Powers & Abilities As a Black Blade, Enma Will Absorb the Opponent's Ryuo Rather Than Zoro's
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His opponent already has to overcome some of his abilities, it's only natural that as his strength increases there's more for the opponent to overcome. What expectations for Zoro's fights do you have lol? Are you pissed that Luffy Law and Kidd awakened, since they should have to overcome things not their opponents?
Oda gave swords wills and personalities, not me. I'm just working with what he's writing, rather than denying certain aspects of swords because I don't like it.
"Stop comparing him to DF users"? I was only using your criteria of hero-type characters as an example. So it's ok for Luffy's opponents to have to 'overcome' his various abilities but not Zoro's? And to justify that you've used the one and only difference between the characters I mentioned and Zoro, being that they have devil fruits. Fine, why do Sanji's opponents have to overcome his exoskeleton but Zoro's opponents shouldn't have to overcome any of his abilities?
"Stop comparing him to DF users"? I was only using your criteria of hero-type characters as an example. So it's ok for Luffy's opponents to have to 'overcome' his various abilities but not Zoro's? And to justify that you've used the one and only difference between the characters I mentioned and Zoro, being that they have devil fruits. Fine, why do Sanji's opponents have to overcome his exoskeleton but Zoro's opponents shouldn't have to overcome any of his abilities?
Literally anything that hinders your opponents or makes it harder for them to win is something to overcome. It's not a guaranteed thing that Zoro would be able to weaken his opponent. Like any other ability, certain conditions have to be met. You're assuming in this scenario Zoro can steal opponent's haki at will, I only mean he could if they're weak enough to allow it.
Brook can make his enemies fall asleep, so that isn't true I'm afraid. Can't Luffy also change his opponent's body with his power too? We're moving into the endgame of the story, powers as we've seen are getting more and more ridiculous, have a more open mind. You're acting like it's such an op ability when we saw a power like this in alabasta
Brook can make his enemies fall asleep, so that isn't true I'm afraid. Can't Luffy also change his opponent's body with his power too? We're moving into the endgame of the story, powers as we've seen are getting more and more ridiculous, have a more open mind. You're acting like it's such an op ability when we saw a power like this in alabasta
Ah, then surely it depends on how Oda handles the ability, no? Besides, like I said, if his enemy can't handle not making contact with one of his blades then they aren't strong enough to beat Zoro. And why? It's because this would make Zoro more powerful. Simple. Just like Luffy wasn't strong enough to beat crocodile until he found a way around it. Or how Zoro wasn't strong enough to beat King until he learned his speed/defence forms.
There's no 'meant to be stronger than him', there's just those weaker than Zoro, and those stronger than Zoro. You mean that with this powerup Zoro would become stronger than some opponents who were previously stronger than him. That's how power-ups work. This is a black blade we're talking about here, it will have been earned.
There's no 'meant to be stronger than him', there's just those weaker than Zoro, and those stronger than Zoro. You mean that with this powerup Zoro would become stronger than some opponents who were previously stronger than him. That's how power-ups work. This is a black blade we're talking about here, it will have been earned.
Zoro doesn't need a sword that can absorb his opponent's haki. Swordsmanship is already one of the strongest fighting styles in the manga and has the potential to be the strongest.
Giving a sword that power is turning a sword into a DF. We already know you can add DF powers to a sword so that is not necessary.
What's a stronger defense than a sword that can't be broken? A swordsman with a black blade has the potential to have an unbreakable defense.
I've talked about the potential a swordsman has from creating and possessing a black blade in another post.
Here it is:
Combine with the Pinnacle of swordsmanship, the ability to cut anything, and they are a walking irresistible force paradox. A sword that can cut anything vs a shield that can't be broken. With that power who can stop them.
I still don't think people truly understand the potential swordsman have One Piece.
Giving a sword that power is turning a sword into a DF. We already know you can add DF powers to a sword so that is not necessary.
What's a stronger defense than a sword that can't be broken? A swordsman with a black blade has the potential to have an unbreakable defense.
I've talked about the potential a swordsman has from creating and possessing a black blade in another post.
Here it is:
Combine with the Pinnacle of swordsmanship, the ability to cut anything, and they are a walking irresistible force paradox. A sword that can cut anything vs a shield that can't be broken. With that power who can stop them.
I still don't think people truly understand the potential swordsman have One Piece.
I'm hopeful it shall be superlativeOk and ?
Luffy's powers still dont nerf his opponents. That plot did.
Secondly just cause its happened doesnt mean its good writing. Youve effectively brought out the worse moments in OP combat. Youve literally proved the point that Zoro having this ability would just be as bad as those scenarios. Clown ass.
Luffy's powers still dont nerf his opponents. That plot did.
Secondly just cause its happened doesnt mean its good writing. Youve effectively brought out the worse moments in OP combat. Youve literally proved the point that Zoro having this ability would just be as bad as those scenarios. Clown ass.
Zoro already has a sword that absorbs haki. If you don't want at least one of Zoro's swords to behave as though it's alive that ship's sailed I'm afraid. There's an opportunity for real depth and lore to be added to one of the most popular fighting styles in the story and you'd rather black blades to just be a stronger material? There's no way this unique disposition in blades stuff is ending here, and if that means a few characters in the entire story get further abilities is that such a bad thing?
That being said you are right, swordsmen have the privilege that few other types of fighters have as they can typically one-shot their opponent. But that doesn't change the fact that Zoro isn't at all versatile outside of that, black blades being unbreakable isn't helpful as armament at Zoro's level achieves that already.
For what you say about Zoro/swordsmen to be true their opponent has to have only defence, he could barely handle fighting onimaru and killer at once so what good is the ability to cut anything. You say a black blade is the best defence, yet Zoro isn't able to block every attack with his swords so who cares, is my line of thinking.
What powerups do you see Zoro having in his future, aside from the obvious haki improvements. How do you imagine his and Mihawk's last fight looking like? Oda rarely has Zoro's matchup end up as just a slashing contest, all of his big fights have another dimension to them.
That being said you are right, swordsmen have the privilege that few other types of fighters have as they can typically one-shot their opponent. But that doesn't change the fact that Zoro isn't at all versatile outside of that, black blades being unbreakable isn't helpful as armament at Zoro's level achieves that already.
For what you say about Zoro/swordsmen to be true their opponent has to have only defence, he could barely handle fighting onimaru and killer at once so what good is the ability to cut anything. You say a black blade is the best defence, yet Zoro isn't able to block every attack with his swords so who cares, is my line of thinking.
What powerups do you see Zoro having in his future, aside from the obvious haki improvements. How do you imagine his and Mihawk's last fight looking like? Oda rarely has Zoro's matchup end up as just a slashing contest, all of his big fights have another dimension to them.
At the end of the day the best fights come when the opponent isnt nerfed and are at full power. This allows the protagonist to have a real challenge. This ability ruins that.
If this ability only works on weaklings its literally as useless as Base CoC used to be. Just a fodder clearing power. Who tf cares.
If this ability only works on weaklings its literally as useless as Base CoC used to be. Just a fodder clearing power. Who tf cares.