Also the fact that advanced conquerors haki came much after awakening also lets us know that it's the superior ability. Awakening was introduced all the way back at impel down while conquerors coating was only introduced 35 chapters ago. We have yet to see it's full capabilities since those using it right now are new to it (Luffy, Zoro) and also veterans like Kaido Big Mom Primebeard Roger Shanks haven't shown the full potential of the coating and what we have see just from the clash of Roger and Whitebeard is island level destructive not just sky splitting.
Powers & Abilities Advanced Conqueror Haki vs Devil Fruit Awakening
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Advanced CoC is still stronger, even now with Awakening, Luffy is still using ACoC. That should tell you Advanced CoC is a much greater power up than even Luffy's Nika Awakening.
Luffy has not even fully maxed put his CoC yet.
Luffy's Devil Fruit Awakening IS weaker than his Advanced CoC Coat Awakening.
Luffy has not even fully maxed put his CoC yet.
Luffy's Devil Fruit Awakening IS weaker than his Advanced CoC Coat Awakening.
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So far it appears G5 is proving the most robust but still Luffy's CoC is still in early stages I presume so at the end all is still to be played.
Maybe by the time he challenges Blackbeard or Im his CoC will be that magnificent.
I can't wait to find out how powerful Shanks' CoC is and how he would fare against G5 right now.
Maybe by the time he challenges Blackbeard or Im his CoC will be that magnificent.
I can't wait to find out how powerful Shanks' CoC is and how he would fare against G5 right now.
Doflamingo, being a Conqueror Haki user and having a DF with Awakening, and also perfectly knowing what Ope Ope can do, helds Conqueror Haki in very high regard, as a proof of the greater power of the ones who possess that ability:
So I'd say that it is something like this:
Nika Nika Awakening > Advanced Conqueror > or >= Top DFs Awakening >> Average DFs Awakening.
You can't compare the main character's DF Awakening of a special DF with all his shenanigans and what not, as if it was the usual standard for any DF Awakening. The Gomu Gomu/Nika Nika is something extremely special (the Ope Ope is as well not your average DF). Most Devil Fruits can't hold that standard.
While, on the other side, you need a minimum starting level to unlock Advanced Conqueror Haki.
Doflamingo has both Conqueror Haki and a DF, unlocked only DF Awakening but could not achieve Adv CoC.
Katakuri has both Conqueror Haki and a DF, unlocked only DF Awakening but could not achieve Adv CoC.
Kidd has both Conqueror Haki and a DF, unlocked only DF Awakening but, up to now, could still not achieve Adv CoC.
Never seen the opposite.
It seems that characters like Crocodile and Perospero, who are in the lowest tier of YCs, also achieved DF Awakening. While the "weakest" character to have Adv CoC is Yamato, someone who is at least as strong as YC1s, most likely even stronger.
Plus Kaido hyping Adv CoC as the gimmick of the top tiers "only a handful of the strongest can".
To me it seems clear that on a world panorama Adv CoC > Awakening.
Nika Nika/Gomu Gomu and also Ope Ope aren't your standard DFs, you can't use them as standard for Awakening.
So I'd say that it is something like this:
Nika Nika Awakening > Advanced Conqueror > or >= Top DFs Awakening >> Average DFs Awakening.
You can't compare the main character's DF Awakening of a special DF with all his shenanigans and what not, as if it was the usual standard for any DF Awakening. The Gomu Gomu/Nika Nika is something extremely special (the Ope Ope is as well not your average DF). Most Devil Fruits can't hold that standard.
While, on the other side, you need a minimum starting level to unlock Advanced Conqueror Haki.
Doflamingo has both Conqueror Haki and a DF, unlocked only DF Awakening but could not achieve Adv CoC.
Katakuri has both Conqueror Haki and a DF, unlocked only DF Awakening but could not achieve Adv CoC.
Kidd has both Conqueror Haki and a DF, unlocked only DF Awakening but, up to now, could still not achieve Adv CoC.
Never seen the opposite.
It seems that characters like Crocodile and Perospero, who are in the lowest tier of YCs, also achieved DF Awakening. While the "weakest" character to have Adv CoC is Yamato, someone who is at least as strong as YC1s, most likely even stronger.
Plus Kaido hyping Adv CoC as the gimmick of the top tiers "only a handful of the strongest can".
To me it seems clear that on a world panorama Adv CoC > Awakening.
Nika Nika/Gomu Gomu and also Ope Ope aren't your standard DFs, you can't use them as standard for Awakening.
There are levels to awakening and conqueror's haki. CoC has better portrayal but nothing is absolute. All CoC's portrayal indicates is that CoC has more potential than DFs.
In all likelihood, I think gura gura no mi awakening will completely shit on CoC coating and Luffy will need to unlock the ultimate level of haki in order to beat Teach. he'll need the thing Roger had(whatever it was) to equal WB.
In all likelihood, I think gura gura no mi awakening will completely shit on CoC coating and Luffy will need to unlock the ultimate level of haki in order to beat Teach. he'll need the thing Roger had(whatever it was) to equal WB.
If kaido does not have awakening himself, his statement would be invalid as 2-3 of the next final villains are or would be reliant on devil fruits so he is in no position to talk about devil fruits if he doesn’t even have awakening
1. Bb would be obviously stronger than him and he would be df reliant
2. Akainu if he fights luffy would have his df highlighted above his haki
3. And imu looks like someone who would have an op df
1. Bb would be obviously stronger than him and he would be df reliant
2. Akainu if he fights luffy would have his df highlighted above his haki
3. And imu looks like someone who would have an op df