Character Discussion Luffy is going to be so cool with his new trio.

Kiiro

Kiiro

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#121
#121
Sigran101 said:
There's no reason to assume Jinbei doesn't have another "ultimate" techinique that's stronger. He clearly wasn't pushed to his limit.

Fishmen's strength increases in the water. That's been stated blatantly in the manga dozens of times. Don't give me that bullshit. We don't need feats to scale water Jinbei vs land Jinbei when the manga explicitly states that fishmen are stronger in the water over and over.

If we're not taking that into account then what are you basing Jinbei having "serious injuries" on? He never said anything during the fight that implied he was being pushed, the way all the other strawhats did in their high-extreme diff wano fights. He was never kocked down. He never had white eyes. He never even flinched from pain. Every time he got hit his facial expression remained nuetral. We never saw him bleed excessively or cough up blood. If we don't even care about his appearance then what are you basing him being pushed to high diff on? Literally just the fact that his last move has "ultimate" in the name? Franky vs Sasaki was high diff. King and Queen were extreme diff because Zoro and Sanji collapsed afterwards. Jinbei vs WW was mid diff at the absolute worst.
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Well, he indeed was pushed to his limit lol. At least mentally, which is the reason he used some of his best techniques. It was a high diff.

And will there be a reason to asume he is much stronger? Dont say headcanon.

You are just saying stupid things, Jimbei didnt say he was being pushed? He doesnt need to, you need to learn how to read the feats, Jimbei was being spammed without being able to stop Who's Who until he could stop him with haki. He doesnt need to cry in pain, that is his character.

Dude, learn the difference between High Diff and Extreme diff, it wasnt an extreme diff where he is very weakened.

Midd diff? That is stupid, Jimbei was pushed to use his best moves, Jimbei was damaged, was pierced, was outspeeded.

He barely gave some hits to Who Who.
 
Sigran101

Sigran101

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#123
#123
Kiiro said:
Well, he indeed was pushed to his limit lol. At least mentally, which is the reason he used some of his best techniques. It was a high diff.

And will there be a reason to asume he is much stronger? Dont say headcanon.

You are just saying stupid things, Jimbei didnt say he was being pushed? He doesnt need to, you need to learn how to read the feats, Jimbei was being spammed without being able to stop Who's Who until he could stop him with haki. He doesnt need to cry in pain, that is his character.

Dude, learn the difference between High Diff and Extreme diff, it wasnt an extreme diff where he is very weakened.

Midd diff? That is stupid, Jimbei was pushed to use his best moves, Jimbei was damaged, was pierced, was outspeeded.

He barely gave some hits to Who Who.
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Best techniques = headcannon

The reason is that the manga explicitly states it repeatedly. Do you want me to go through and pull up the panels?

Re read the fight. WW couldn't get a clean hit in. Jinbei couldn't stop him? Every attack got blocked. When WW lunged at him he grabbed him by the teeth and tossed him over his shoulder. Then WW went all out, and Jinbei's defence was so strong that WW was the one who got hurt. You're just seeing what you want to see. The fact that he barely attacked WW is part of why it was a mid diff. He only needed like 4 attacks to knock him out, and he didn't even have access to water. Don't let your bias blind you.
 
Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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#124
#124
Imo the yonko commanders parallel the strawhats crews at different times

At the start i think "hierarchy wise" even tho the shs dont really have one outside of captain
I think the sweet commanders are a good comparison to the monster trio. Luffy obviously being katakuri, zoro smoothie, and sanji cracker

Into wano kaido's all star no longer have a luffy parallel. Instead the strongest one this time is king the zoro of the crew, with queen being the sanji, and jack imo being the jinbe.

The same will likely apply to the red haired and blackbeard commanders too
 
F

faker

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#126
#126
Robin swan said:
What are you even talking about? The point is jinbe was nowhere near Jack Sanji was a couple floors up from the live floor so right in the vicinity of queen. This isn't about wings or saying jinbe is more important than Zoro or Sanji it's that the sh's won't have a commander trio and that jinbe is supposed to be a important figure for the sh's not somehow irrelevant or next to Franky. I think you are misreading or misunderstanding the point.
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I have no misunderstanding. What I want to say is that no matter where Jinbei is, if the author wants him to fight jack, there are many ways, but he doesn't do so
 
LadyVados

LadyVados

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#127
#127
Luffy's three commanders will be Judge’s Son, Yamato and Jinbe

Zoro will be a vice-captain like Oden/Ace while those 3 will be Marco, Jinbe, Vista
 
Koro

Koro

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#128
#128
Yes, he is cool with 3 YC Zoo-Sanji-Jimbei. But this is normal for Yonkou having 3 high Tier.

He is so "cool" if having 3 YC1 - viewed by the world- : Zoro-Sanji-Jimbei but there is Yamato /or/ Zoro-Sanji-Yamato but there is ex-warlord Jimbei

Related with: he is going to be cool having 3 Top Tier Crew who can take admirals/yonkou + another 1 with special WaTeR environtment.
 
Sigran101

Sigran101

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#129
#129
I think Luffy having 4 monster subordinates is completely reasonable. Remember that while the current best pirate crews have 3, Luffy has to surpass all of them, and he only has 10-11 people total. Why can't Yamato and Jinbei coexist in a group of four with Zoro and Sanji?
 
Kiiro

Kiiro

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#134
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Sigran101 said:
Best techniques = headcannon

The reason is that the manga explicitly states it repeatedly. Do you want me to go through and pull up the panels?

Re read the fight. WW couldn't get a clean hit in. Jinbei couldn't stop him? Every attack got blocked. When WW lunged at him he grabbed him by the teeth and tossed him over his shoulder. Then WW went all out, and Jinbei's defence was so strong that WW was the one who got hurt. You're just seeing what you want to see. The fact that he barely attacked WW is part of why it was a mid diff. He only needed like 4 attacks to knock him out, and he didn't even have access to water. Don't let your bias blind you.
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It aint headcanon. Those are his best techniques *faceplam. Both are called "Ultimate".

Go through and bring me those panels.

WW gave many hits to Jimbei, how can you say he couldnt give a clean hit? WW just used rokushiki abilites against Jimbei.

WW indeed got hurt once Jimbei somehow endured his armament haki, before he was getting damaged by WW. Why do you ignore this? I already posted the scans where WW stated that Jimbei's defense couldnt stop him and even Jimbei states it. Step being a troll and learn to read.
 
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