponents or similar opponents: just compare Zoro vs Fujitora and Zoro vs Kaido and Big Mom to Sanji vs Doflamingo, or Zoro vs Pica to Sanji vs Vergo. Why, you think?

Zoro is the one who fights to protect Luffy from the very strongest enemies, especially when Luffy is defenseless (vs Kuma and vs Kaido are prime examples of this).
Sanji is not. Why, you think?

Zoro has some Advanced Haki, even two on three, Adv CoC and Adv CoA.
Sanji does not have any Advanced Haki. Why, you think?

Zoro is always in the main events and moments alongside with Luffy. Sanji is not. Why, you think?
Zoro: Oda has him being there for the relevation of Blackbeard with the "is not he, is they", has him in chapter 1000 for the great fight between Supernovas and Yonkos, has him being the only one Strawhat who met both Ace and Sabo.
Sanji: Oda has him not there because he is not relevant enough.

Zoro usually fight enemies strongest enemies than Sanji, enemies that are the counterpart in the opposite crew/group, as the second strongests/number twos/first mates/right hand men.
Sanji usually fights weaker enemies than Zoro, and most of times they are the counterpart in the opposite crew/group, as the third strongests/number three/left hand men.
Why, you think?

Zoro most of times fight someone that Sanji can't defeat (in Alabasta Sanji would lose to Mr 1 who Zoro defeated, in Skypiea Sanji would lose to Ohm who Zoro defeated, in Enies Lobby Sanji would lose or have an extreme diff fight with Kaku who Zoro defeated, in Dressrosa Sanji could not defeat Pica who Zoro defeated, in Wano/Onigashima Sanji would lose to King who Zoro defeated).
Sanji never fought someone that Zoro couldn't defeat (on the opposite, Zoro would make a clown of Sanji's opponents; while, as said, Sanji can't defeat most of the enemies that Zoro defeated in the same arc).
Why, you think?

Zoro always has a fight in every arc.
Sanji does not. Why, you think?

Zoro has many more power ups than Sanji. Why, you think?
Zoro: in Logue Town receives stronger swords than the ones he had before, in Alabasta learns how to cut steel (CoA Haki), in Skypiea learns how to do flying slashes, in Enies Lobby learns Ashura, in Thriller Bark receives Shunsui which is a much stronger sword than the one he had before, then in time skip trains under Mihawk, and in Wano/Onigashima receives Enma and unlocks Advanced Conqueror Haki.
Sanji: in Enies Lobby learns Diable Jambe, then in time skip trains under Emporio Ivankov, in WCI receives the Raid Suit and in Wano/Onigashima unlocks the esoskeleton and learns Ifrit Jambe.

Zoro's main iconic power ups are greater than Sanji's main iconic power ups (Ashura >> Diable Jambe and Advanced Conqueror Haki >> Vinsmoke Esoskeleton and Ifrit Jambe). Not to mention Oda having Zoro training with Mihawk... while at the same time Sanji is training with Emporio Ivankov. Why, you think?

Why does Oda keep making Zoro having parallels and sharing powers and things with Luffy while Sanji has zero parallels with Luffy and barely more than zero with Zoro?I mean... the pattern is clear. Like it or not, it's blatant.
And it should mean something...
That should be more relevant than "they bicker lol"
 
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#31
Why does Sanji has zero parallels with Luffy while Zoro shares so many? Oh... I guess Sanji is here but invisible?






Face reality. Deal with it. Zoro has much more parallels and things that he shares (portrayals, powers, goals, benchmarks) with Luffy than he has with Sanji. And most things that Zoro shares with Luffy, Sanji has not. Why, do you think? Maybe the answer is just the easiest...

Not to mention that Sanji was sure that Pre Adv CoC Zoro could have killed him if he went crazy with his newfound powers and started attacking people without realizing who they were.
Meaning that Sanji himself admitted that Zoro is confortably stronger than he is. And that was Pre Power Up Zoro.
So it's canon what appeared obvious: Pre Power Up Sanji < Crazy Evil Sanji (the one who would supposedly annihilate Queen immediately) < Pre Power Up Zoro < Current Zoro.
 
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#34
Wings doesnt' mean anything in terms of strength, like a certain delusional biased fandom would desperately claim. The Wings just refers to volume 73 SBS where Oda stated that both Zoro and Sanji are trustworthy men who cover Luffys's back. Which is, indeed, what they are, nothing more nothing less. Oda could have easily called them rivals or something in that issue, but... he chose to not.

And, funny thing, even if he did (which, again, he chose to not do) being rivals doesn't mean anything.
You can bicker like Lucci vs Jabra, Kaku vs Jabra, King vs Queen, Luffy vs Kidd, Shanks vs Buggy, Mr 1 vs Mr 2: these are gag rivalries where people just don't get along or friendly compete. You can have a rivalry that is not friendly and not based on gag but is still far from making the two rivals close or equals, as one of the two is much stronger than the other, like Kidd vs Apoo, Zoro vs Killer, Luffy vs Koby.
The supposed rivalry between Zoro and Sanji is a mix of the two aforementioned situations.
A completely different thing are properly said rivalries, like Shanks vs Mihawk, Zoro vs Mihawk, Roger vs Garp, Roger vs Whitebeard, Teach vs Luffy. These are serious strength rivalries where people compete for the pinnacle of strength and/or the same important achievement, and if they fight they would draw of the winner would come out after an extreme diff battle.

It's sad that this certain delusional biased fandom nonetheless continues to try to sustain that if you don't get along then that must be you definitely be equals or almost equals, who cares if anything else, feats, portrayal, benchmarks, paths, goals, roles, shows the opposite...

Zoro is showed, stated and implied by multiple sources to be the second strongest in the Strawhats, Luffy's right hand man and the first mate/vice captain for the rest of the crew.
Sanji is not. Why, you think?

Zoro is a Conqueror and an Advanced Conqueror Haki user, like Luffy.
Sanji is not. Why, you think?

Zoro, as the King of Hell (parallel for Rayleigh as the Dark King) and the future WSS who is basically the King of the Swordsmen, is a king on his own, like Luffy.
Sanji is not. Why, you think?

Zoro, like Luffy, is a Worst Generation Supernova, and was put in the top five Supernovas that received greater hype as the strongest pirates who lead the rising new generation.
Sanji is not. Why, you think?

Zoro needs to fulfill a strength oriented dream that requires him to reach and surpass Top Tiers, like Luffy.
Sanji does not. Why, you think?

Zoro is ofter portrayed as close in strength to Luffy. He is directly stated to have similar strength to Luffy and is shown to fight to a draw with the captain a 1 vs 1 fight that lasts for two chapter and has them use their named move and clash with the intent of prove the other who is the strongest between the two. A fight so serious that they don't want it to be interrupted.
Sanji does not. He is never portrayed as close in strength to Luffy. Why, you think?

Zoro always performs better than Sanji against strongest opponents or similar opponents: just compare Zoro vs Fujitora and Zoro vs Kaido and Big Mom to Sanji vs Doflamingo, or Zoro vs Pica to Sanji vs Vergo. Why, you think?

Zoro is the one who fights to protect Luffy from the very strongest enemies, especially when Luffy is defenseless (vs Kuma and vs Kaido are prime examples of this).
Sanji is not. Why, you think?

Zoro has some Advanced Haki, even two on three, Adv CoC and Adv CoA.
Sanji does not have any Advanced Haki. Why, you think?

Zoro is always in the main events and moments alongside with Luffy. Sanji is not. Why, you think?
Zoro: Oda has him being there for the relevation of Blackbeard with the "is not he, is they", has him in chapter 1000 for the great fight between Supernovas and Yonkos, has him being the only one Strawhat who met both Ace and Sabo.
Sanji: Oda has him not there because he is not relevant enough.

Zoro usually fight enemies strongest enemies than Sanji, enemies that are the counterpart in the opposite crew/group, as the second strongests/number twos/first mates/right hand men.
Sanji usually fights weaker enemies than Zoro, and most of times they are the counterpart in the opposite crew/group, as the third strongests/number three/left hand men.
Why, you think?

Zoro most of times fight someone that Sanji can't defeat (in Alabasta Sanji would lose to Mr 1 who Zoro defeated, in Skypiea Sanji would lose to Ohm who Zoro defeated, in Enies Lobby Sanji would lose or have an extreme diff fight with Kaku who Zoro defeated, in Dressrosa Sanji could not defeat Pica who Zoro defeated, in Wano/Onigashima Sanji would lose to King who Zoro defeated).
Sanji never fought someone that Zoro couldn't defeat (on the opposite, Zoro would make a clown of Sanji's opponents; while, as said, Sanji can't defeat most of the enemies that Zoro defeated in the same arc).
Why, you think?

Zoro always has a fight in every arc.
Sanji does not. Why, you think?

Zoro has many more power ups than Sanji. Why, you think?
Zoro: in Logue Town receives stronger swords than the ones he had before, in Alabasta learns how to cut steel (CoA Haki), in Skypiea learns how to do flying slashes, in Enies Lobby learns Ashura, in Thriller Bark receives Shunsui which is a much stronger sword than the one he had before, then in time skip trains under Mihawk, and in Wano/Onigashima receives Enma and unlocks Advanced Conqueror Haki.
Sanji: in Enies Lobby learns Diable Jambe, then in time skip trains under Emporio Ivankov, in WCI receives the Raid Suit and in Wano/Onigashima unlocks the esoskeleton and learns Ifrit Jambe.

Zoro's main iconic power ups are greater than Sanji's main iconic power ups (Ashura >> Diable Jambe and Advanced Conqueror Haki >> Vinsmoke Esoskeleton and Ifrit Jambe). Not to mention Oda having Zoro training with Mihawk... while at the same time Sanji is training with Emporio Ivankov. Why, you think?

Why does Oda keep making Zoro having parallels and sharing powers and things with Luffy while Sanji has zero parallels with Luffy and barely more than zero with Zoro?I mean... the pattern is clear. Like it or not, it's blatant.
And it should mean something...
That should be more relevant than "they bicker lol"
They will straight up ignore your comment mate
They will either ignore it or cope
They don’t value facts
 
#37
Yeah thats sanji

Real talk tho there are times sanjis stronger but bias makes others not see it.
Yeah that Sanji always fighting the 2nd strongest in the crew... oh wait Just Kidding that's not Sanji... That's Zoro

Yeah that Sanji in the cover with all the other #2s in the crew.... oh wait Just Kidding that's not Sanji.... That's Zoro

Yeah that Sanji the 2nd crew member to have CoC and AdvCoC... oh wait Just Kidding that's not Sanji... That's Zoro

Real talk pot calling kettle Bias
 
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