Has Kaido been defeated!?


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Another time when Oda gives a subtle explanation that internal conflict was the major reason Rocks lost

And of course, the government didn't even bother to mention Roger, talk about Garp the fake hype. No wonder he doesn't like to mention it :josad:
Garp in God Valley probably was like Smoker in Alabasta.
Roger and his crew took care the whole Rocks Pirates, but Navy tried to appoint Garp as Hero to save face.
Luffy and his crew took care the whole Baroque Works, but Navy tried to appoint Smoker as Hero to save face.

Only difference is Smoker didn't accept the fraud reward while Grandpa Monkey shamelessly accepted it.
 

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Let be honest, if this is all what Zoro character offer for this arc, hell all the theory, all the promised what was for Zoro, all the speculation, his build up for this arc, must feelt very disappointed for the Zoro fandom.

Like legit you guya waited so long for that moment and there been so many hints. But in the end Zoro was not the monster Samurai. He got his cut moment but it never feel impressive, in fact Kaido never mention him after.

I feel like the predict about Zoro overcome and became the next Oden already in wano totally fail off.

Of course beating King isn't bad, but in the end he was just a YC1lvl guy... What I imagine for Zoro and what we actually got, it pretty underwhelming. How you other guys think about(Zoro fandom?).

Im be honest I was neutral in case for Zkk, had a discussion with Jo and others and even said that I could see ZKK happening. But I doubt after this chapter that is going to happen.

After all the years of debating ZKK,how the Zoro fandom thinks about it, how you guys react if ZKK not happen? Are you guys are happy with Zoro build up in wano so far?

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Are you guys happy with Zoro performance so far(in case if ZKK not happening)?
Im be honest, the only way how it could happen is if Kaido awakes and stand up, since if he stand up it clear that Luffy would need help against a stronger Kaido(awakening). But right it is hard to see such a scenario.
Reborn perfectly summed it up.
I just want more Zoro lore tbh, ZKK is cool and all but I’d rather have all the Wano and Shimotsuki connections he has to be explained. I think it’s leaning towards him being a Shimotsuki pretty heavily, and supposedly there’s enough hints in the story to piece it all together (according to Greg), but still, an actual confirmation would be great.

Whether it’ll actually happen or not is pretty unstable right now unfortunately, since Oda even said he was unsure if he would elaborate on it, but if he doesn’t then I’d be unsatisfied
 
Morj is either going to be very unhappy or be very much in denial (in regards to the raid still failing lol)
Morj is about to make some copium videos with him saying the Kaido will still get back up and that the raid will still fail.

He probably won't admit that he was wrong until we get confirmation of Kaido's defeat and everyone celebrating.:jackcopium:
 
Let be honest, if this is all what Zoro character offer for this arc, hell all the theory, all the promised what was for Zoro, all the speculation, his build up for this arc, must feelt very disappointed for the Zoro fandom.

Like legit you guya waited so long for that moment and there been so many hints. But in the end Zoro was not the monster Samurai. He got his cut moment but it never feel impressive, in fact Kaido never mention him after.

I feel like the predict about Zoro overcome and became the next Oden already in wano totally fail off.

Of course beating King isn't bad, but in the end he was just a YC1lvl guy... What I imagine for Zoro and what we actually got, it pretty underwhelming. How you other guys think about(Zoro fandom?).

Im be honest I was neutral in case for Zkk, had a discussion with Jo and others and even said that I could see ZKK happening. But I doubt after this chapter that is going to happen.

After all the years of debating ZKK,how the Zoro fandom thinks about it, how you guys react if ZKK not happen? Are you guys are happy with Zoro build up in wano so far?

@nik87 @Finalbeta @style @Cinera @HA001 @zzShinichi @Peroroncino @Mr. Bushido @mly90 @ShishioIsBack @Enma @Guan Yu @Lor D. Coast @Reborn @mugiwara44
@Den_Den_Mushi @Garp the Fist @ShishioIsBack @Cinera @Light D Lamperouge @Seth @Marimo_420 @MarineHQ62 @Ryuarashi @Sword God Ryuma @Reborn @Geo @LolonoisZolo @ShadyOjiro @Dragomir @Grumpy Zoro @Monet @Sade @Rukusho
@Reborn @Geo
@ZoroSlaysDragonTuna @sneko @stairs-kun @Oblivion @yj @solis @Seth @Zowo @style @Blother @Camie @MarimoHeado @Marimo_420 @Orojackson Refugee @Zenos7 @Don DaSlayer @Guymieux @Dark Hound @HAJIKATA @Queen @LadyVados @bennbeckman @Ice devil slayer

Are you guys happy with Zoro performance so far(in case if ZKK not happening)?
Im be honest, the only way how it could happen is if Kaido awakes and stand up, since if he stand up it clear that Luffy would need help against a stronger Kaido(awakening). But right it is hard to see such a scenario.
Reborn perfectly summed it up.

They aimed and went too high, so the fall hurts much more, thats it :kayneshrug:
 
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