Sorry to break this one... Yes Zoro was handicapped. But so was Sanji and other SHs in their fight.
Sanji against Kurobi... He went for Luffy diving into the water knowing he is in a disadvantaged.
Sanji vs Mr. is the Nami gag. After it he finished it fast
Against Jabra he was washed before by Kalifla
Against Absalom he needed to protect Nami
Against Oars he already had a stab in his rips because of Absalom
Against Vergo... And no I don't think he would won after all... Bis body was damaged before by CC as it was pointed out.
Against Doflamingo he had no clue about his DF... Same as Luffy round 1 had no clue and was beaten in a similar manner.
Against Judge... Judge used dirty tricks and the nicest guy couldn't overcome it with his character and also with his trauma of the past
Against Queen... He was beaten before on his own stupid reasons by Black Maria... Tried to stop both Queen and King on the same time.
Don't get me wrong. Zoro if handicapped, he is most of the time more handicapped. But on the other hand most of the time he needs longer for his fights as Sanji needs
Sanji against Kurobi... He went for Luffy diving into the water knowing he is in a disadvantaged.
Sanji vs Mr. is the Nami gag. After it he finished it fast
Against Jabra he was washed before by Kalifla
Against Absalom he needed to protect Nami
Against Oars he already had a stab in his rips because of Absalom
Against Vergo... And no I don't think he would won after all... Bis body was damaged before by CC as it was pointed out.
Against Doflamingo he had no clue about his DF... Same as Luffy round 1 had no clue and was beaten in a similar manner.
Against Judge... Judge used dirty tricks and the nicest guy couldn't overcome it with his character and also with his trauma of the past
Against Queen... He was beaten before on his own stupid reasons by Black Maria... Tried to stop both Queen and King on the same time.
Don't get me wrong. Zoro if handicapped, he is most of the time more handicapped. But on the other hand most of the time he needs longer for his fights as Sanji needs
Sanji has never been a rival to Zoro. What would he rival him in?
Sanji wants to cook and find the all blue while Zoro is training to be WSS.
Sanji is a martial artist Zoro is a swordsman.
Zoro is literally Luffys first mate Sanji is Luffys chef.
This isn’t any shade to Sanji but you can’t rival someone who you don’t have the same goal as.
Sanji wants to cook and find the all blue while Zoro is training to be WSS.
Sanji is a martial artist Zoro is a swordsman.
Zoro is literally Luffys first mate Sanji is Luffys chef.
This isn’t any shade to Sanji but you can’t rival someone who you don’t have the same goal as.
In arlong park sanji was worried about arlong's power while arlong was worried about Zoro.
This right there is their established difference in strength but people overlook this, while at the very beginning oda put those two as the strongest men he also set the difference between them.
Vergo was indeed stronger than monet but sanji only helped to hype vergo and nothing more.
About kaku and jabra, we don't know if kaku grow stronger in his human form after the df.
What we do know is that kaku after the df could cut the tower in half while janra never showed something like this and jabra and swordless kaku, tried to get rid of zoro and they didn't even damage him, while kaku with swords corner zoro.
As far as sanji has easier fights, it wasn't against jabra for example, it was against mr2 or against Queen before their pu's.
Those two fights cannot be compared with Zoro's, not even a tiny bit.
It is one thing to fight someone that has an advantage over you but you can hurt him and a complete different story to fight against people that you cannot even scratch them.
I never understood why people confuse this, maybe intentionally i dont know but those fights cannot be compared with each other and the same applies to Luffy's fights ofc.
This right there is their established difference in strength but people overlook this, while at the very beginning oda put those two as the strongest men he also set the difference between them.
Vergo was indeed stronger than monet but sanji only helped to hype vergo and nothing more.
About kaku and jabra, we don't know if kaku grow stronger in his human form after the df.
What we do know is that kaku after the df could cut the tower in half while janra never showed something like this and jabra and swordless kaku, tried to get rid of zoro and they didn't even damage him, while kaku with swords corner zoro.
As far as sanji has easier fights, it wasn't against jabra for example, it was against mr2 or against Queen before their pu's.
Those two fights cannot be compared with Zoro's, not even a tiny bit.
It is one thing to fight someone that has an advantage over you but you can hurt him and a complete different story to fight against people that you cannot even scratch them.
I never understood why people confuse this, maybe intentionally i dont know but those fights cannot be compared with each other and the same applies to Luffy's fights ofc.
-first of all, sanji is nothing but a minor inconvenience for zoro.
-second of all, zoro is astronomically better written than sanji.
-they don't share a common ambition. other than making luffy the PK which in that case they cooperate according to zoro's requests.
-their paths toward strength are fundamentally contrasting:
+zoro being a natural born human is always on a journey of attaining strength and transcending his human limitations and he hates and blames himself for his occasional lack of skill and for his human weaknesses.
+sanji on the other hand is lab-created superhuman with a plot required error that makes his powers dormant for the sake of story progression, the awakening of his powers was just a matter of time, he even hates the source of his strength, and blames his family for every part in it.
-here's what sanji supposed to do just to catch up with his siblings (for a human to become a superhuman):
train a hundred times harder than anybody.
instead he just needed to run away from all his problems and wear a raid suit three times:
-while zoro trains harder than anybody, yet he always hits the wall of his human limitations and thus he suffers even harder to surpass them with his willpower and strength of spirit:
-zoro and luffy have the spear of grit and the will to survive and live.
-sanji lacks that completely, he's quick to give up, and he doesn't value his life.
-zoro has the guts to always do and say what is right and he always enforces his will accordingly.
-sanji always just go along with the flow, and let the circumstances overcome him.
-zoro respects and sympathises with his opponents, he fights honorably, and his opponents are respectable and honorable warriors.
-sanji always fights dirty, sneak attacks, and his opponents are most of the time perverted clowns that don't deserve respect.
-finally: sanji tried to sneak attack zoro on their first beef, and failed miserably.
conclusion:
-zoro is clear.
-sanji is a clown.
-second of all, zoro is astronomically better written than sanji.
-they don't share a common ambition. other than making luffy the PK which in that case they cooperate according to zoro's requests.
-their paths toward strength are fundamentally contrasting:
+zoro being a natural born human is always on a journey of attaining strength and transcending his human limitations and he hates and blames himself for his occasional lack of skill and for his human weaknesses.
+sanji on the other hand is lab-created superhuman with a plot required error that makes his powers dormant for the sake of story progression, the awakening of his powers was just a matter of time, he even hates the source of his strength, and blames his family for every part in it.
-here's what sanji supposed to do just to catch up with his siblings (for a human to become a superhuman):
train a hundred times harder than anybody.
-zoro and luffy have the spear of grit and the will to survive and live.
-sanji lacks that completely, he's quick to give up, and he doesn't value his life.
-zoro has the guts to always do and say what is right and he always enforces his will accordingly.
-sanji always just go along with the flow, and let the circumstances overcome him.
-zoro respects and sympathises with his opponents, he fights honorably, and his opponents are respectable and honorable warriors.
-sanji always fights dirty, sneak attacks, and his opponents are most of the time perverted clowns that don't deserve respect.
-finally: sanji tried to sneak attack zoro on their first beef, and failed miserably.
conclusion:
-zoro is clear.
-sanji is a clown.
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-first of all, sanji is nothing but a minor inconvenience for zoro.
-second of all, zoro is astronomically better written than sanji.
-they don't share a common ambition. other than making luffy the PK which in that case they cooperate according to zoro's requests.
-their paths toward strength are fundamentally contrasting:
+zoro being a natural born human is always on a journey of attaining strength and transcending his human limitations and he hates and blames himself for his occasional lack of skill and for his human weaknesses.
+sanji on the other hand is lab-created superhuman with a plot required error that makes his powers dormant for the sake of story progression, the awakening of his powers was just a matter of time, he even hates the source of his strength, and blames his family for every part in it.
-here's what sanji supposed to do just to catch up with his siblings (for a human to become a superhuman):
train a hundred times harder than anybody.
instead he just needed to run away from all his problems and wear a raid suit three times:
-while zoro trains harder than anybody, yet he always hits the wall of his human limitations and thus he suffers even harder to surpass them with his willpower and strength of spirit:
-zoro and luffy have the spear of grit and the will to survive and live.
-sanji lacks that completely, he's quick to give up, and he doesn't value his life.
-zoro has the guts to always do and say what is right and he always enforces his will accordingly.
-sanji always just go along with the flow, and let the circumstances overcome him.
-zoro respects and sympathises with his opponents, he fights honorably, and his opponents are respectable and honorable warriors.
-sanji always fights dirty, sneak attacks, and his opponents are most of the time perverted clowns that don't deserve respect.
-finally: sanji tried to sneak attack zoro on their first beef, and failed miserably.
conclusion:
-zoro is clear.
-sanji is a clown.
-second of all, zoro is astronomically better written than sanji.
-they don't share a common ambition. other than making luffy the PK which in that case they cooperate according to zoro's requests.
-their paths toward strength are fundamentally contrasting:
+zoro being a natural born human is always on a journey of attaining strength and transcending his human limitations and he hates and blames himself for his occasional lack of skill and for his human weaknesses.
+sanji on the other hand is lab-created superhuman with a plot required error that makes his powers dormant for the sake of story progression, the awakening of his powers was just a matter of time, he even hates the source of his strength, and blames his family for every part in it.
-here's what sanji supposed to do just to catch up with his siblings (for a human to become a superhuman):
train a hundred times harder than anybody.
-zoro and luffy have the spear of grit and the will to survive and live.
-sanji lacks that completely, he's quick to give up, and he doesn't value his life.
-zoro has the guts to always do and say what is right and he always enforces his will accordingly.
-sanji always just go along with the flow, and let the circumstances overcome him.
-zoro respects and sympathises with his opponents, he fights honorably, and his opponents are respectable and honorable warriors.
-sanji always fights dirty, sneak attacks, and his opponents are most of the time perverted clowns that don't deserve respect.
-finally: sanji tried to sneak attack zoro on their first beef, and failed miserably.
conclusion:
-zoro is clear.
-sanji is a clown.
dude what are u on about? it showed bond they have shaped in every tough battle but not in same way a rivalry is created.
read particular chapter when luffy said to kid and law about his goal and how it drives both party crazily thats how a rivalry was made.
read particular chapter when luffy said to kid and law about his goal and how it drives both party crazily thats how a rivalry was made.
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Zoro fans literally ignoring.
Who are the two greatest rivals in the manga?
Yeah the two Giants Who fought FOR DECADES EQUALLY.
Who has a parallel with them? YEAH ZORO AND SANJI.
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Fights commanders never the boss -> Zoro and Sanji
Their duo has an official name -> the wings again
Have parallel with the two greatest rivals in the manga, the 2 Giants -> Zoro and Sanji
Called Stars -> Zoro and Sanji
Are always paired together -> Zoro and Sanji
Zoro's jealous of Sanji so he says he's worthy the double of him etc.
Man, even if you read One piece on shueisha or mangaplus you can see a banner with Luffy, Zoro and Sanji doing a race, Luffy being on top followed by them on equal foot.
Who are the two greatest rivals in the manga?
Yeah the two Giants Who fought FOR DECADES EQUALLY.
Who has a parallel with them? YEAH ZORO AND SANJI.
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:cheers:
Their duo has an official name -> the wings again
Have parallel with the two greatest rivals in the manga, the 2 Giants -> Zoro and Sanji
Called Stars -> Zoro and Sanji
Are always paired together -> Zoro and Sanji
Zoro's jealous of Sanji so he says he's worthy the double of him etc.
Man, even if you read One piece on shueisha or mangaplus you can see a banner with Luffy, Zoro and Sanji doing a race, Luffy being on top followed by them on equal foot.
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