Versus Battle Kakuzu vs Kisame
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Kakuzu isn't stronger, Kisame's got much more impressive jutsu, larger scale, physically superior (movement speed might be equal but Kisame has much better reactions), a much better ultimate and quasi-ultimate jutsu in Shark Dance Water Dome and Daikodan.
Kisame's the full package whereas Kakuzu's ninjutsu combo's, the highlight of his AP, didn't catch a weakened Kakashi.
I lean towards Kisame being smarter too, but at the very least he's more analytical than Kakuzu. Kakuzu fell for Shikamaru's tricks, which is not really a downside to him, but he only recognized the problem after falling for it. And for Naruto he was completely fooled. Whereas Kisame deciphers Killer Bee's machinations and effectively counters 3 attacks at once in the span of a second.
Kisame's the full package whereas Kakuzu's ninjutsu combo's, the highlight of his AP, didn't catch a weakened Kakashi.
I lean towards Kisame being smarter too, but at the very least he's more analytical than Kakuzu. Kakuzu fell for Shikamaru's tricks, which is not really a downside to him, but he only recognized the problem after falling for it. And for Naruto he was completely fooled. Whereas Kisame deciphers Killer Bee's machinations and effectively counters 3 attacks at once in the span of a second.
You phrase it like you've made a point but you really didn't.
Might Gai is hand tailored to beat Kisame. A Taijutsu specialist of his caliber removes Kisame's advantages of absorbing ninjutsu and generally being physically more imposing than his opponents.
The fact he can beat Kisame has no real barring on this match up because Kakuzu is infinitely worse in the realm of physicals than 6th gate Gai.
Not to mention my issue is that Kakuzu's highlighted ability, ninjutsu combination, could not catch an already worn out Kakashi. He ended up snagging him later and almost KO'd Kakashi so kudos to that, but that's only when Kakashi was at one of his lowest points due to a lack of chakra—an issue Kisame does not and will not suffer from in this match up.
Might Gai is hand tailored to beat Kisame. A Taijutsu specialist of his caliber removes Kisame's advantages of absorbing ninjutsu and generally being physically more imposing than his opponents.
The fact he can beat Kisame has no real barring on this match up because Kakuzu is infinitely worse in the realm of physicals than 6th gate Gai.
Not to mention my issue is that Kakuzu's highlighted ability, ninjutsu combination, could not catch an already worn out Kakashi. He ended up snagging him later and almost KO'd Kakashi so kudos to that, but that's only when Kakashi was at one of his lowest points due to a lack of chakra—an issue Kisame does not and will not suffer from in this match up.
But Kisame can absorb raiton? He does it many times against Bee.
Pein stated that Kisame has the largest reserves of chakra in Akatsuki. Pein could use an assortment of ninjutsu, wipe out Konoha, make a multi—mountain sized Chibaku Tensei (saying he’ll make it bigger if necessary) and died of chakra exhaustion resurrecting the dead masses of Konoha.
The scale of Kisame’s ninjutsu isn’t an issue
Pein stated that Kisame has the largest reserves of chakra in Akatsuki. Pein could use an assortment of ninjutsu, wipe out Konoha, make a multi—mountain sized Chibaku Tensei (saying he’ll make it bigger if necessary) and died of chakra exhaustion resurrecting the dead masses of Konoha.
The scale of Kisame’s ninjutsu isn’t an issue
We’ll your talking about ninjutsu scale so chakra reserves do 100% matter.
Nah, they really aren’t relative lol. I think without Samehada they’re about equals, with Samehada Kisame is a clear cut above Kakuzu. His ninjutsu is superior to Kakuzu’s and once he fuses with Samehada there’s really nothing Kakuzu can do at that point.
470 has a few different times it happened but here’s the only decent page I can find on a quick google.
Nah, they really aren’t relative lol. I think without Samehada they’re about equals, with Samehada Kisame is a clear cut above Kakuzu. His ninjutsu is superior to Kakuzu’s and once he fuses with Samehada there’s really nothing Kakuzu can do at that point.
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470 has a few different times it happened but here’s the only decent page I can find on a quick google.