Monkey D, didn't claim anything. If you ask me, it looks like someone isnt:
1) aware of the game lore, as in never watched the show
2) isn't either faction
Who is the mafia in this one?
I mean as in soul reapers, Arrancar, Quincies, etc?
i think ichigo and his friend's would be town but who are on the mafia side?
And other than mafia do we have 3rd party roles?
But according to the manga and the anime all the captains tried to stop Ichigo from rescuing Rukia... Only one who helped a bit was Renji and the others Urahara found from outside the captains and gotie 13 members.
Yes but the other captains all tried to kill Ichigo and his friends.
The first fight with Zaraki Kempachi happened during that arc too. And Ichigo won. He even fought Byakuya.
Suffice it to say, he is not only passingly familiar with the lore of the show, but he seems to know quite a bit.
Option 2—he isn't apart of either faction, but considers that the Ryoka could be town (
and is quite defensive of the option). This would put him at equal parts Mafia as it would Independent roles. Or, Ryoka himself, who believes that their faction is town.
This quote of his can be taken many ways, as you have taken it differently from me. What's funny is that you quoted him right after that and went on with his statment instead of calling him out on it.
Not only was I on mobile and couldn't post much at the time, but I was also using that quote as a keystone part of my bigger post earlier. It wasn't ignored by me.
Anyway for what your reasons for,
#1- seem weak. Does it matter if I say that the Captains are town vs you saying they are mafia? It means nothing if he isn't claiming he is a captain or a Ryoka which as we know, isn't allowed.
#2- makes sense. He could be mafia, but that isn't enough. How about you pressure him on it or something of that nature?
1—What he said throughout this day is about as close to claiming as we can get within the game limitations. How exactly is it weak for him to pick a pretty clear side on which faction is considered town?
2—Read his other posts. He has been adamant on his views. Not only that, but I'm positive he's being straight and clear knowing the subject matter for this Mafia.
Cool. So is everyone else. Now how do I tell if your lying?
Through my posts. If you catch inconsistencies in them, good chance is I'm lying. Beyond that? Without the ability to claim? Realistically, how would you even propose I verify myself day 1?
Why. Ever heard of explaining? Helps with debate as well as time consuming questions such as why.
Unless you want to confirm your own role and wincons, which isn't allowed, this line of questioning is worthless.
I hope you understand that at the moment, your defense for yourself is very weak. You can't claim, so that is out of the option, and you seem to be targeting the existence of things rather then the actual reason of things. Like when someone is voting you, you start attacking the vote not the reasons behind it.
Because I'm trying to clear up the confusion behind the game itself. It's pretty clear what I'm going after, and it's not like I'm trying to hide or merely yakking here with nothing posts. I have nothing to hide. I'm trying to prevent a mislynch, as I said so much much earlier in this thread (page 3 or 4).
I have no discernible reason to suspect you or Beta for voting me at the moment, besides both of you being confused townies. Albeit, Beta's logic makes no sense as of now to me, I think it's a communication break down.
My theory of you is: you are a Ryoka that came up with the theory that actually solidifies your faction as town. Of course my theory will fail if-
You are a Ryoka and turn out to be town
You are a Shinigami and turn out to be town
The latter is the worse outcome for me.
I don't care for your theories on my role. Take a look at my actions, I'm trying to unify town before we begin lynching people at random. The only way that can benefit us if a Ryoka themselves is lynched and is revealed town. Which, do you really wanna roll the dice and risk losing out on some potentially good role (Vig, Doctor, Invest, etc) early because of that? When you could just have as easily listened to me?
