Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1049 Spoilers Discussion

[Extravlad]

So yh, Kaido losing to Luffy here will be proof that Joyboy does exist and that Luffy is Joyboy

It's the proof that Luffy beat Kaido 1V1 or otherwise there would be plenty of Joyboys given that he lost 7 times

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So yh, Kaido losing to Luffy here will be proof that Joyboy does exist and that Luffy is Joyboy

It's the proof that Luffy beat Kaido 1V1 or otherwise there would be plenty of Joyboys given that he lost 7 times

 

[Iam25]

More accurately what Kaido says here is "The person who manages to beat me in the future" to which King replies saying "In that case it doesn't look like Joyboy will ever appear", The implication here is that Kaido cannot be defeated (at the very least Kaido going forward from the point when they had this conversation) and that the only person that will be capable of doing so is Joyboy. Moreover the fact that Kaido is still in search of Joyboy means he has never truly been defeated yet, at the very least not since he had made that statement to King.

So yh, Kaido losing to Luffy here will be proof that Joyboy does exist and that Luffy is Joyboy

What do you think of this scene then?

With the added context, is Kaido putting Oden on emperor level? Or that these are top 5 he has faced?

 

[Geo]

Let be honest, if this is all what Zoro character offer for this arc, hell all the theory, all the promised what was for Zoro, all the speculation, his build up for this arc, must feelt very disappointed for the Zoro fandom.

Like legit you guya waited so long for that moment and there been so many hints. But in the end Zoro was not the monster Samurai. He got his cut moment but it never feel impressive, in fact Kaido never mention him after.

I feel like the predict about Zoro overcome and became the next Oden already in wano totally fail off.

Of course beating King isn't bad, but in the end he was just a YC1lvl guy... What I imagine for Zoro and what we actually got, it pretty underwhelming. How you other guys think about(Zoro fandom?).

Im be honest I was neutral in case for Zkk, had a discussion with Jo and others and even said that I could see ZKK happening. But I doubt after this chapter that is going to happen.

After all the years of debating ZKK,how the Zoro fandom thinks about it, how you guys react if ZKK not happen? Are you guys are happy with Zoro build up in wano so far?

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Are you guys happy with Zoro performance so far(in case if ZKK not happening)?
Im be honest, the only way how it could happen is if Kaido awakes and stand up, since if he stand up it clear that Luffy would need help against a stronger Kaido(awakening). But right it is hard to see such a scenario.
Reborn perfectly summed it up.

Obviously the only way it happens is if Kaido wakes up. But with how Oda has treated the fighting, even ending it the same way he said he won't be satisfying, it is not looking promising.

Kaido getting defeated without awakening is just atrocious.

Zoro has done more than enough to be honest.

 

[DarkWitch]

Big Mom got two chapters focused on her flashback from 866 to 867 and it didn't end until 868.

I knew Kaido's flashback wouldn't be that long, but I thought we would at least get one or two chapters focused on it similar to Big Mom's flashback.

Instead his flashback only ended up being four pages.

 

[Gorosei Informer]

they already got their backstory. They got rejected my some girl , no want to prove her they are better than the man she will choose.

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Thats barely anything lol. Bege got far more especially in the anime and that's just trivia for Kidd and Killer tbh. Don't get me started on Law too...

Shanks might be a sort of Doflamingo to Kidd and Killer.

But with Oda he may barely give us anything on screen for them or even nothing at worst too.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Oden was good and all but he wasn't able to tank a single thunder bagua
So I can't see him defeating kaidou

Oden had lethality, he didn't have to tank Thunder Bagua if there wasn't any interference.
Against Sun God Nikka Joyboy, Kaido had the chance to use his higher end moves from hybrid mode, drunken mode, giant dragon mode etc etc.
But against lethal DFless swordsman, 1 clean slash lands and the battle can be over already. (Kaido was basically over the moment Oden Totsuka landed). Kaido never had any chance to use his higher end moves against lethal DFless swordsman like Oden.

 

[Ashish]

It's the proof that Luffy beat Kaido 1V1 or otherwise there would be plenty of Joyboys given that he lost 7 times

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It's the proof that Luffy beat Kaido 1V1 or otherwise there would be plenty of Joyboys given that he lost 7 times

He is not defeated a single time after he made his crew
All 7 defeats are in his childhood or when he was in rocks meaning before he made his pirate group

 

[Jailer]

Wano finally over, almost

Now onto a 200 chapter arc filled with a mid tier giant

 

[OnePiss]

Elbaf is gonna be 70 chapters long full of fucking boring shit about giants

 

[Steven]

Imagine having 2 fucking Yonkous in 1 Arc and not a single one gets awakening

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Would Oden become Joyboy if the old hag didn't interfere?

Probably not as it looks to me like Kaido only developed this thought pattern after Oden's death. Maybe as a result of Oden's last words to him and Yamato's talk about Joyboy.
Technically speaking though, if Kaido did already think that Joyboy would be whoever beat him prior to meeting Oden, then yh, if Oden did beat Kaido, in Kaido's head Oden would've been Joyboy regardless of whether he was indeed the man of destiny or not. At least going off what we know from this chapter.

 

[Ashish]

Oden had lethality, he didn't have to tank Thunder Bagua if there wasn't any interference.
Against Sun God Nikka Joyboy, Kaido had the chance to use his higher end moves from hybrid mode, drunken mode, giant dragon mode etc etc.
But against lethal DFless swordsman, 1 clean slash lands and the battle can be over already. (Kaido was basically over the moment Oden Totsuka landed). Kaido never had any chance to use his higher end moves against lethal DFless swordsman like Oden.

Oden used his strongest move on kaidou
But that move didn't defeat or killed him

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

After looking at kaido's past i feel for him he was traded as soldier without his consent.

 

[OnePiss]

Giants are actual fodder

 

[Extravlad]

All 7 defeats are in his childhood or when he was in rocks meaning before he made his pirate group

Baseless claim.
He lost to Luffy 1V1 it's clear with this chapter

 

[OnePiss]

:cheers:

Admiral gang is winning

 

[Ashish]

Baseless claim.
He lost to Luffy 1V1 it's clear with this chapter

No I am talking about the previous defeats that were shown at the time of his introduction

 

[Steven]

Baseless claim.
He lost to Luffy 1V1 it's clear with this chapter

Means Luffy can defeat any Admiral as well

 

[Gol D. Roger]

He is not defeated a single time after he made his crew
All 7 defeats are in his childhood or when he was in rocks meaning before he made his pirate group

His seven defeats happened after joining Rocks, and we don't know if all 7 defeats happened during his time as a Rocks pirate. One thing we can confirm with a big of certainty is that one of these defeats happened at God Valley.

 

[Zoro suck]

Adv CoC Users: Luffy, Kaido, Shanks, Big Mom, Zoro, Blackbeard?
FS Users: Katakuri, Luffy, Kaido, All Admirals? Koby? Blackbeard? Mihawk, Sanji? Rayleigh

Prob more FS users these are just of the top of my head
(Alive Only)

Adv CoC Users: Luffy, Kaido, Shanks, Big Mom, Yamato, Enma, Lord Katakuri next appearance, possibly Blackbeard, Dragon.
FS Users: Katakuri, Luffy, Kaido, possibly Dragon, Ben Bekman.