Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1048 Spoilers Discussion

[OnePiss]

Some of these takes lmao

 

[Master OF Haki]

On a side note, it seems like Oda is indirectly showing fire potential

It's the second time now that he shows someone who manipulates fire able to expand it to be able to reach magma lvl of heat

And both users aren't even primarily fire users, with the primarily fire user being Ace in the past and Sabo now

That may indirectly imply imo that at a certain lvl of control, a Mera Mera no MI user may be capable to increase the fruits heat potency while the magma temperature is most of the time stable

It might be Oda's way to prepare the Mera Mera overcoming Magu Magu story writing

And what's the point of it? The idea of one DF>another DF as the deciding factor in a battle has ended with the introduction of haki, and advanced haki has put the last nail in the coffin. In a top tier battle where advanced haki is profound, there's no place for DFvsDF narratives.

 

[Strawhats Bible]

Let's take King vs Kuzan.

King produces hotter flames than Ace.

Ace can match Kuzans fire.

King can survive in any environment.

King is nigh-invulnerable even against cutting attacks when the flame is on.

So exactly how does Kuzan neg or beat King with marginal difficulty?

He can't. Its a high difficulty fight.

Except Kuzan has probably a 10x better haki than King which them would negate his fire, so what?

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Dat moment when Kaido used his strongest attack in dragon form

B-but Dragon Kaido is weak, his df is useless

It's more of a situational issue, given the size of the fist he's supposed to be facing, it makes sense to bulk up.
Luffy is the only one who can create a punch of that size.

 

[Monkey D Al]

Garp is a brick unlike Kaido

Garp was all the time below Roger/WB.That never changed

Where was it said that he was below? He is on the same level as them. That’s what the story clearly tells.

 

[Strawhats Bible]

It's more of a situational issue, given the size of the fist he's supposed to be facing, it makes sense to bulk up.
Luffy is the only one who can create a punch of that size.

Except Luffy isn't the only one capable of creating a punch that size, can't see what would prevent Akainu or Kuzan of doing it.

 

[Tejas]

Except Kuzan has probably a 10x better haki than King which them would negate his fire, so what?

Baseless. King defeats Kuzan. Kuzan has nothing against King going from his feats.

 

[Iam25]

Except Kuzan has probably a 10x better haki than King which them would negate his fire, so what?

So how does Kuzan get past his durability?

I mean. Its not an easy feat. And you don't know how good Kuzans haki is compared to Kings.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

CoC sphere is larger than an island...and even in an impossible case where Akainu can slip a magma fist...surprise Kaidou is not affected by magma

This one really looks like goku's GENKIDAMA.
Kaido actually implemented the DBZ system in ONE PIECE.
It's bigger than the island.

 

[Tejas]

Except Luffy isn't the only one capable of creating a punch that size, can't see what would prevent Akainu or Kuzan of doing it.

But the punch is coated with Advanced CoC and Advanced Ryou which Akainu and Aokiji don't have

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Except Luffy isn't the only one capable of creating a punch that size, can't see what would prevent Akainu or Kuzan of doing it.

You have a point, but for now it's guesswork.

 

[Strawhats Bible]

Baseless. King defeats Kuzan. Kuzan has nothing against King going from his feats.

Baseless what? He stopped a full gura punch with barrier haki.
By using Barrier haki he is already avoiding Kings flames, no Admiral is losing to a YC1 wake up.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

How did Kaido do bagua without hhg

he literally used a light sword vs Rayleigh and tried to blitz the Straw Hats.

Yes he won't use his lasers, what kind of one trick pony you think he is?
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I want him to die so badly but he's obviously being set up as the brother Luffy succeeds in saving

Ii never said its one trick. But alot of his attacks are ranged and his sword is just laser.

 

[Strawhats Bible]

But the punch is coated with Advanced CoC and Advanced Ryou which Akainu and Aokiji don't have

We don't know about CoC but they definitely have Ryou because we saw them using in Marineford lol

 

[Iam25]

Baseless what? He stopped a full gura punch with barrier haki.
By using Barrier haki he is already avoiding Kings flames, no Admiral is losing to a YC1 wake up.

He stopped a punch with 2 other admirals from a nerfed Whitebeard who was holding back.

 

[Peroroncino]

And what's the point of it? The idea of one DF>another DF as the deciding factor in a battle has ended with the introduction of haki, and advanced haki has put the last nail in the coffin. In a top tier battle where advanced haki is profound, there's no place for DFvsDF narratives.

yes if only akainu had a theme of hot vs cold going with his DF recently

 

[Roo]

How did Kaido do bagua without hhg
Ii never said its one trick. But alot of his attacks are ranged and his sword is just laser.

He’ll use his speed and fight hand to hand combat with adCoA. Not a huge nerf

 

[OnePiss]

When can we leave these fights so we can get back to the interesting OP stuff

 

[Strawhats Bible]

He stopped a punch with 2 other admirals from a nerfed Whitebeard who was holding back.

He still used barrier haki which will prevent him from getting touched by the flames, just like Luffy is doing now.

 

[uyuu]

This one really looks like goku's GENKIDAMA.
Kaido actually implemented the DBZ system in ONE PIECE.
It's bigger than the island.

Akainu when Kaidou counter his Meteor Volcano with CoC Genkidama