Powers & Abilities Advanced Conqueror Haki vs Devil Fruit Awakening

Which is the strongest power up?

  • Advanced Conqueror Haki

    Votes: 109 76.8%
  • Devil Fruit Awakening

    Votes: 13 9.2%
  • They are on the same level

    Votes: 20 14.1%

  • Total voters
    142
#82
Advanced CoC on average easily.
Awakenings only are off the charts, when the DF is s-class and then it's thanks to it being such a crazy powerful ability in the first place and not thanks to awakening per se.
Nearly if not all of the awakened fruit users would end up being much more powerful if they would have advCoC instead in combination with their basic ability, while it's additionally a safe call against all types of opponents including logias.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#83
Law's DF looks so haxxed he impressed me so extensively during awakening mode in particular but I wonder if any barrier haki defense can work out or else I would pick it against any kind of haki potentially.
 
#86
When Law had fought Vergo we get some speech from Doffy saying that Law wasn't able to get past Vergo's haki in the past right before he slices him and the mountain which means he got stronger. Then the second hint would be on the roof when Law himself states that he can't use shambles on the Yonko because of their haki.
 
#87
we get some speech from Doffy saying that Law wasn't able to get past Vergo's haki in the past right before he slices
thats not what doffy was saying. he was just saying law was traumatized by vergo in the past, which we see in the flashback, and there is no law trying to cut hakified vergo in the flashback. Thats just a separate statement from doffy
 
#88
thats not what doffy was saying. he was just saying law was traumatized by vergo in the past, which we see in the flashback, and there is no law trying to cut hakified vergo in the flashback. Thats just a separate statement from doffy
Doffy is telling Law this via the den den mushi while in front of Vergo. Even if that's the case the point is strong enough haki could block his attacks since Doffy wouldn't say that for no reason, he over estimated the strength of Vergo's haki.
 
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#89
Doffy is telling Law this via the den den mushi while in front of Vergo. Even if that's the case the point is strong enough haki could block his attacks since Doffy wouldn't say that for no reason, he over estimated the strength of Vergo's haki.
oh i wasnt saying haki cant block laws attacks, doffy did in dressrosa. just wanted to clear up the part of what doffy said on the denden mushi.
 
#90
Like I said in other thread, it's all depends on your other stats. If Cracker has Awakening, would he be a top tier? No. Doffy and Katakuri are great example of that. Then you got dudes like Chinjao who I doubt would be a top tier with Adv CoC.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#91
Like I said in other thread, it's all depends on your other stats. If Cracker has Awakening, would he be a top tier? No. Doffy and Katakuri are great example of that. Then you got dudes like Chinjao who I doubt would be a top tier with Adv CoC.
Overall it depends on what awakening is being factored and the specific match up and also the degree of mastery as well as for CoC. Too many factors.
 
#92
oh i wasnt saying haki cant block laws attacks, doffy did in dressrosa. just wanted to clear up the part of what doffy said on the denden mushi.
Oh ok got you, yes!
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Like I said in other thread, it's all depends on your other stats. If Cracker has Awakening, would he be a top tier? No. Doffy and Katakuri are great example of that. Then you got dudes like Chinjao who I doubt would be a top tier with Adv CoC.
Hmm I would beg to differ about Chinjao because if he were to unlock acoc that means he has gotten stronger than what we have previously seen him including when he was battling Garp back in the day. Will he unlock it now at this old age? Probably and most likely not but the fact that if he were to unlock it means that his base stats pre unlock would be much higher than they are now that's not even including the boost that acoc gives you already.
 
#96
Awakening could be stronger but ONLY depending on which fruit.

Doflamingo and Kid's awakening for example is pretty lackluster and doesn't compare with AdvCoC.

But Law and Luffy's awakening (although mishandled) turned out very powerful, I honestly prefer them over AdvCoC.
 
#98
Most of people: Advanced Conqueror is more impressive, as it has a minimum required level as at least stronger than Yonko First Mates, while even Doflamingo, Crocodile and Perospero can unlock DF Awakening.
A certain delusionally biased fandom: DF Awakening is better.

I find this to be a very weird pattern, huh?
It seems like these certain delusionally biased guys envy the fact that Oda gave that power to the character they hate and they are obsessed with, while didn't do the same with their beloved simp.
Weird, huh?

:gokulaugh::milaugh:

Just deal with it. Why Sanji can't be here as a King and a Conqueror like Luffy and Zoro?
Oh, I get it, Sanji is here as well... we just can't see him because he is becoming invisible, am I right?



:kuzanshut:
 
#99
Obviously awakening is the most powerful boost. It was the last powerup. People just went overboard with the new Hakis, because they were new.

But that doesn’t mean FS + ACoA/ACoC are useless. Just not as OP as people think.

At the end of the day, it’s just about how strong your base is. All these abilities are add ons. Even with Super Saiyan, base Goku later on became stronger than his earliest SSJ1 transformation.
 
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