Powers & Abilities Ryuma has unquestionably the biggest hype of any character in the setting living or dead.

#62
What kinda bullshit is that?
1. If Whitebeard Pirates can come, Straw Hats can come, Minks can come. How come Government doesn't dare to enter it?
Spoiler: They are afraid.

2. When Akainu was worried about Wano, did he say "the samurai power" or "no way to enter Wano"?
wb came with is fleet entirely destroyed
strawhats lost their ship, minks are allies to the wano royal family so they know the secret to enter
 
#63
What kinda bullshit is that?
1. If Whitebeard Pirates can come, Straw Hats can come, Minks can come. How come Government doesn't dare to enter it?
Spoiler: They are afraid.

2. When Akainu was worried about Wano, did he say "the samurai power" or "no way to enter Wano"?
1. it's canon bullshit, now I don't remember where it's stated but the whole "WANO IS CLOSED" is exactly that, the fact that it's unaccessible. See that you have to ride fishes to get in, that WB got stranded by mistake and look at the big meme pirates.
2. I think he said the samurai power, but the first point still stands.
 

Pantheos

Heavy Metal
#64
1. it's canon bullshit, now I don't remember where it's stated but the whole "WANO IS CLOSED" is exactly that, the fact that it's unaccessible. See that you have to ride fishes to get in, that WB got stranded by mistake and look at the big meme pirates.
2. I think he said the samurai power, but the first point still stands.
He didn’t said „because of the samurai power“, he said „we have no idea how strong these samurai are“. This isn’t saying they have a particular level, he just doesn’t know if they are Alvida or Linlin-Level.
 
#68
nice to start an argument with an insult!
You should start to argue without and more like a grown up. Otherwise you get a break.

but about your „argument“.
We have no idea how strong the government back then was, could be even Buggy level. Also, the Marines and WG never stated they now (!) don’t invade cause Ryuma was strong, they don’t for the simple reason they have no idea how strong the people in wano are. This has literally nothing to do with Ryuma.

Read this. As slow as you like.

He didn’t said „because of the samurai power“, he said „we have no idea how strong these samurai are“. This isn’t saying they have a particular level, he just doesn’t know if they are Alvida or Linlin-Level.
Akainu isn't worried about Kaido nor Big Mom, but worried about samurai in Wano.
Connect the dots.

P.s.
Since you seem to miss this part, I will repeat again.
Ryuma >>> Roger is not only linked via Roger ~ Whitebeard thus Ryuma >>> Roger. But it is linked directly.
Roger died, a bit later, Government is hunting his pregnant wife.
Ryuma died, centuries later, Government still doesn't want to touch Wano.
So Ryuma >>> Roger.
 

Pantheos

Heavy Metal
#70

Read this. As slow as you like.


Akainu isn't worried about Kaido nor Big Mom, but worried about samurai in Wano.
Connect the dots.

P.s.
Since you seem to miss this part, I will repeat again.
Ryuma >>> Roger is not only linked via Roger ~ Whitebeard thus Ryuma >>> Roger. But it is linked directly.
Roger died, a bit later, Government is hunting his pregnant wife.
Ryuma died, centuries later, Government still doesn't want to touch Wano.
So Ryuma >>> Roger.
Try to understand what i said. Your argument makes no sense. They maybe feared Ryuma back then, i dont even argue against. But we have no idea how strong the government etc. pp. was back then.

RIght now, Akainu isnt afraiod of Ryuma, since he is dead long ago. He isnt "afraid" of the samurai, he simply has no idea how strong they are, so he cant plan how much people are needed. And with a kind of military force, you need to be carefull, otherwise people like Blackbeard use your missing manpower.



No word about Ryuma or his history.

At the end, nobody cared about Ryuma anymore. And to be honest, all Samurai were kinda dissapointing. With Ryumas only feat to beat some random Dragon, a feat nearly everyone in the New World is capable of, he is also not expected to be that strong. He maybe was strong in his time, but it seems to be a "weak time" then.
 
#72
All of you heretics who keep slandering the sword god's name are just proving my point about how stupid you all are. Every era had Top Tiers aside from Ryumas apparently. For some reason during his time everybody was fodder allowing a guy that is according to you weaker than TB Zoro to keep a world-spanning organization and Pirates through the new world from conquering the country that was known in his day as the Country of Gold, is the origin point of Ponelgphys, and Sea stone. Emperor or Admiral level fighters either didn't exist or if they did they for some reason chose not to easily conquer Wano apparently. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

To the trolls that make these claims as a joke, alI can say is weak bait. To those that actually make these arguments in earnest? You cant be helped.

In particular, the clowns who keep going with the narrative of "so what he slew a dragon big deal all straw hats can" should not be too surprised it is revealed Ryuma did some shit like killing the several Miles tall giant whose skull most of the fight against Kaido took place at in some future flashback. Because it won't be Oda pulling shit out of thin air. The hype was there. You downplayers were just too stupid to see it.

Keep seething that your Joyboy, Nika, and all the bums of history didn't win while Ryuma on his own kept the whole world out of Wano.
 
#73
All of you heretics who keep slandering the sword god's name are just proving my point about how stupid you all are. Every era had Top Tiers aside from Ryumas apparently. For some reason during his time everybody was fodder allowing a guy that is according to you weaker than TB Zoro to keep a world-spanning organization and Pirates through the new world from conquering the country that was known in his day as the Country of Gold, is the origin point of Ponelgphys, and Sea stone. Emperor or Admiral level fighters either didn't exist or if they did they for some reason chose not to easily conquer Wano apparently. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

To the trolls that make these claims as a joke, alI can say is weak bait. To those that actually make these arguments in earnest? You cant be helped.

In particular, the clowns who keep going with the narrative of "so what he slew a dragon big deal all straw hats can" should not be too surprised it is revealed Ryuma did some shit like killing the several Miles tall giant whose skull most of the fight against Kaido took place at in some future flashback. Because it won't be Oda pulling shit out of thin air. The hype was there. You downplayers were just too stupid to see it.

Keep seething that your Joyboy, Nika, and all the bums of history didn't win while Ryuma on his own kept the whole world out of Wano.
Pre-Timeskip Zoro with two swords > indestructible and invulnerable Ryuma.
Ryuma Body < Oars body < Vice admiral.

:mihanha:
Your god is on the same level as Chapapa and Kumadori, incredible
 
#75
Pre-Timeskip Zoro with two swords > indestructible and invulnerable Ryuma.
Ryuma Body < Oars body < Vice admiral.

:mihanha:
Your god is on the same level as Chapapa and Kumadori, incredible
Ryuma twenty seconds prior to his death of old age after the entire world failed to defeat him could almost assuredly no diff whatever you and the other members of the Carnival consider being Top Tiers these days. The day of reckoning shall come for you all in his flashback.

:zosmug:
 
#77

Read this. As slow as you like.


Akainu isn't worried about Kaido nor Big Mom, but worried about samurai in Wano.
Connect the dots.

P.s.
Since you seem to miss this part, I will repeat again.
Ryuma >>> Roger is not only linked via Roger ~ Whitebeard thus Ryuma >>> Roger. But it is linked directly.
Roger died, a bit later, Government is hunting his pregnant wife.
Ryuma died, centuries later, Government still doesn't want to touch Wano.
So Ryuma >>> Roger.
This is a hard reality for some to accept. That's why they continue to push this "nobody mentioned Ryuma's name" or "Ryuma was strong because he lived on weak times" BS.

Even Kaido only went to Wano after he was invited there but that old lady.

Nobody has as much hype as Ryuma and it makes them upset because he has connections to Zoro. We all know anything that makes Zoro look good and powerful they will hate, denie and downplay.
 
B

Ballel

#80
I have been seeing some Ryuma slander these last couple of days because "much ZKK is dead!" clowns wishing to not only discredit the Ruyma parallels between Zoro and Ruyma but also attempt to diminish what exactly it was that Ryuma did. Because everybody that has actually paid attention to the setting and lore of the One Piece world knows nobody has the hype that can even come close to this guy.

Ryuma stood against the World Government alone, and he did not only keep his country safe from falling into the WGs grubby hands or kept it from being destroyed, but he also gave Imu and his gang such a monumental ass-whooping that several hundred years after his death Akainu still keeps Kiazru from going to the island because they Navy and their government overlords are still having PTSD from the shit this man did to them.

"But Malick" some of you heretics who questions the sword gods greatness might say "we don't actually know if he fought any Top Tiers! Maybe the WG and Navy just sent fodders to Wano. Or maybe they just didn't care THAT much about the country!" and all I got to say to that is this:


Are you actually listening to what you are saying? Did you read the same Manga as I did? Watched the same show? Not only was every generation Oda revealed filled with its own various Top Tiers, but Ryuma and his deeds had to be so monumental that they kept the WG and Navy from destroying or taking over the country for hundreds of years after Ryuma had already died. Did you think Akainu hesitated to send an Admiral to that damn Island because Ryuma killed only Marine Captains and CP9 agents? That he came to be known as the sword GOD in a country world-renowned for its swordsmen because he never defeated anybody noteworthy in his life of open rebellion against the WG?

Bitch are you listening to yourself? Of COURSE this guy bodied Top Tiers!

As for the WG maybe not giving too much of a shit about Wano? Yeah I am sure they didn't care too much about the region of the world where sea stone and the Proneglphys originated from. As every One Piece reader knows those are two things neither the WG nor the navy ever really cared that much about am I right?

:ihaha:

All I got to say to you people that wish to disregard the kind of hype that Ruyma has just cause they wish to shit on Zoro by proxy (and do not act like that isn't why you people do this) is to keep one thing in mind alright? Unlike Nika, Joyboy, or whatever character you decide to dick ride this week, Ryuma actually managed to keep his country and people alive and free from WG and Navy control for hundreds of years. So keep that in mind when you wish to use the sword god's name in vain next time okay?
Yes.
Ryuma GOAT :steef:
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Ryuma literally lost to Zoro Thriller Bark level, reminder that body+soul is stronger than body. So Ryuma at the strongest was still weaker than Zoro.

Ryuma is carrot tier, or maybe Mr. One tier.
U dumb?
Did you understand how Moriah's zombies function?!
 
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