Powers & Abilities 102 confirms Zoro is not VC nor is he second strongest.

Necrohol

Necrohol

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hayze moya said:
Make a thread about Sanji's greatness? no. Why? Because the thread will be empty since Sanji doesn't have any good moments. So let's create a thread about Zoro and downplay him to make him seem on par with sanji.:pepecopium::pepecopium:
But don't worry, nothing will overshadow the greatness of the grandmaster:finally::finally:
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Zoro is a one-dimensional badass. Perfect for people with low IQ. Sanji has depth that most Zoro fans cannot understand. Cope.
 
mrtsrdr

mrtsrdr

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#64
Oda dont cares these shit . Why do we care .ddd

zoro is vc zoro is strongest okey . So what .ddd odas only love is luffy and rest is cat and dog fight between zoro and sanji club .dddd

at least , with this way , nobody say that zoro is stronger or close luffy haahahah
 
Embers Kaios

Embers Kaios

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Chrono said:
Hey flops, yes im talking about you Zoro fans that have the interpretation skills of a child. Need help ? Alright.


The Question


Hello Odacchi, judging from the color spread of chapter 1031, Bepo is the No.2 of Heart Pirates?! I was surprised since I thought him, Penguin, and Shachi are all No.2s. So is Bepo (sulong form?) the strongest out of them?


Firstly you can see, the reader asks 2 questions.

Question 1
"Hello Odacchi, judging from the color spread of chapter 1031, Bepo is the No.2 of Heart Pirates?!"

Question 2
I was surprised since I thought him, Penguin, and Shachi are all No.2s. So is Bepo (sulong form?) the strongest out of them?


Most fans embrassingly interpreted Oda speaking about the colourspread in terms of strength. Contray....before this SBS was released, most fans were under the consensus that it shows Vice Captains. Oda outright debunks this...so they change goalposts and say it depicts the second strongest.

This is infactual. Why ? Because of the basis of the question and the way Oda answered.

Oda wasnt answering why Bepo was on the Colourspread. He was answering who was stronger between Bepo and the other 2 fodders.

As you can see the question was asked here.

"I was surprised since I thought him, Penguin, and Shachi are all No.2s. So is Bepo (sulong form?) the strongest out of them?"

Then Oda answered it.
"Penguin and Shachi are more reliable in normal circumstances, but those two have seen Bepo's sulong transformation, so they acknowledge that "combat wise Bepo is superior!""

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And whilst Oda outright blantently confimed Zoro isnt VC or RHM...he also never stated zero inkling about whether it was about strength. Again a stupid fan interpretation that uses Oda's second answer against him. And to further this point....Bepo himself isnt even the second strongest. He is weaker than Jean Bart...shown pre timeskip with Jean having better feats. However of course Bepo is put there because hes literally a fraud and no different than Usopp



This literally no different to Burgess being above Shiryu.
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So yes flops,

- Oda has confirmed that not all are Vice Captains.
- And that he picked between No 2.'s of each crews ( crews that have multiple) to make appearence. Meaning he doesnt really show a specific view on heiarchy
- And since Bepo was picked instead of Jean....it also doesnt show the second strongest.

Best of all....Zoro bought his way into the Colourspread, because it was his colourspread. And he wouldve always been in it regardless of it being swordsman or this.

Either way the highlight for me was how quick Oda was to deny it. That he deffo didnt want no one to get the wrong idea lmao.

"Same goes for Zoro, not everyone on there holds the position of vice captain"

"Same goes for Zoro, not everyone on there holds the position of vice captain"

"Same goes for Zoro, not everyone on there holds the position of vice captain"
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I ALWAYS KNEW ZORO WAS A FRAUD LMFAOOO
 
Lunaria

Lunaria

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I don't understand, you've used a piece of information that literally confirms Zoro is second strongest to claim he isn't ?

Jean Bart being stronger than Bepo is your baseless headcanon which is directly contradicted by Oda himself. Whether Jean Bart has better feats or not (which I'm not convinced he does), you're conveniently ignoring Sulong Bepo in the equation. And Oda literally calling him the second strongest leaves no room for interpretation, yet you're denying it just because you feel like Jean Bart is stronger. If we can deny anything the author outright stated just because we "feel like" the manga shows something else then we can deny literally everything and the author's words become meaningless.
 
Franosuke

Franosuke

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What are you talking about?

He confirmed that not everyone in the spread is officially a VC, and that includes Zoro. It's FUCKING COMMON KNOWLEDGE that the Straw Hats have no official Vice Captain.

It was OBVIOUS from the start that the color spread was a showcase of the SECOND STRONGEST crew members. Anyone who thought otherwise was stupid.

This SBS literally confirms EXACTLY THAT: not VCs, but second-strongest. Shut the fuck up and stop being a bitch about it. Oda literally explained that Shachi and Penguin admit combat inferiority to Bepo, which is why he was on that spread.
 
Colt Buntline

Colt Buntline

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Lunaria said:
a piece of information that literally confirms Zoro is second strongest
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No, it literally does not; That's your baseless assumption.

All Oda did was to:
1) Confirm that Zoro, along with others in the colourspread, is not necessarily the vice-captain.
2) Explain that he picked up (not "picked out"; that translation is wrong) those no.2s arbitrarily (implying that there was no specific rule in the choice).
3)Proceed to answer the second question, which was about whether or not Bepo is stronger than Penguin and Shachi in his Sulong form; And the answer is that both of them are more reliable in normal circumstances, but that due to having seen Bepo in his Sulong form they recognize that they can't match Bepo in terms of strength in battle (戦力的にベポには敵わん), which means that they are overall stronger than Bepo, since it's only with very specific conditions (night time with a full moon to be seen) that Bepo is stronger than them.
Yeah, once again, the English translation is wrong; Penguin and Shachi never recognized that "combat wise Bepo is superior".

And literally there's no direct connection between the answer for the second question and the answer for the first; A link between the two things is just your baseless assumption.

There's a period between the two answers, marking a separation between the two, and after Oda had already refuted the person's misconception that the characters in the cover are the vice-captains of each crew, and had also implied that there may be more than one No.2 in each crew, since he didn't deny the person's assumption that Penguin, Shachi, and Bepo are all No.2s, and also admitted that his choice of picking up those No.2s (implying that he picked a No.2 from each crew among other No.2s) had been arbitrary.


Also, saying that Jean Bart is in fact stronger than Bepo in Sulong form is just an assumption; But saying that Jean Bart may be stronger than Bepo in his Sulong form is not just an assumption, but a truth, because the question and the answer in that SBS were just comparing Penguin, Shachi, and Bepo in his Sulong form, without including the rest of the crew in the comparison;
Only those two acknowledged that they can't match Bepo's strength in battle in his Sulong form; Jean Bart has not acknowledged anything like that, so it's still arguable that Jean Bart may be stronger than Penguin, Shachi, and Bepo even in his Sulong form, since there's no confirmation of the contrary.
 
Embers Kaios

Embers Kaios

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Franosuke said:
What are you talking about?

He confirmed that not everyone in the spread is officially a VC, and that includes Zoro. It's FUCKING COMMON KNOWLEDGE that the Straw Hats have no official Vice Captain.

It was OBVIOUS from the start that the color spread was a showcase of the SECOND STRONGEST crew members. Anyone who thought otherwise was stupid.

This SBS literally confirms EXACTLY THAT: not VCs, but second-strongest. Shut the fuck up and stop being a bitch about it. Oda literally explained that Shachi and Penguin admit combat inferiority to Bepo, which is why he was on that spread.
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Sheesh man….you good?
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Superior to you said:
RETARD
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That’s not nice man
 
hayze moya

hayze moya

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Necrohol said:
Zoro is a one-dimensional badass. Perfect for people with low IQ. Sanji has depth that most Zoro fans cannot understand. Cope.
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If that's how you think about Zoro, then you've been reading the manga with your eyes closed. Zoro's character development occurs throughout the manga, Zoro develops along with Luffy rather than in one particular arc. You are the one who is coping here
 
Franosuke

Franosuke

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Wildfire Kaios said:
Sheesh man….you good?
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I'm alright, it just pisses me off that some people say the dumbest shit and act like they know what they're talking about and genuinely take themselves seriously

The majority of Sanji fans are not like that at all and it's sad that people are gonna come back in the future to talk shit about the whole fanbase when it's just a couple of people spewing bullshit

Most people complain about trolls but it's the people with garbage takes who actually believe what they say who ruin the reputation of a fanbase
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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What the fuck are you talking about, Bepo has always been portrayed as Law's right hand man, he even says Jean Barte is under him in the panel you posted, lmao.

Also, just because Jean Barte is physically stronger doesn't mean he can actually defeat Bepo in combat. Bepo has electro, since he is a mink. He is also a proficient martial artist and has su long form.
 
bennbeckman

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Broreo said:
If people still think zoro aint the second strongest they gotta be trolling, stupid or ignorant af... maybe all 3 of them:whitepress:
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All 3
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Sanji D Cook said:
Zoro is a wing. Sanji is a wing. Zoro is 2a in strength on the SH crew. Sanji is 2b in strength on the SH crew. They are the same. Feelings were truly shattered when Oda stated the obvious that there was no Vice captain or RHM on the SH crew.
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No one thinks that but you and the other 9 die hard Sanji stans who refuse to accept facts

1.Luffy
2.Zoro
3.Sanji
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Mummykun said:
We just know that Sanji is stronger than Zoro because we're not illiterate.
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It's a serious thread;
Most people in this forum are allowing themselves to be misled by some bad translation, especially since it's convenient for their false belief about Zoro's strength, and only a minority of good readers are seriously trying to understand properly what exactly Oda meant with his answers considering what exactly were the two questions that were asked to him in that SBS.
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You 10 are just ignorant

So just you and the other 9 die hard Sanji stans who refuse to accept facts when everyone else even the not as die hard Sanji stans litersally mention Zoro is the second strongest
 
Embers Kaios

Embers Kaios

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bennbeckman said:
All 3
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No one thinks that but you and the other 9 die hard Sanji stans who refuse to accept facts

1.Luffy
2.Zoro
3.Sanji
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You 10 are just ignorant

So just you and the other 9 die hard Sanji stans who refuse to accept facts when everyone else even the not as die hard Sanji stans litersally mention Zoro is the second strongest
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Yeah whatever you say victim complex guy
 
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