General & Others Is Kanjuro going to kidnap Momonosuke?

[ImmaIvanoM]

Kanjuro is standing on the shore within a couple of meters from everyone.

He's supposed to take Momonosuke to Onigashima and right now he's stuck on Wano shore with NO ALLIES. The entire mainland is now only made up of Alliance members and all of Orochi and Kaido's men are on Onigashima.

Therefore, THERE'S NO ALLIES AROUND KANJURO AND HE'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED.

So is he going to manage to escape with Momo?

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Kanjuro is standing on the shore within a couple of meters from everyone.

He's supposed to take Momonosuke to Onigashima and right now he's stuck on Wano shore with NO ALLIES. The entire mainland is now only made up of Alliance members and all of Orochi and Kaido's men are on Onigashima.

Therefore, THERE'S NO ALLIES AROUND KANJURO AND HE'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED.

So is he going to manage to escape with Momo?

Kanjuro can always fly on some flying creature by drawing one. The possibilities with his df are vast.

I think it's too soon for him to die at this stage, so see him escaping and at the same time, also hard to see Alliance letting Momonosuke go, nor can they afford to. The alliance is already at disadvantage facing two Yonkous.

 

[Worst]

Kanjuro Is fkt atm i see no way for him to escape now cuz even if he can "fly" so can Luffy /Sanji

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Kanjuro can always fly on some flying creature by drawing one. The possibilities with his df are vast.

I think it's too soon for him to die at this stage, so see him escaping and at the same time, also hard to see Alliance letting Momonosuke go, nor can they afford to. The alliance is already at disadvantage facing two Yonkous.

But Kanjuro is a psychopath. Hes not afraid of dying. He will try and take Momonosuke whether he has to die to so or not.

So will the alliance manage to lose his man when they are completely surrounded and have multiple memeber who can fly or attack at long range

 

[KiriNigiri]

Only one who can get to Momonosuke in time is Law, but I don't know if he'll take action. Law's powers tend to be used sparingly. I think it'd more interesting if he were captured, as that would bring him face to face with Kaido and Orochi.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Only one who can get to Momonosuke in time is Law, but I don't know if he'll take action. Law's powers tend to be used sparingly. I think it'd more interesting if he were captured, as that would bring him face to face with Kaido and Orochi.

Really? Only law? How fast is Kanjuro supposed to be?

Like if we try and create a scenario for escape, kanjuro has to leave the shore line and either hide inland for days(which is unlikely since plot) or he has to find another boat in another port or something and rake momo to onigashima another way. These are the none combat options.

If kanjuro is to fight, he'll have to aerial combat to have any chance and still that's unlikely to help given range and mobility aren't a big deal for a lot of alliance members.

The most likely thing to ensure the outcome of Kanjuro actually kidnapping momo is him plainly SPEED BLITZING EVERY ONE. That's the only explanation that would somehow make sense. That kanjuro is faster than EVERYONE in the alliance. He's faster than luffy and Sanji and Zues and Zoro and law and Ussop and Franky.

Of course I'm assuming Kanjuro doesn't get help to escape which is also another possibility but the same problem comes up, who is actually strong enough to come in and help him and survive Luffy law and kid. It would have to be like Kaido himself or King maybe and if its them then this war would've have ramped up way faster than anyone thought

 

[ardym]

you have many powerful people there he cannot do anything to be honest and the weather is not helpful for him
you have Law and flying and invisible Sanji and Luffy can always G4 and fly as well and he has FS so he can anticipate Kanjuru's move as well. just like he did with Babanuki

 

[KiriNigiri]

Really? Only law? How fast is Kanjuro supposed to be?

Like if we try and create a scenario for escape, kanjuro has to leave the shore line and either hide inland for days(which is unlikely since plot) or he has to find another boat in another port or something and rake momo to onigashima another way. These are the none combat options.

If kanjuro is to fight, he'll have to aerial combat to have any chance and still that's unlikely to help given range and mobility aren't a big deal for a lot of alliance members.

The most likely thing to ensure the outcome of Kanjuro actually kidnapping momo is him plainly SPEED BLITZING EVERY ONE. That's the only explanation that would somehow make sense. That kanjuro is faster than EVERYONE in the alliance. He's faster than luffy and Sanji and Zues and Zoro and law and Ussop and Franky.

Of course I'm assuming Kanjuro doesn't get help to escape which is also another possibility but the same problem comes up, who is actually strong enough to come in and help him and survive Luffy law and kid. It would have to be like Kaido himself or King maybe and if its them then this war would've have ramped up way faster than anyone thought

They are surrounded by ocean. And Kanjuro's approaching the Beast Pirate ships. He can easily threaten Momo's life from a distance, preventing anyone from taking action. Only alternative is having someone just swim towards Kanjuro, but it'd be simpler just to shambles Momo away, as Kanjuro could construct a flying piece to get away in that time it takes to swim towards him, or be guarded by the Beast Pirate ships.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Of course, he will escape with MOMO on a flying creature that is SO FAST this time because he actually can draw masterfully


Now.. can the alliance still catch him??? sure! they have the abilities to do so.... Law's shambles can basically save Momo easily... HOWEVER, for plot purposes, Oda will ignore their abilities and just make Momo be captured by enemy easily.

 

[Longleg Larry]

I hope Luffy yells at Momo to save his own damn self.

At which point Momo goes Dragon & cloud hops away from Kanjuro (hopefully into the ocean:devilish:, but I’d settle for a ship)

 

[ardym]

Of course, he will escape with MOMO on a flying creature that is SO FAST this time because he actually can draw masterfully


Now.. can the alliance still catch him??? sure! they have the abilities to do so.... Law's shambles can basically save Momo easily... HOWEVER, for plot purposes, Oda will ignore their abilities and just make Momo be captured by enemy easily.

i really doubt that . the whole plot is to surprise the enemy . if Kanjuru manages to kidnap him and fly to Onigashima the whole plot would be for nothing

 

[Date]

I would like to see Momo talk with Kaido and Orochi, there's something that Kaido want from Kozuki clan.

But if Momo was kidnapped and we enter in another subplot of having to save someone captured by Kaido again, it would be quite boring. Expecialy in this time where we want to see more action of the Aliance, as the Arc has been just preparations and flashbacks

 

[Shiroyru]

Only one who can get to Momonosuke in time is Law, but I don't know if he'll take action. Law's powers tend to be used sparingly. I think it'd more interesting if he were captured, as that would bring him face to face with Kaido and Orochi.

Kid can use his powers to manipulate Kanjuro’s brush

 

[KiriNigiri]

Kid can use his powers to manipulate Kanjuro’s brush

Still doesn't immediately erase the threat to Momo's life. Kanjuro doesn't care if he dies, he might just try kill Momonosuke by throwing him off the boat or chocking him.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Kanjuro could be far stronger than we thought. It seems as if he was faking being bad at art. Given that he's *presumably* Orochi's cousin, I could actually see him being Orochi's right hand man or at least on a similar level to Kyoshiro amongst Orochi's regime.

I could see Kanjuro doing some shit where he summons a bunch of kaiju or creating a bunch of clones of himself and Momonosuke.

 

[zzShinichi]

Kanjuro could be far stronger than we thought. It seems as if he was faking being bad at art. Given that he's *presumably* Orochi's cousin, I could actually see him being Orochi's right hand man or at least on a similar level to Kyoshiro amongst Orochi's regime.

I could see Kanjuro doing some shit where he summons a bunch of kaiju or creating a bunch of clones of himself and Momonosuke.

But Orochi is weak af tho (compared to other Wano monsters)

 

[Monkey D Theories]

But Orochi is weak af tho (compared to other Wano monsters)

but all the people around him are strong, thereby giving him power.

He had Kyoshiro, the oniwanbanshu, and Killer serving directly under him.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

They are surrounded by ocean. And Kanjuro's approaching the Beast Pirate ships. He can easily threaten Momo's life from a distance, preventing anyone from taking action. Only alternative is having someone just swim towards Kanjuro, but it'd be simpler just to shambles Momo away, as Kanjuro could construct a flying piece to get away in that time it takes to swim towards him, or be guarded by the Beast Pirate ships.

Can't Sanji stealth black to him? He becomes invisible and flies over and kicks Kanjuro's ass? Can luffy just gear fourth and fly towards hI'm and speed blitz him with like Snake man? And everyone else wth long range attacks like Zoro and Franky that should be faster than this man

I don't think him threatening momo should be a good enough reason to just let the man go since he'll still take momo deep into enemy territory where momo's life will still be in danger and will be much harder to save

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

He had Kyoshiro, the oniwanbanshu, and Killer serving directly under him.

He no longer has most of these and the oniwanbanshu are fodder tier.

Now all he has are the secret police who are most likely fodder tier as well and the beast pirates

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Of course, he will escape with MOMO on a flying creature that is SO FAST this time because he actually can draw masterfully


Now.. can the alliance still catch him??? sure! they have the abilities to do so.... Law's shambles can basically save Momo easily... HOWEVER, for plot purposes, Oda will ignore their abilities and just make Momo be captured by enemy easily.

But then shouldn't we count that as a feat? The plot would've decided that kanjuro is faster than every aerial combatant and long range attacker in the entire alliance