Powers & Abilities Where is Kaido's awakening?
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Ppl really think Kaido's enlarged nose is a sign of his awakening
So base Luffy pushed hybrid Kaido to awaken
Just chatting for the sake of it
So base Luffy pushed hybrid Kaido to awaken
Just chatting for the sake of it
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Answer a simple question for me... at what level is Zoro's CoA rn?
IIRC even ancient zoan users are said to have good recovery or tough skin.
Also, we've only seen two (three) mythical zoan users with high recovery speed so far: Marco, Kaido and Luffy. Marco's regeneration is objectively superior to Kaido. Recovery speed is a more individual trait and can be answered that Kaido is simply one of the most powerful top tiers with a mythical zoan.
There is the implication that (mythical) zoan users get a new transformation when awakened. Kaido has a full zoan and hybrid mode but which is awakened?
Oda always confirms when someone has awakening or not. He did not even bother to state Luffy's G5 as awakening. He confirmed Law and Kidd to have awakening. So why beat around the bush when it comes to Kaido? It does not make sense to not confirm Kaido's awakening. It just creates confusing - this discussion is already indirect proof why Oda definitely needs to confirm it.
Also, we've only seen two (three) mythical zoan users with high recovery speed so far: Marco, Kaido and Luffy. Marco's regeneration is objectively superior to Kaido. Recovery speed is a more individual trait and can be answered that Kaido is simply one of the most powerful top tiers with a mythical zoan.
There is the implication that (mythical) zoan users get a new transformation when awakened. Kaido has a full zoan and hybrid mode but which is awakened?
Oda always confirms when someone has awakening or not. He did not even bother to state Luffy's G5 as awakening. He confirmed Law and Kidd to have awakening. So why beat around the bush when it comes to Kaido? It does not make sense to not confirm Kaido's awakening. It just creates confusing - this discussion is already indirect proof why Oda definitely needs to confirm it.
Do you mean whether Zoro has Ryuo or not? But isn't it confirmed that Zoro's able to use Haki flow?
Also, wasn't it confirmed that Zoro imbued his swords in COC as well?
Question in return, does Zoro have penetration Haki? Does he have traits of said ability?
I get were you are coming from but DF abilities are much more complex than that and often, it can be translated as special abilities of DFs, so it is often difficult to estimate whether something is awakened or not, especially when it comes to Kaido.
Like, do we actually know that his whole drunken style modes are awakened or just a unique fighting style? The way how Dragon Kaido shaped his body when attacking Snake Man, it is awakening or just a result of special DF mastery?
Also, wasn't it confirmed that Zoro imbued his swords in COC as well?
Question in return, does Zoro have penetration Haki? Does he have traits of said ability?
I get were you are coming from but DF abilities are much more complex than that and often, it can be translated as special abilities of DFs, so it is often difficult to estimate whether something is awakened or not, especially when it comes to Kaido.
Like, do we actually know that his whole drunken style modes are awakened or just a unique fighting style? The way how Dragon Kaido shaped his body when attacking Snake Man, it is awakening or just a result of special DF mastery?
I feel like you're comparing apples with oranges at this moment.
Don't get me wrong but imo your comparison is very flawed as we've seen haki traits from both Yamato and Kaido when they clashed and we've also seen elements of COC clashes as well. Meanwhile, we're dealing with the question whether Kaido is already awakened or not. DF usage is much more versatile and it often needs clear answers or facts what ability it truly is. There are just too many examples of awakening-ish abilities which are not confirmed to be awakening in fact.
Don't get me wrong but imo your comparison is very flawed as we've seen haki traits from both Yamato and Kaido when they clashed and we've also seen elements of COC clashes as well. Meanwhile, we're dealing with the question whether Kaido is already awakened or not. DF usage is much more versatile and it often needs clear answers or facts what ability it truly is. There are just too many examples of awakening-ish abilities which are not confirmed to be awakening in fact.
He most probably is awakened, makes no sense for Oda to retcon and give Luffy awakening while not doing it to the strongest Zoan, the King of the Beasts. Then again, its Oda lol.
We're gonna see what it entails in a couple more chapters. Either he uses it & we're shown what it is and how it works, or he isn't awakened.
We're gonna see what it entails in a couple more chapters. Either he uses it & we're shown what it is and how it works, or he isn't awakened.
it's his drunk forms, Oda makes a clear distinction between base hybrid and his other forms which are clearly more animalistic
I could be wrong but I am not going to delude myself into thinking there's another form. It is most likely this, after all Doflamingo used awakening like 5 chapters before he explained it
I could be wrong but I am not going to delude myself into thinking there's another form. It is most likely this, after all Doflamingo used awakening like 5 chapters before he explained it
I really think it has to do with Kaidos Flame clouds ,not in a sense of using them but more of it like he can't use awakening now with the flame clouds holding onigashima.
Yamato stated that the clouds are indicating his stamina and its hard for him to hold them up .
They could hold him back a bit.
When momo learns actually to form his own clouds, Kaido could youse this to his advantage to let go of his clouds and go into his awakening to counter luffy's huge fist .
As his last resort
I mean when Kaido lifted the island he could have not imagend how far this battle and luffy would push him.
Yamato stated that the clouds are indicating his stamina and its hard for him to hold them up .
They could hold him back a bit.
When momo learns actually to form his own clouds, Kaido could youse this to his advantage to let go of his clouds and go into his awakening to counter luffy's huge fist .
As his last resort
I mean when Kaido lifted the island he could have not imagend how far this battle and luffy would push him.
No, the comparison is completely valid here. You guys are just expecting Oda to spoon-feed us everything for us to confirm the most obvious of things. That's not how it works. Kaido is a very devil's fruit-centric character. He's supposed to be someone who maxed out at everything he's good at. Hell, Katakuri said it's obvious for someone like "him" to have awakened his ability; what does that make Kaido? You're basically saying Kaido did not reach his fullest potential despite how strong he is when even the likes of Kid and Law, who likely have just as much potential, awakened their abilities as early as they did.
I dunno, I see a clear change in Kaido's facial features. It's not just him bumping some muscles. Same eyebrows he has in dragon form, whole set of sharp teeth, broader nose, much bigger jaw and wider cheekbones. He clearly means to look more feral.
I definitely think this isn't awakening, but just him growing more Dragon like features in a more "beast-like" hybrid form while compared to his usual hybrid.
If he would be awakened already, he would make it similar as with Katakuri:
Oda had enough chance to give Kaido a small speech where he state that he is awakened to like Luffy.
But he didn´t, same for BM, people assume something of ass to give a character a ability with was never confirmed.
Do you think Oda is this low and offscreen/no name a awakened power of a Yonkou?
There is a reason why Kaido power get special named with Drunken mode, that is not awakened power so far.
Oda had enough chance to give Kaido a small speech where he state that he is awakened to like Luffy.
But he didn´t, same for BM, people assume something of ass to give a character a ability with was never confirmed.
Do you think Oda is this low and offscreen/no name a awakened power of a Yonkou?
There is a reason why Kaido power get special named with Drunken mode, that is not awakened power so far.