King the Wildfire vs Mihawk the Shichibukai

[Inspector_Mu]

He fought a weaker shanks 12+ years ago
They werent even as strong as they are now
Not even above Oden back then

It was pretty evident that Mihawk had little to no interest in the war though. This whole misconception with him vs Vista is honestly tiring to see over and over again, Mihawk likes to prolong and savor a fight, he has done this since the first time we saw him and his reasoning?

If he did this against East Blue Zoro, what makes you think it would be in his interests to take out commanders of WB right away when he didn’t really care about the war. Even in the fight vs Vista, he was analyzing his fighting style and Vista was surprised to hear that Mihawk even knew of him. Seems more like a dude tryna kill boredom rather than him not being capable of mid diffing YCs.


There’s no way Mihawk is the WSS and hasn’t beaten one good swordsmen along the way, denying that is basically denying his renowned title. Which would be a fallacy. His fights against Shanks is all the evidence you need that he is indeed a top tier, dueling against Shanks and the impact their clashes had on the world was pretty evident. And again he is the WSS, above Shanks (who’s a swordsman) and Fujitora who’s straight up called a swordsman

The reason why Mihawk doesn’t fight top tier swordsman could have already been revealed in the vivre cards, iirc when it says that he’s waiting for someone to surpass his rival (Shanks) to challenge him, and that is going to end up being Zoro. But nonetheless, denying Mihawk is a top tier is honestly ridiculous at this point, if Fujitora is a top tier and Mihawk is above him via virtue of his title, then it cannot be disputed.

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[MarineHQ]

Mihawk is one of those fighters that likes to fuck around before going in serious.

If I judge this from his feats, it's a high diff, but factoring in all the Hype around Mihawk, I'll give him a mid diff.

However, I honestly can't say that Mihawk low diffs considering the Vista clash.

Btw I have King>=Katakuri

 

[Haku]

It was pretty evident that Mihawk had little to no interest in the war though. This whole misconception with him vs Vista is honestly tiring to see over and over again, Mihawk likes to prolong and savor a fight, he has done this since the first time we saw him and his reasoning?

If he did this against East Blue Zoro, what makes you think it would be in his interests to take out commanders of WB right away when he didn’t really care about the war. Even in the fight vs Vista, he was analyzing his fighting style and Vista was surprised to hear that Mihawk even knew of him. Seems more like a dude tryna kill boredom rather than him not being capable of mid diffing YCs.


There’s no way Mihawk is the WSS and hasn’t beaten one good swordsmen along the way, denying that is basically denying his renowned title. Which would be a fallacy. His fights against Shanks is all the evidence you need that he is indeed a top tier, dueling against Shanks and the impact their clashes had on the world was pretty evident. And again he is the WSS, above Shanks (who’s a swordsman) and Fujitora who’s straight up called a swordsman

The reason why Mihawk doesn’t fight top tier swordsman could have already been revealed in the vivre cards, iirc when it says that he’s waiting for someone to surpass his rival (Shanks) to challenge him, and that is going to end up being Zoro. But nonetheless, denying Mihawk is a top tier is honestly ridiculous at this point, if Fujitora is a top tier and Mihawk is above him via virtue of his title, then it cannot be disputed.

Did you read what I wrote?
Becuase he doesn't care about the war is not reason to not oneshot some one... when right before he onshoted some one (Mr. 1)....If he could he would have oneshot Vista. If he didn't want to fight he just had to end the fight faster by oneshoting Vista not calling the fight off...
How does he know no one surpassed Shanks already if he doesn't fight no one? His title means bullocks, WB had the title of strongest even in his old sick age, and while he would give hard fight to anyone we know he wasn't the strongest anymore yet he still had the title. Literally is just a title that until we don't see what he actually can do (Which was the premise of my post) since we haven't seen more than not been able to by pass a YC3 that is what we have to go with. That is what is call the law of presumption: is a conclusion based upon a particular set of facts. A fact is Mihawk doesn't fight no one worthy of name who knows how long ago until shown differently (Maybe since Shanks) a fact is Mihawk couldn't by pass a YC3 which should have been more than easy for him as we have seen top tiers do with people stronger than a YC3 and yes a fact his Mihawk has a title of the strongest swordsman which is negligible when the title is not proven or in any way shape or form is compatible with his viewed capabilities...

What you did in that post of yours is called anchoring bias, anchoring your conclusion to one aspect of everything we know or seen of Mihawk, mainly his title. And Ignoring/ neglecting every other factor or fact we have available at the moment on Mihawk as not important and making assumptions on Mihawks process of thought (I am not going to just kill this guy because I relly don't care). Neglecting any other possibility apart from Mihawk is the strongest, which is called Attentional bias.
Again is all matters of showing something more of what has being shown to us. That confirms Mihawk's title and his standing over all.
By title yes he should be, by feats and tangible actions or facts no until shown other wise.

 

[Topi Jerami]

King the wildlife takes this easily.

Not that easily though, still exteme diff either way with slight advantage goes to King.

Mihawk, on the other hand, has no Df but just supreme grade black blade which only reflects highly advanced usage of CoA. No fire ability... Meh...

Indeed meh. Seeing Zoro got black sword but actually doesn't make it blade by his own instead just inherited it from a corpse. Not too farfetched to think Mihawk also didn't black Yoru himself. Probably his Master blackened the Yoru and just inherited it to Mihawk.
I meant, look at the panel

Spoiler

> Mihawk 100% making huge ass Yoru black
> Yet he can't even make the smaller knife black

He also rivaled Shanks a Yonkou but he didn't Koed Shanks ship so meh again...

Probably you're trolling but actually you have a point again.
How come Mihawk dares to cut Shanks' ship? The moment he does it, it's not just Shanks that will jump at him, Beckman, Lucky Roo, and whole Red Hairs will jump at him if he damages their ship.

He is simply a world strongest swordsman. I mean there is no big deal in being WSS and having black blade.. Right?

I sense you're trolling here but actually you have a point again.
If people debate "World Strongest Creature" only applies to non human characters, and "World Strongest Man" only applies to human characters. Then do the formula and "World Greatest Swordsman" should only apply to human swordsman. You see King is not a human so WSS title doesn't apply to him.

Anyone can have black blade by purchasing in black market and anyone can get title of WSS by bribing public. I bet even king can do so but you know wano conditions and Kaido aim of having war had made financial conditions tight for king that's why he doesn't have any title and black blade.

100% you're not serious with this one yet as I explained earlier: It's not a confirmed fact that Mihawk made Yoru black by his own. There's a chance he just inherited already black Yoru from someone else.
Supporting proof: he can't even make the smaller knife black.

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Probably you're trolling but actually you have a point again.
How come Mihawk dares to cut Shanks' ship? The moment he does it, it's not just Shanks that will jump at him, Beckman, Lucky Roo, and whole Red Hairs will jump at him if he damages their ship.

While panel already says King dared to attack Big Mom and Queen Mama Chanter despite her crew being there. Yet they can't react nor do anything to King.

 

[Blackbeard]

King wins. the sword is just for show

his real fighting style is kicking bitches away like Marco

 

[ShishioIsBack]

King the chad who low diffed Big Meme and her crew vs Mihawk who cuts Islands by flexing?

Extreme diff either way

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Sad thing about OJ closing was that we're not gonna be able to go back to questions like these once Mihawk shows off his true strength. Luckily someone has made this thread.

 

[Finalbeta]

Sad thing about OJ closing was that we're not gonna be able to go back to questions like these once Mihawk shows off his true strength. Luckily someone has made this thread.

Can't wait for the time

 

[Topi Jerami]

Now that Mihawk is no longer WSS the moment he lost his Shichibukai status

#MySenpaiToldYou that WSS is only a title given by WG, to scare weaker pirates. Now that Shichibukai is gone, the title becomes irrelevant and no longer valid. Mihawk is just another swordsman now.
King has more chance to win now more than before. No more WSS > any other who happens to have a sword bs.

#PanelBoxDoesn'tLie

 

[Inspector_Mu]

Now that Mihawk is no longer WSS the moment he lost his Shichibukai status

#MySenpaiToldYou that WSS is only a title given by WG, to scare weaker pirates. Now that Shichibukai is gone, the title becomes irrelevant and no longer valid. Mihawk is just another swordsman now.
King has more chance to win now more than before. No more WSS > any other who happens to have a sword bs.

#PanelBoxDoesn'tLie

Lol even though I was trolling

I remember they say Narratir boxes is facts
But they will say here the narrator is just bla bla...

Anyway WSS is not about Mihawk being so strong , he is an inbetweener with one Top tier haki...
He is slightly above or equal to Oden/Katakuri/WCi Luffy...

 

[Topi Jerami]

Lol even though I was trolling

I remember they say Narratir boxes is facts
But they will say here the narrator is just bla bla...

Anyway WSS is not about Mihawk being so strong , he is an inbetweener with one Top tier haki...
He is slightly above or equal to Oden/Katakuri/WCi Luffy...

After sleeping with Katakuri plushie for 1 year straight now senpai also has Future Sight

 

[Cinera]

I will revive my last thread in OJ before I got banned. Couldn't reply back to the replies there back then.
So once again:

King the Wildfire

Spoiler

VS

Mihawk the Shichibukai

Spoiler

Location: Marineford
Rules: No restrictions

My thoughts:
By portrayal, imo King can rival Mihawk easily. The 2 characters actually have faced a very similar scenario, although the result was not so similar.

In Marineford, Mihawk tried to attack a Yonko (Whitebeard), who was aboard his ship (Moby Dick), and he was accompanied by his YC2 (Diamond Jozu).
Here's the result:

Whitebeard's YC2 stopped the attack easily. The attack never reached Moby Dick, and Whitebeard who was aboard her.

Now, very similar scenario happened again in Wano.
King the Wildfire, tried to attack another Yonko (Big Mom), who was also aboard her ship (Queen Mama Chanter), and she was also accompanied by her YC2 (Smoothie) along with some other crewmembers including Veterans.
And this is where the similarity ended. The result was pretty different than Mihawk's attempt:

King landed the attack successfully. Neither Big Mom's YC2, and not even Big Mom herself could do anything to stop King's attack despite seeing him from afar. King achieved what Mihawk failed to do.

Now, of course this portrayal alone can't push the opinion that King will win against everytime, because Mihawk is still Shanks' rival who is ~ Beckmann level. So this match is literally match between ~ YC1 level so I can't say certain YC1 can defeat another one 10 out of 10 times.
I say the result is extreme diff either way, with King winning 6 out of 10 times due to clear better portrayal among the 2.

Man, quality content like this is why I came back.

On a serious note, Shanks' bounty is probably nearly triple King's, and from Kaido vs Luffy we've seen that there's a gulf between solid top tiers and the high high tiers.

 

[Finalbeta]

Weird thread since Mihawk doesn't like to eat birds.

 

[Erkan12]

King high-diffs.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

People expecting a narrator intro box reiterating the same title at every appearance.
memory must be lacking. guess kaido is no longer wsc after 957

 

[Finalbeta]

People expecting a narrator intro box reiterating the same title at every appearance.
memory must be lacking. guess kaido is no longer wsc after 957

Who is that now then iyo?

 

[Zenos7]

Who is that now then iyo?

mihawk

 

[Inspector_Mu]

People expecting a narrator intro box reiterating the same title at every appearance.
memory must be lacking. guess kaido is no longer wsc after 957

Lol Kaido Doesnt need WSC title to be amazing
He is the only yonko whose strength was solely hyped during that chapter too

Nice try

Post automatically merged: Oct 10, 2019

The only thing Mihawk fans have is :
WSS title

Since they know his MF feats sucks and his duels was vs high tier shanks.

Apart from that... we have Mihawk with possibly one top tier haki ...
He is never a conqueror...no CoC

 

[Zowo]

Lol Kaido Doesnt need WSC title to be amazing
He is the only yonko whose strength was solely hyped during that chapter too

Nice try

Post automatically merged: Oct 10, 2019

The only thing Mihawk fans have is :
WSS title

Since they know his MF feats sucks and his duels was vs high tier shanks.

Apart from that... we have Mihawk with possibly one top tier haki ...
He is never a conqueror...no CoC

ok clown

 

[Finalbeta]

mihawk

If C includes M then yeah possible