[FNZ] Role Madness Game 03: One Piece Dressrosa

[Reborn]

I'd prefer if we didn't lose a townie at this stage especially since i think there is a possibility there is still not only mafia, but an SK going around, but there is one thing i don't understand about you

- Finalbeta 1.0 was a tracker and he didn't have claim restrictions
- It seems like Finalbeta 2.0 is a watcher based on his wordings(Playa, Sentinel visiting you) and didn't have claim restrictions

And i don't think he is lying considering Sentinel confirmed he visited you(while not knowing what visited means at first)

So i don't really see where your role and claim restrictions could fit into this. It feels too inconsistent

It is...

And, it's not claim restrictions but Total restrictions - I can't claim my role,my abilities and my results.

I am not allowed to do anything. Even a slight leak would get me mod killed..

I am a special case....

I made this clear from beginning so I am totally consistent.


Or I can claim and take tac and my other sus down at the cost of losing myself if you guys don't believe me

 

[NeutralWatcher]

It is...

And, it's not claim restrictions but Total restrictions - I can't claim my role,my abilities and my results.

I am not allowed to do anything. Even a slight leak would get me mod killed..

I am a special case....

I made this clear from beginning so I am totally consistent.


Or I can claim and take tac and my other sus down at the cost of losing myself if you guys don't believe me

What is your opinion about Rej yesterday? He Didn't try to defend himself when he was lynched? Is he always like this?

 

[Reborn]

What is your opinion about Rej yesterday? He Didn't try to defend himself when he was lynched? Is he always like this?

He went defensive.... I think he doesn't play well as scum.

His originally play is aggressiveness
All he could do was to hope we Lynch final instead of his place.

 

[NeutralWatcher]

He went defensive.... I think he doesn't play well as scum.

His originally play is aggressiveness
All he could do was to hope we Lynch final instead of his place.

I mean he is an experienced player. Instead of engaging with Final to try to clear himself, he was lying about his role.

 

[Bogard]

It is...

And, it's not claim restrictions but Total restrictions - I can't claim my role,my abilities and my results.

I am not allowed to do anything. Even a slight leak would get me mod killed..

I am a special case....

I made this clear from beginning so I am totally consistent.


Or I can claim and take tac and my other sus down at the cost of losing myself if you guys don't believe me

Let's look at it this way

- Finalbeta 1.0 was a tracker
- Finalbeta 2.0 seems to be a watcher
- Playa was an investigator(if innocent or guilty)
- All_Red could also investigate about a player's alignment

Don't you think it's far-fetched to believe there could be another investigator in a game of 16players(assuming it's your restricted role)?

With that said, i'm interested in your read. You don't need to claim, but just tell who you think is scum or mafia(or indie)

Assuming you're correct, you got 2nights to check out stuff

 

[Noctis]

@Denim isn't reborn saying he's gonna die if he were to claim is claim itself?

 

[Noctis]

@Reborn go ahead and claim

 

[Reborn]

Let's look at it this way

- Finalbeta 1.0 was a tracker
- Finalbeta 2.0 seems to be a watcher
- Playa was an investigator(if innocent or guilty)
- All_Red could also investigate about a player's alignment

Don't you think it's far-fetched to believe there could be another investigator in a game of 16players(assuming it's your restricted role)?

With that said, i'm interested in your read. You don't need to claim, but just tell who you think is scum or mafia(or indie)

Assuming you're correct, you got 2nights to check out stuff

Tac is sure shot scum

Beta 2.0 (from playing safe as pantheos to creating Lynch based on assumptions) ...his argument is full of loophole and sentinel already said I didn't do anything...and, btw do we really know Playa visited me? What if Only sentinel visited me and he added playa who got NKed to make case against me.... his reasons are based on assumptions and we aren't playing game like that

You are sus as well...why? You jumped on final claim and put vote on rej immediately. This is not usual play. Then once flawed was found you backed off from rej and went after final... I see this tactic as distancing yourself from rej and then on right opportunity clinging on to final.....yes you voted rej but everyone did..not much here

Townie- noctis, me, NW, Kiwi, sentinel, Al as well (doubtful on al though especially after that N3 slip)

 

[Reborn]

@Reborn go ahead and claim

If it's alright with you then I can....but you will lose a twonie

 

[Noctis]

If it's alright with you then I can....but you will lose a twonie

The whole thing you're saying that you're gonna die if you're gonna claim is a claim itself

 

[Noctis]

Honestly even if AL claim sounds legit not his actions

 

[Noctis]

@Reborn if you're really telling the truth then you're already dead

 

[Reborn]

The whole thing you're saying that you're gonna die if you're gonna claim is a claim itself

Nope...i am allowed to say that.

I can't reveal my role, abilties and my results.

And, if you want me to claim then I do so.

I would be glad because I already planned claiming on this day from the start...

My whole game play was centered on it

 

[Reborn]

I said that I can get mod killed on day 1 itself

 

[Reborn]

@Noctis @Sentinel @Jew D. Boy @Bogard decide....

We need majority Lynch...

If you guys aren't convinced then I had to claim to convincing you and it will come with my loss

 

[Bogard]

Tac is sure shot scum

Beta 2.0 (from playing safe as pantheos to creating Lynch based on assumptions) ...his argument is full of loophole and sentinel already said I didn't do anything...and, btw do we really know Playa visited me? What if Only sentinel visited me and he added playa who got NKed to make case against me.... his reasons are based on assumptions and we aren't playing game like that

You are sus as well...why? You jumped on final claim and put vote on rej immediately. This is not usual play. Then once flawed was found you backed off from rej and went after final... I see this tactic as distancing yourself from rej and then on right opportunity clinging on to final.....yes you voted rej but everyone did..not much here

Townie- noctis, me, NW, Kiwi, sentinel, Al as well (doubtful on al though especially after that N3 slip)

Thanks for your read, but no i didn't jump on Final's bandwagon. I was suspecting Rej even before day phase 2 started, and called him out

Final's reveal at the beginning of day phase 2 just helped in confirming a thought of mine i already had but couldn't fully prove at the time especially since i didn't see the point in Final revealing his entire role and night result it that early if scum, so i voted Rej to apply pressure on him to see his reaction

Afterwards, i'm the one who once again checked the difference between tracker and watcher that i didn't know at the beginning, on google, which at the time invalidated Final's claim to be a watcher and thus portraying Final's claim as a lie, and thus it was natural to perceive someone you thought to be lying as scum at the time, hence the vote

But later we found out it was a misunderstanding between Final and Denim, which made Final's claim make sense again

As for Final 2.0, while we don't know about Playa since he died, he had no way to know Sentinel would visit, and his claim would be bullshit if the Sentinel who was still alive could contradict his claim. That's why i don't think he is lying and his assumptions aren't far-fetched at all considering

- Denim literally confirmed someone won the mera, and thus the player potentially unlocked a new ability. If it's a mafia who won it, it could explain the second kill
- There could be an SK or vig in the game explaining the second kill

 

[Reborn]

Thanks for your read, but no i didn't jump on Final's bandwagon. I was suspecting Rej even before day phase 2 started, and called him out

Final's reveal at the beginning of day phase 2 just helped in confirming a thought of mine i already had but couldn't fully prove at the time especially since i didn't see the point in Final revealing his entire role and night result it that early if scum, so i voted Rej to apply pressure on him to see his reaction

Afterwards, i'm the one who once again checked the difference between tracker and watcher that i didn't know at the beginning, on google, which at the time invalidated Final's claim to be a watcher and thus portraying Final's claim as a lie, and thus it was natural to perceive someone you thought to be lying as scum at the time, hence the vote

But later we found out it was a misunderstanding between Final and Denim, which made Final's claim make sense again

As for Final 2.0, while we don't know about Playa since he died, he had no way to know Sentinel would visit, and his claim would be bullshit if the Sentinel who was still alive could contradict his claim. That's why i don't think he is lying and his assumptions aren't far-fetched at all considering

- Denim literally confirmed someone won the mera, and thus the player potentially unlocked a new ability. If it's a mafia who won it, it could explain the second kill
- There could be an SK or vig in the game explaining the second kill

It seem you aren't convinced... unfortunately I had to claim to convince you guys...

 

[Reborn]

Well if we can get a scum for loss of me then why not...its better than mislynch or no Lynch that can give too much advantage to mafia

 

[Dragomir]

Vote Lynch Whoever Kiwi Said

Say the name of the player or it won't count.

There are 3 hours left in the game. 4 votes on TAC, 2 on Reborn and 1 on Noctis.

 

[NeutralWatcher]

Say the name of the player or it won't count.

There are 3 hours left in the game. 4 votes on TAC, 2 on Reborn and 1 on Noctis.

Kiwi voted TAC

I don't believe TAC when he says his role is very strong and can't reveal it. To me, this screams scum or maybe even SK if we're assuming that one still exists.

Between Reborn and TAC, I think Reborn is very confident in his suspicion. He isn't saying TAC might be scum, he said TAC is scum as said per his ability. This to me is a better lead and there is no reason for Reborn to claim such because if TAC flips town, Reborn would be sure lynch tomorrow.

However, I don't understand why he isn't claiming. Again, I don't buy the "I can't claim because mod kill" one hundred percent but since TAC is doing the same thing, this isn't a tie breaker.

Vote Lynch TAC