Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1047 Spoilers Discussion

[Mlzz]

this statement is there to shut up the Luffy haters who claim Luffy is being carried by his df

Luffy CoC>> all characters + god DF
EoS luffy probably low diff prime roger

 

[Topi Jerami]

this statement is there to shut up the luffy haters who claim Luffy is being carried by his df

He literally is.
What changed the game when Gear 3 was useless against Doffy? Gear 4.
What changed the game when Gear 4, adCoA, adCoC, adCoO Luffy was still losing against Kaido? Gear 5, destiny fruit, mythical zoan.

He is literally carried by his DF, and Kaido openly mocked him by wanking the DFless one.

 

[Iam25]

Are we discussing that Roger isnt top 1??

Tied with WB. People like to pretend Garp is on that level but Garp has never been implied at any point to be the clear cut wsm.

 

[Rmstorm]

wth are you on about.

I shut you down, and now you trying ro deflect. Typical Zoro fan behavior.

 

[RayanOO]

Why would it be a hard week for sword squad? This statement from Kaido proves devil fruits are not as important as some people try to argue. AdCoC reigns supreme.

With Roger being confirmed not having a DF this means :

- he was at least WB equal without DF
- he used mainly a sword
- he didn’t have Black blade either
- he could dominate the world without DF or BB

And it’s 99.99% likely that Roger is stronger than Mihawk

So guys like Shanks or Ray have all the chance in the world to be stronger or as strong as Mihawk even without Black blade

 

[Steven]

Bigger as Oni lol

I want to see that panel rn

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Why would it be a hard week for sword squad? This statement from Kaido proves devil fruits are not as important as some people try to prove. AdCoC reigns supreme.


So Kaido gives a statement on what a non-devil fruit user can achieve, but you are saying it has everything to do with Luffy who has a devil fruit? lmao, I dont think so.

did you read parts of what I said and ignore the rest?


first off why would oda bring it up in a fight with luffy if it has nothing to do with him
what is it that made roger so strong ? obvious answer now (willpower)
are those the same things that shanks could recognize in luffy at a young age?
luffy having or not having a df isnt the relevant part here
its his will in comparison to others which like roger is above the rest.

 

[Iam25]

Would roger ask vista to delay?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

With Roger being confirmed not having a DF this means :

- he was at least WB equal without DF
- he used mainly a sword
- he didn’t have Black blade either
- he could dominate the world without DF or BB

And it’s 99.99% likely that Roger is stronger than Mihawk

So guys like Shanks or Ray have all the chance in the world to be stronger or as strong as Mihawk even without Black blade

throw in oden too

 

[Ballel]

He literally is.
What changed the game when Gear 3 was useless against Doffy? Gear 4.
What changed the game when Gear 4, adCoA, adCoC, adCoO Luffy was still losing against Kaido? Gear 5, destiny fruit, mythical zoan.

He is literally carried by his DF, and Kaido openly mocked him by wanking the DFless one.

Have you suddenly turned into a ZKK supporter topi??

 

[Topi Jerami]

Zoro won thanks to haki and training.
Couldn't cut Mr. 1, learned advanced CoA, defeated him.
Learned Ashura / advanced CoC, defeated Kaku.
Mastered advanced CoC, defeated King.

Never once he was saved by destiny fruit nor daddy genes.
Nor destiny sword like @Monster Luffy said. If anything, when he fought King, Enma kept distracted him. Enma was a nerf.
Zoro traded Shusui which is already a black blade owned by Sword God, to Enma which distracting and owned by weaker swordsman than Ryuuma.
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Have you suddenly turned into a ZKK supporter topi??

I am open minded and willing to change opinion, unlike majority of the posters here.

 

[Blahmigooo]

And what is that poll
Isn't it obvious??

World Strongest "Man" > Any man> World Strongest Swords"man"

Somehow WB has the lowest vote.
This is Worstgen afterall

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

this statement is there to shut up the luffy haters who claim Luffy is being carried by his df

He is getting carried by his fruit Dont tell me he can conjure a giant punch bigger than Onigashima due to his skill.

With Roger being confirmed not having a DF this means :

- he was at least WB equal without DF
- he used mainly a sword
- he didn’t have Black blade either
- he could dominate the world without DF or BB

And it’s 99.99% likely that Roger is stronger than Mihawk

So guys like Shanks or Ray have all the chance in the world to be stronger or as strong as Mihawk even without Black blade

Yeah, I agree with this.

did you read parts of what I said and ignore the rest?


first off why would oda bring it up in a fight with luffy if it has nothing to do with him
what is it that made roger so strong ? obvious answer now (willpower)
are those the same things that shanks could recognize in luffy at a young age?
luffy having or not having a df isnt the relevant part here
its his will in comparison to others which like roger is above the rest.

You just made this up. The spoiler doesnt say anything about willpower.

 

[RayanOO]

throw in oden too

Oden wasn’t at that level for me.

Mihawk > Oden

Oden managed to have an « equal » fight with Kaido 20 years ago, even if you think Oden was stronger it was a really close deal.

And Kaido was weaker 20 years ago. Kaido grew stronger.

Oden potential was above Mihawk but for me he died too young. A 59 y Oden > Mihawk everyday

 

[Marimo_420]

Zoro > Roger.
Good to know.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Country level at EOS when he destroys redline

If he destroy the Red line, it would be a Continent lvl feat, not Country lvl.
Country lvl would mean if he split Wano in half or multiple pieces, but the red line is a huge continent which can clearly see space, destroying it, it would be a Multi Continent - Continent lvl feat.^^

Worstgen when Law creates a shockwave which reaches Wano: OMGGGG

Worstgen when Luffy creates a punch as big as Onigashima itself: thats it? Seriously?

Luffy feat will be even better in case, Law feat was insane too but it seems like Luffy feat will even top that.
Kinda insane that Luffy and Law have DC and able to destroy a entire island, these guys show feats which I expect from fucking Yonkou, Hakai was cool and all but hell I hope Kaido in awakened form will have a insane attack too.

@DarkWitch
So far you opinion about Kaido portrayal and feats?
You thought if Kaido gets awakening, what could this mean for BM?
What would you change of the portrayal with BM got against Kid and Law?

 

[Ashish]

Zoro won thanks to haki and training.
Couldn't cut Mr. 1, learned advanced CoA, defeated him.
Learned Ashura / advanced CoC, defeated Kaku.
Mastered advanced CoC, defeated King.

Never once he was saved by destiny fruit nor daddy genes.
Nor destiny sword like @Monster Luffy said. If anything, when he fought King, Enma kept distracted him. Enma was a nerf.
Zoro traded Shusui which is already a black blade owned by Sword God, to Enma which distracting and owned by weaker swordsman than Ryuuma.
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I am open minded and willing to change opinion, unlike majority of the posters here.

So why the. Fuck zoro unlocked advcoc after getting enma

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

He is getting carried by his fruit Dont tell me he can conjure a giant punch bigger than Onigashima due to his skill.


Yeah, I agree with this.


You just made this up. The spoiler doesnt say anything about willpower.

oh right yeah. I believe the spoiler instead said something about shanks and indirectly zoro like you implied
almost like what made roger so strong at this point shouldnt be a mystery .
rofl .

 

[Ballel]

He is getting carried by his fruit Dont tell me he can conjure a giant punch bigger than Onigashima due to his skill.

Tell this to all the other users of the Nika fruit of the past 800 years who weren't able to awaken it.

 

[Monster Luffy]

No i mean..isnt it kinda underwhelming...

But I dont think this is the end.