General & Others What actually happened to Oda?
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It's really not. I binged One Piece up to Dressrosa the first time. I rewatched it when it was up to WCI the 2nd time, and re-read all of Post-skip for the 3rd (while revisiting different sections since then).
There's a noticeable difference in quality. It may not be as exaggerated as some people try to make it out to be, like it's gone from gold to garbage. That's just silly. A lot of the problems with Oda's writing have definitely been magnified or multiplied post-skip though.
There's a noticeable difference in quality. It may not be as exaggerated as some people try to make it out to be, like it's gone from gold to garbage. That's just silly. A lot of the problems with Oda's writing have definitely been magnified or multiplied post-skip though.
Simple. Post-timeskip literally destroyed the meaning of what One Piece is all about. Pre-timeskip you got the fun adventurous vibe from the Strawhats, their interactions are much more common, there were actual naval battles between pirates and marines, etc.
Now? Strawhats move to each islands and defeats the enemies, then repeats.
Now? Strawhats move to each islands and defeats the enemies, then repeats.
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I feel like so many things people are saying are just excuses that aren't really that true, at least not for the majority of people.
My experience was: binged watched / read One Piece from the start up to Luffy vs Katakuri, that's when i caught up to the story and started following it weekly. I did all of this older already, when i was like 21~22. My life during that time wasn't also amazing, so i'm not making a conection of One Piece being better back then because i had a better life either, there's no nostalgia factor for me.
It feels very objective that once you get past the timeskip, the quality and enjoyment of the series has a significant drop.
If you doubt me, check out the many reactors / reviewers getting into the story right now and you will see how their perspectives change once the timeskip hits.
Most of us loves the Straw Hats, or at least a few of them, and they got completely pushed to the sidelines in the timeskip.
Most of us also loved the simplistc and impactful artstyle and paneling of Pre-TS One Piece, that is gone now, Post-TS paneling and art doesn't come close.
There's not much sense of closed adventures in each island anymore, every island feels like it's conected to the rest of the world or the lore in terms of politics and impact. Pre-TS had a massive feel change from each arc, but Post-TS despite the settings change, most arcs kinda have the same feeling still.
That's some of my opinions.
My experience was: binged watched / read One Piece from the start up to Luffy vs Katakuri, that's when i caught up to the story and started following it weekly. I did all of this older already, when i was like 21~22. My life during that time wasn't also amazing, so i'm not making a conection of One Piece being better back then because i had a better life either, there's no nostalgia factor for me.
It feels very objective that once you get past the timeskip, the quality and enjoyment of the series has a significant drop.
If you doubt me, check out the many reactors / reviewers getting into the story right now and you will see how their perspectives change once the timeskip hits.
Most of us loves the Straw Hats, or at least a few of them, and they got completely pushed to the sidelines in the timeskip.
Most of us also loved the simplistc and impactful artstyle and paneling of Pre-TS One Piece, that is gone now, Post-TS paneling and art doesn't come close.
There's not much sense of closed adventures in each island anymore, every island feels like it's conected to the rest of the world or the lore in terms of politics and impact. Pre-TS had a massive feel change from each arc, but Post-TS despite the settings change, most arcs kinda have the same feeling still.
That's some of my opinions.
i just re read 1044 and 1045 n 1046 one piece for third time n more i binge more i never see "peak comedy or peak fiction " that reddit or r/onepiece Boast about .... it feels like watching batman film where joker suddenly develop mr mylxptz power and bonking batman with giant mallet in looney tunes 
so no binge reading or re read NOT MAKE QUALITY IMPROVE. Sorry to say one piece quality has been drown ... yes we can hope MAYBE After wano oda will fix everything maybe the quality will improve again gonna wait n see ... wait n see
so no binge reading or re read NOT MAKE QUALITY IMPROVE. Sorry to say one piece quality has been drown ... yes we can hope MAYBE After wano oda will fix everything maybe the quality will improve again gonna wait n see ... wait n see
Imo post time skip is every bit as good. I didn't catch up until the end of WCI, and I didn't notice any difference in quality. Wano has been less intruiging just because the wait between chapters completely kills the pacing. But recently I binged Wano up to the current chapter and loved it. Only thing I didn't like is the extemded focus on arc characters at the expence of the strawhats' screen time. Imo it's mostly the difference between reading weekly and spending time on forums, or just reading the manga all at once, with a little bit of nostalgia bias.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the problem is Wano. All the most relevant characters and plotlines are set to take place afterwards, so things will be better then.
Just don't lose hope. I didn't think things will get this bad in Wano, but I have to believe that the stuff afterwards will just be better. There's just no way that Oda can drop the ball on that stuff. Wano has just been an unsuccessful freestyling stage.
Just don't lose hope. I didn't think things will get this bad in Wano, but I have to believe that the stuff afterwards will just be better. There's just no way that Oda can drop the ball on that stuff. Wano has just been an unsuccessful freestyling stage.
Think Pre-Ts more fun is ok. Of course reading/watching after YS, the arcs are huge, there are many more characters being worked on in each arc, since Punk Hazard we live a super saga, One Piece has become a different manga, it's not the same thing as before. But to say that the story is worse is delusional IMO. The story is more complex, less childish, the characters are better, the villains are much better, the universe is wider as it is no longer random, there is Yonko and all its systems, due to Oden's flashback we know how vast, the manga art has improved, the author's creativity has improved in terms of designing the locations, the powers are better and more complex with consequently infinitely better fights. Honestly, for me before TS One Piece it was an ordinary shounen with protagonists having a dream and defeating anyone, after Marineford and two years after the story we see how the work has evolved. You may prefer before, but to say history hasn't improved is ignorance.
I agree that the Strawhats haven't gotten enough spotlight in Wano, but this is mainly an issue with Wano and not post-TS as a whole. Like, Punk Hazard spent a lot of time just showing the crew goof off. Franky and Usopp got some solid moments throughout Dressrosa. Wholecake Island gave great moments to Brook, Nami, and Sanji.
1 arc doesn't represent all of post-TS dude.
This only applies to Jaya/Skypiea and the East Blue.
Alabasta, Thriller Bark, Water 7/Enies Lobby, and the Paramount War were not closed adventures by any stretch of the imagination.
1 arc doesn't represent all of post-TS dude.
This only applies to Jaya/Skypiea and the East Blue.
Alabasta, Thriller Bark, Water 7/Enies Lobby, and the Paramount War were not closed adventures by any stretch of the imagination.
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All i'm saying is this
Think of your favorite One Piece moments, like your top 5
I'm guessing either 4 or 3 of those are Pre-TS
Post-TS has great stuff, but it's not even close to being as memorable
Think of your favorite One Piece moments, like your top 5
I'm guessing either 4 or 3 of those are Pre-TS
- "I want to live"
- "Nothing happened"
- "Sogeking, shoot down that flag"
- "Luffy, help me"
- "Thanks, i needed a light"
- "Luffy, thank you for loving me"
- "I promise to never lose again"
- "People's dreams never end"
- "When does a man die? When he is hit by a bullet? No! When he suffers a disease? No! When he ate a soup made out of a poisonous mushroom? No! A man dies when he is forgotten!"
Post-TS has great stuff, but it's not even close to being as memorable
It is no ONLY longer a children's story where the protagonist saves the island or performs rescue operations. Now everything fits together and has a purpose. Ever since Punk Hazard and the alliance formed with Law and the goal of taking down Kaido we knew it would be like this. Everything that happens in Wano was planned in Punk Hazard in 2012.
One of the answers I find for people not to like post TS is anxiety. We know Luffy's goals in the New World and what he came for (defeating Blackbeard and taking down WG) but we are in a super Saga that started in Punk Hazard and will only end in Wano. The arcs are super extended, there is a plethora of characters and story filling, the fights take a LONG time and are always cut for Oda to show everything that happens chronologically in the arc. It ends up getting boring to follow and I won't deny it. But again I repeat, this does not mean that the story has gotten worse. When One Piece ends, at least I'll think that all the effort Oda put into this super saga was worth it.
One of the answers I find for people not to like post TS is anxiety. We know Luffy's goals in the New World and what he came for (defeating Blackbeard and taking down WG) but we are in a super Saga that started in Punk Hazard and will only end in Wano. The arcs are super extended, there is a plethora of characters and story filling, the fights take a LONG time and are always cut for Oda to show everything that happens chronologically in the arc. It ends up getting boring to follow and I won't deny it. But again I repeat, this does not mean that the story has gotten worse. When One Piece ends, at least I'll think that all the effort Oda put into this super saga was worth it.
I don't think its that simple, maybe you just started getting older, and reading it weekly
Im 100% sure people would shit on Oda if he gave us something like the Foxy arc in the post-ts LoL
There are a few things that might have gotten worse, like the amount of side characters and the screentime they get post-ts, but most of these side characters are also better than the pre-ts ones. So with that we got less screentime for the main characters, something that the pre-ts didn't do cuz the pre-ts used to be all about the Strawhats for the most past
Im 100% sure people would shit on Oda if he gave us something like the Foxy arc in the post-ts LoL
There are a few things that might have gotten worse, like the amount of side characters and the screentime they get post-ts, but most of these side characters are also better than the pre-ts ones. So with that we got less screentime for the main characters, something that the pre-ts didn't do cuz the pre-ts used to be all about the Strawhats for the most past
Of course, Wano already has 140 chapters and it should be about 20 more to finish, if Oda detailed the fights and showed them complete, literally 5 Supernovas vs 2 Yonko would still be happening. But you deny that the fight plots aren't much better and more exciting? Will you deny that the powers and abilities aren't much better and more complex? Luffy and the rest are finally challenging the top, ever since their announcement in Walter 7 we've been waiting a long time for this.