Character Discussion Kaido is the worst antagonist in the entire series and his "backstory" is objectively awful

#22
You either address the points I made, or you don’t lol. Obviously you chose the latter.

You think Hody is the worst, and that’s fine, everybody is entitled to their own wrong opinions, but the fact about Hody is that he had real themes and symbolism written into his character.

Kaido is incoherent garbage compared to Hody lol. And keep in mind, I don’t even think Hody is a great villain, but Kaido is just that awful.
A Kaido fan could probably explain why Kaido is a better villain and I'm pretty sure you will never listen because of your hatred for Kaido.

Just like how ZKK haters will never listen to anything ZKK fans say.

I don't even think Kaido is the best antagonist, heck I don't even deny your points about Hody but that doesn't mean I suddenly agree with them and think Hody is way better villain than Kaido.

And you are right about wrong opinions, you definitely have plenty.:milaugh:


Also I'm not trying to come off as cold and mean in my replies to you, I just really don't like Hody at all lol.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#23
A Kaido fan could probably explain why Kaido is a better villain and I'm pretty sure you will never listen because of your hatred for Kaido.
I’m all ears if any Kaido fans manage to identify a single consistent or coherent theme in Kaido’s character lol. Most Kaido fans I know agree with me that his writing is garbage and only fan him for his strength and because they think he is badass in the moments where Oda isn’t writing him to be a coward lol. I think @MonsterKaido especially will vouch for me that I have spoken up for Kaido’s strength recently.

I’m not blindly biased against Kaido, I’m not that invested into OP anymore. At this rate I expect Oda to ruin Akainu too lol. I dislike Kaido because he is so atrociously written and even his fans agree with me on that point lol. I can’t think of any OP villains in the past who were as shallow and incoherent as Kaido.
 

Peroroncino

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#24
The virgin Akainu:"Hrrr im gonna kill you son of dragon your bloodline cant be allowed to live duhr"


The CHAD Kaido: "i have a dream that i will become joyboy that i am the person my best friend king wants me to be.
I will create a world of war for that is where the true nature of men is revealed.
Also because onis are supposed to rule over humans as the superior race and thus i shall find the glorious death i seek."
 
#27
Kaido isn't even close to being the worst antagonist in the series, and as for his backstory if that's all we get then yes his backstory is trash.

The worst antagonists in the series is Hody and Foxy.
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Hody actually had a real character and a coherent theme. He was all about how racism spirals out of control from generation to generation, and why it’s important for people to eliminate small-minded thinking before it manifests into something truly dangerous.

Hody actually had a real backstory and consistent character.

Kaido is so doo doo diarrhea BiG sTrOnG mAn with no consistent character or coherent themes written into him whatsoever because Oda stopped caring about actual story-telling a long time ago lol.
Kaido is much more important to the story than Hody, so any flaw with his character stands out much more.
 
#35
If this chapter truly is all there is to Kaido's backstory then its pretty disappointing ngl, especially considering how much it could have been and how much Oda was hinting towards it.

I can't believe i'm saying this, but even Big Mom's backstory is better than kaido's.

Oda gives 12 chapters for Loden, but just 4 pages for Kaido, really?? :seriously:

What makes this worse is that Kaido genuinely could have been one of the best antagonist in the series, held only back by his unclear motivations before this chapter came out. I said before that how good a villian Kaido would become would depend on his flashback and backstory since Oda hasn't given much of an effort to develop and explain Kaido's motivations, only hints and teases through the words that kaido say and through the flashbacks of other characters like King and Yamato. The flashback didn't really reveal anything interesting that wasn't already hinted or teased before.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#38
Oda gives 12 chapters for Loden, but just 4 pages for Kaido, really?? :seriously:
And compare this to Doflamingo who got like 5 chapters of backstory. Lol

Or compare this to Crocodile who doesn’t even need a backstory to be regarded by most as a great villain.

Then we get to Kaido, who until now most people agreed was poorly written but were convinced a backstory would save, only for Kaido to get only 4 pages of backstory that solve none of the issues with his character. Lol
 
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