Coronavirus : Pandemic Alert

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Homelander

As i just said, bioweapons are being made and if they were to be made as a VIRUS, obviously they would use the people that actually study VIRUSES. Right?

And as i said, many scientists are saying otherwise and there is no general consesus, and as i said, if most scientists believe something it doesnt mean its true. The scientific method doesnt resolve around opinions, and as i havent seen anyone really rebutting my claim SCIETIFICALLY, i cant see how you are right.

Plus, i can go on and on about many, many occasions where most scientists were wrong. And i absolutely hate Alex Jones and dont really believe in conspiracies, i just doubt some a LOT.

If you think the Governemnt doesnt lie and cares about you, you really need to study some psychology and, principally, HISTORY.
Your understanding of science is limited btw this is what i can figure out from your messages so far , if you dont know then don't claim bioweapons are being made for virologist to study them you know nothing about medical science to even genetically create them needs many years of study to artificially create them we are no where near to create the dangerous virus yet and there are different level bio scientist work on it might take days to explain .

Read this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misinformation_related_to_the_2019–20_coronavirus_pandemic

Also the research papers i have pointed out : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1326447/

The research paper even figures :

We can decypher the genetic material from the virus and it shows a lineage that includes bats, birds, snakes, and humans. This is important because viruses do not produce complete genetic material and use that of host cells they have infected. So as the virus is transmitted, it carries along snippets of host genetic material that form a history.


The thing is Genetic Engineering has not advanced enough to recreate Viral that can mutate! It takes Billions of dollar of investments to make such genetically viral weapons . I would say very few countries have pursued it .


For a small-scale attack against less than 1,000 people, I'd argue that a biological attack is not incredibly difficult to put together if you have the intent and resources. A systems engineering approach to the topic outlines five primary components:

  1. Acquisition
  2. Processing
  3. Weaponizing
  4. Planning
  5. Deployment
Because some deadly pathogens are naturally occurring, preventing malicious acquisition can be an incredibly difficult (if not impossible) task for law
enforcement/governments. Deadly agents like Anthrax and Tularemia are
not controlled substances-- they can be acquired and cultivated by someone with motivation.

A bio-weapon is only effective if the dose is substantial enough to cause lethality. To get the seed stock to those levels, a malicious actor could exploit widely available dual-use equipment found in places like Home Depot. Not unlike home-brewing beer, using a large fermenter could be used to grow a stock of agent into large quantities.

To weaponize this, milling equipment and freeze-drying equipment (also commercially available) may be used to make the agent more easily breathable by the victims.

The planning stage is just that-- maintaining the stock until the circumstances align with the attack situation.

Finally, the deployment stage incorporates the dispersal methods, locations, and other factors which will have a huge influence on attack effectiveness. Again, making something into an aerosol spray or simply contaminating food and water supplies is not an incredibly difficult effort.

This prompts the question: if low-grade bio-weapons are reasonably easy
to manufacture (think around $20,000), why are they so incredibly rare?
Debates rage about this topic, but I believe it's because conventional weapons (bombs, guns, etc) are also incredibly cheap, effective, and user-friendly. Developing a bio-weapon takes a long time and persistent attention. It leaves the chef vulnerable to self-infection. Myriad variables like weather and wind can spoil a long-prepared bio-attack. It's just not as effective
as pulling a trigger, frankly.


Source : US Viral Science Journal

The day you deride science or scientist then you are a conspiracy theorist like Alex Jones !
 
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Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Why would we need a shutdown if its not dangerous for most people? People at risk should just be carefull and stay st home. Its close to Impossible (0.2%) for a adult to die from it, and there has been no baby or kid fatalities. 80+ more has 21% chance of dying, while 70+ has 8%. From 0 to 40, if you dont have pre existing conditions, you most likely won't even feel SYMTOMS. A shutdown is completely unecessary, unless you are talking about immigration, which has worked in many places.
If the pandemic gets as bad as it is estimated, a lockdown is needed to properly contain and control the virus. Without it, the virus will just keep spreading.

"Living without an income from 2 months is bad"

Its STOPPING THE PRODUCTION AND NOT THE DEMAND FOR 2 MONTHS, IN A WHOLE COUNTRY.

That's not gonna be the only consequence bruh. Most of the crisis were made by much, much less.
Of course there will be many other consequences. Supply and demand will obviously take a bigger hit. Even if the virus magically vanishes right now, it's already forced some changes for a while. The main priority is preventing the virus from spreading. Lockdown is a key component is doing so since citizens are still ignorant to the chance of contagion, only taking things seriously when it's too late.
 
Good point, I guess you could think about it as population control. But in my opinion is the way all species interact with the environment. There is always risk of viruses and bacteria adapting to new hots or mutating like HIV. That's always been the world we live in and we need to understand that even though as a society we try our best to study and fight diseases sometimes it all depends on our own judgement and what we do to prevent infection. Think about other deadly viruses like dengue virus if a mosquito bites you and is infected you are sick is all it takes. We have to be positive with Covid-19 and do the simple steps indicated by the experts. I'm not saying is easy because is been bad so far but still we have an advantage with respect to society years ago.
 
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Homelander

Do you guys think, that in every century, nature implements it's own method of population control..??
There is no such analogy , Virus coexist with us . It has been there since formation of earth as a planet !! I would say people are ignorant regarding eating wild species can carry deadly pathogens .

Wet Markets are the targeted places where deadly virus originates . This is just Human mismanaging stuff as always , it happened with chicken and pigs as well if you dont steralize it before eating them .

That's why most poultary farm gets certification when they are sterilized .
 

Boris has been meek so far in this area , like trump he is acting late in taking precaution .
It was for a bit on all italian news that he seeks a different path than what the other countries are doing aka the natural selection. He said something like that when 60% of the population will be hit then it will develop an herd immunity and also said that people must be ready to lose their loved ones.

From what I heard he, instead of a quarantine, is betting that with spring-summer and the raise of temperatures the virus will slow down so that UK will have more time to prepare and be hit less. And he is backesld up by his scientific comittee.
 
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It was for a bit on all italian news that he seeks a different path than what the other countries are doing aka the natural selection. He said something like that when 60% of the population will be hit then it will develop an herd immunity and also said that people must be ready to lose their loved ones.

From what I heard he, instead of a quarantine, is betting that with spring-summer and the raise of temperatures the virus will slow down so that UK will have more time to prepare and be hit less. And he is backesld up by his scientific comittee.
WHO disagreed with his view , he is doing this because he wants the economy to run without closing anything !! He is already doing terrible with post brexit scenrio .
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
If you think trump is idiot , Boris is dropped into my moron list . So basically he wants everyone to get infected with virus so that the weak , old member of your family will die . His dangerous concept of "Herd Immunity " will not work .

Please dont let Corbyn smile "I told you so " , this govt is mad !
Basically he is a killer lol

Should get jailed man
 
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