Powers & Abilities Where is Kaido's awakening?
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The author doesn't have to spell everything for us. Our Zoro hater friends denied it with their lives when we've been highlighting Zoro's CoA and AP for years until we were literally shown just how good he is during Rooftop. The same thing applies here. If awakening is something you'd naturally expect from someone of Katakuri's caliber, then it's only logical the people who're supposedly standing at the top of the verse due to their DF abilities have it too. Saying Kaido doesn't have an awakening is the same as saying Mihawk and Shanks don't have advanced Haki forms.
Yes, that's exactly how BB does things but I bet Teach wouldn't expect Luffy, not even in his wildest dreams, to pull a win against two Yonko. BB has no idea how strong Luffy is, he doesn't know Luffy has the samurai and the minks are on his side, he doesn't know about Kid, and he doesn't even know BM's crew is taken out of the equation. So, for BB, Luffy's crew+Law's crew went on a suicide mission to fight against Kaido's and Big Mom's crews, which means there is no way BB would plan an attack on Wano. He is far more likely to attack WCI just like you said.
But none of it is confirmed yet. There is no statement either. We think this is the case because it is likely but I'd like to see a clear official statement about Kaido's entire form being awakened or his dragon forms being a result of awakening as well.
Especially in debates, it is tiresome debating about unconfirmed stuff, whether it is awakening or not.
Especially in debates, it is tiresome debating about unconfirmed stuff, whether it is awakening or not.
He transformed without drinking in the last chapter. Kaku just alters his body; that's just a perk of having a really flexible body, and it's not a completely different mode like Kaido's. He's just altering his body like how Luffy can stretch his body into different sizes.
Well, if what I've said is actually awakening, and if Oda doesn't directly mention it in the manga, does that mean he doesn't have awakening?
Well, if what I've said is actually awakening, and if Oda doesn't directly mention it in the manga, does that mean he doesn't have awakening?
Yes, when it comes to awakening or other special abilities, it has to.
Or are you ready to give Perospero awakening and Sanji FS because they demonstrated similar feats which are not confirmed to be said abilities? Perospero turned the ground into candy, yet there is no confirmation of his awakening.
Marco and King have similar and unusual forms of hybrid, it is awakening too?
Things like awakening need to be confirmed, we need to base abilities on facts, not on assumptions.
Or are you ready to give Perospero awakening and Sanji FS because they demonstrated similar feats which are not confirmed to be said abilities? Perospero turned the ground into candy, yet there is no confirmation of his awakening.
Marco and King have similar and unusual forms of hybrid, it is awakening too?
Things like awakening need to be confirmed, we need to base abilities on facts, not on assumptions.
Mythical Zoans are never said to be better at recovery than regular Zoans. We've already been told super recovery is a Zoan awakening thing. Kaido just defies all logic of Zoan recovery—He objectively took far more damage than Marco and Luffy, both of whom are his fellow Mythical Zoans. We got the implication that Zoans get a transformation via Luffy and Kaido's remarks about how his transformation in awakening is more similar to a Zoan.
In this particular case, Oda does have to spell it out for us because he has spelled it out for every character who has used awakening on panel throughout the manga. If Oda doesn't then it is just atrocious writing.
Kaido even states that Luffy's transformation is Zoan awakening, yet Kaido hasn't transformed past his Hybrid form. Bulking up is no different than what Lucci did preskip. From Kaido's words, Zoan awakening is a "permanent" change in mode.
Exactly, if we start assuming Kaido's awakening then we are just excusing the bad writing from Oda if he doesn't tell us that it is awakening
Kaido even states that Luffy's transformation is Zoan awakening, yet Kaido hasn't transformed past his Hybrid form. Bulking up is no different than what Lucci did preskip. From Kaido's words, Zoan awakening is a "permanent" change in mode.
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Exactly, if we start assuming Kaido's awakening then we are just excusing the bad writing from Oda if he doesn't tell us that it is awakening