Who is the strongest character?


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The sooner people realize Roger, Ryuma, Oden, Mihawk, Fujitora, and Shanks are all swordsmen meant to be surpassed by Zoro, the better.
Literally 2 of those have nothing to do with Zoro though:kobeha:

This is why this swordsman and title shit stupid. You will never get your answer with Roger and Shanks because Roger is Pirate King (a title Zoro will never achieve) and Shanks is a Yonko and either a big or final goal for Luffy (again, something Zoro will never achieve).

So by the EoS, people will STILL be arguing the same nonsensical bullshit. If Luffy vs Shanks is the last fight and Zoro vs Mihawk is 2nd to last, you will never hear the end of it, even if Shanks uses a sword the entire time or doesn't.
 
He was insinuated to be since he wanted to test the difference in strenght.
Mihawk wanted to find out if WB was still the WSM... He couldnt find that out because this is a war; expect interferences in battle(Jozu block Mihawk attack directed for WB). Now it wasnt stated Mihawk used his strongest move or anything close to it. He was there to "test" WB, then changed course because of Luffy(wanted to test him). Was Mihawk weaker than Luffy? Obviously not, so when we reference Marineford to down play Mihawk(strongest in the verse not name Kaido), because he fought Vista another master swordsmen and everyone else that wanted to protect Luffy, understand thats not a fair setting to determine any one potential. Its war, not an tournament where can actually find out whos the strongest. So Mihawk over Roger Hes the only one alive that figured out how to turn his supreme blade, black while Prime Beard couldnt or Roger (who was weaker than WB).
 
One Piece isn't about swordsmen but Zoro's part of the story is about him surpassing the previous swordsmen. I am not sure what's so hard about accepting a simple fact. Naturally, if Zoro's gonna be that OP, Luffy'll be even bigger, so there is no need to be so insecure if that's what you're worried about.
The problem is not Luffy and Zoro.

Is about people putting EoS Zoro and current Mihawk above Roger because him categorizes as Swordsman, it wasn't his strongest asset since his strongest asset is Supreme Kings Haki.
 
Chinjao is not the best power scaler measure you know.

WB and Shiki equaling Roger shoves Roger the nr. 1 in the mud. I'm not saying this to downplay him, it might sound like it but I'm just proving he wasn't the undisputed nr. 1

Whitebeard didn't even use his DF vs Roger and they were equal already.
Except Shiki said Roger was the wall holding Them back, and it was only after Roger died, that it became Whitebeard era. Even Shiki who was Roger's supposed equal, didn't contest his rank in the world in the face of Whitebeard.
 
Bruh we still haven't had Kaido's flashback
Orochi is still alive and kicking
Momo still hasn't lifted the fucking island yet
The fucking Wano Citizen still haven't seen the fucking giant island floating above their head yet
The fight is FARRRRRRRRRRRR from over :josad:
idgaf about kaido's flashback anymore. We should have gotten that a long time ago.

My guess is this god forsaken arc ends in 1050.

Kaido seems to be at his limit, Luffy's pulling out an island punch, I don't know how many more developments this fight can have.
 
Im pretty sure adv CoC has even a higher stages, like what Zoro show with Asura, perhaps Mihawk,Roger and Shanks had such a power too?
Only Luffy, Roger and Shanks will get this power. Oda made sure to state Luffy IS A COC HAKI SPECIALIST.

This is whats seperates Shanks from Mihawk and what put Shanks over mihawk.
 

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Except Shiki said Roger was the wall holding Them back, and it was only after Roger died, that it became Whitebeard era. Even Shiki who was Roger's supposed equal, didn't contest his rank in the world in the face of Whitebeard.
So Whitebeard becoming WSM during Roger's era means nothing? Consolidation prize? Or what?

I know why you lot wank Roger but if I have to burst ur bubble I'm just going to bring Ryuma.

Ryuma >>> Roger per portrayal. Now what?
 
One Piece isn't about swordsmen but Zoro's part of the story is about him surpassing the previous swordsmen. I am not sure what's so hard about accepting a simple fact. Naturally, if Zoro's gonna be that OP, Luffy'll be even bigger, so there is no need to be so insecure if that's what you're worried about.
And what if Shanks is the final antagonist and Mihawk is allied with him to be Zoro's final fight? What then lol?

Every other faction (Blackbeard, Akainu, Im) has their swordsmen already (Shiryu, Fujitora, Monk Gorosei maybe), and Shanks has nothing to do with Zoro, so seriously, what would the excuse be then because Benn Beckman is not a swordsman at all.
 
Chinjao is not the best power scaler measure you know.

WB and Shiki equaling Roger shoves Roger the nr. 1 in the mud. I'm not saying this to downplay him, it might sound like it but I'm just proving he wasn't the undisputed nr. 1

Whitebeard didn't even use his DF vs Roger and they were equal already.
What? We even don't the whole fight to said that WB didn't uses his fruit.

Is same saying that Mihawk and Shanks duel doesn't has Haki because if Shanks uses him have already defeated Mihawk.
 
So Whitebeard becoming WSM during Roger's era means nothing? Consolidation prize? Or what?

I know why you lot wank Roger but if I have to burst ur bubble I'm just going to bring Ryuma.

Ryuma >>> Roger per portrayal. Now what?
Except there is nowhere in the manga Canon that says Whitebeard was the WSM while Roger was alive.

And you can bring up someone who lived his whole life confined to a single island all you want. Roger ruled the entire seas. Ryuma ruled..... Wano....
 

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What? We even don't the whole fight to said that WB didn't uses his fruit.

Is same saying that Mihawk and Shanks duel doesn't has Haki because if Shanks uses him have already defeated Mihawk.
We are going off of what we could see, right? If we are doing what ifs I can say Roger passed out from one of the attacks but WB was friend enough to wait once he wakes up to continue.

U see where this is going if we are doing what ifs?

Use portrayal or manga panels.

In the manga Roger vs WB we only see Haki used by both. WB didn't even use his DF.
 
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