Speculations To ZKK deniers, when will Enma turn black?
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U got bodied by manga panels😂😂😂 showing that kaido is the real threat ,hell orochi being killed by everyone without adv coc so easily ,and yet u sit here talking about the narrative with zoro who mind u is stronger than anyone that has killed orochi so far is to be wasted on someone that isn’t even a threat 😂😂😂 it’s just funny is all
I never said Kaido wasn't the real threat? That doesn't mean Zoro is going to kill him. Your guys whole ZKK argument is all about taking panels out of context, or misinterpreting panels to suit your own narrative, not Oda's. None of it suggest in any way shape or form that Zoro is going to kill Kaido. Lmao
Just humor me. What happens if Orochi awakens and turns into a Massive 8 headed Serpent that towers over the Flower Capital and Onigashima? I'm not looking at this from a perspective of current Orochi, but more akin to the real Yamato no Orochi from Legends.
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There is a ton of callbacks to Skypiea in the Wano arc, and many people seem to forget that Zoro faced off against a giant Snake that was worshipped as a God, multiple times on Skypiea, and was unable to do any significant damage to it. Mythical Zoans in One Piece are based off of deities and God's. The Yamato no Orochi is no different.
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There is a ton of callbacks to Skypiea in the Wano arc, and many people seem to forget that Zoro faced off against a giant Snake that was worshipped as a God, multiple times on Skypiea, and was unable to do any significant damage to it. Mythical Zoans in One Piece are based off of deities and God's. The Yamato no Orochi is no different.
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If it doesn't blacken now then all of Zoro's sword will blacken at the same time vs Mihawk. But I doubt that. Enma will probably blacken this arc.
I like the idea that swords blacken when they fulfill the swordsmans will (along with it needing a high level CoA/CoC to do). This way, we get different moments of Zoro powering up, a good answer to why stronger people than Zoro (like Roger) don't have it but Zoro does, & why all his swords don't blacken at the same time.
I think he walks out of Wano with just Enma black and he gets a brand new sword made for him (or if he's really from Wano as Oda hinted at, his birth sword, possibly Nidai as some predict) which will become black at the same time as wado when it & wado achieve it's will WSS title
I like the idea that swords blacken when they fulfill the swordsmans will (along with it needing a high level CoA/CoC to do). This way, we get different moments of Zoro powering up, a good answer to why stronger people than Zoro (like Roger) don't have it but Zoro does, & why all his swords don't blacken at the same time.
I think he walks out of Wano with just Enma black and he gets a brand new sword made for him (or if he's really from Wano as Oda hinted at, his birth sword, possibly Nidai as some predict) which will become black at the same time as wado when it & wado achieve it's will WSS title
What narrative for Zoro killing Kaido?
Yasuie called Kaido the real threat?
Zoro got Oden's sword?
Ryuma killed a Dragon centuries ago?
Some random magazine editor talked about how maybe a new legend of slaying a Dragon can be born, in reference to Zoro having Shusui?
Kaido said there will never be a Samurai as strong as Oden?
Kaido wants to Die?
Taking a bunch of random scenes/ quotes from magazine editors and mashing them together, is not a narrative being built up for Zoro to kill Kaido.
If Zoro truly is connected to Wano, then his character arc is going to be concluded through the deep rooted history of Wano. Kaido has nothing to do with that. He's just some outsider who came to Wano because it has something he wants.
Oda established a narrative between Zoro and Hiyori and Yasuie. Neither of those two have been connected to Kaido in any way. Both of them have deep connections to Orochi.
There are two Princess' this arc. Hiyori and Yamato. There are two main figures of oppression this arc. Orochi and Kaido. Hiyori is linked to Orochi, and Yamato is linked to Kaido. Zoro is linked to Hiyori and Luffy is linked to Yamato. The princess' ALWAYS has someone act on their behalf to see their wishes fulfilled. That person is ALWAYS the one Oda establishes a bond with. Usually it's Luffy. But Oda does break the mold. On WCI it was Sanji, who saved the Country on behalf of Pudding, who couldn't bake the Wedding Cake on her own to stop Big Mom's rampage. This time it's Zoros turn, and guess what, he's linked to Hiyori, who, once again has nothing to do with Kaido.
That's establishing a narrative. Not slapping a bunch of random unconnected events together, and calling it a day.
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So was Luffy, right before he awakened. :cheers:
Yasuie called Kaido the real threat?
Zoro got Oden's sword?
Ryuma killed a Dragon centuries ago?
Some random magazine editor talked about how maybe a new legend of slaying a Dragon can be born, in reference to Zoro having Shusui?
Kaido said there will never be a Samurai as strong as Oden?
Kaido wants to Die?
Taking a bunch of random scenes/ quotes from magazine editors and mashing them together, is not a narrative being built up for Zoro to kill Kaido.
If Zoro truly is connected to Wano, then his character arc is going to be concluded through the deep rooted history of Wano. Kaido has nothing to do with that. He's just some outsider who came to Wano because it has something he wants.
Oda established a narrative between Zoro and Hiyori and Yasuie. Neither of those two have been connected to Kaido in any way. Both of them have deep connections to Orochi.
There are two Princess' this arc. Hiyori and Yamato. There are two main figures of oppression this arc. Orochi and Kaido. Hiyori is linked to Orochi, and Yamato is linked to Kaido. Zoro is linked to Hiyori and Luffy is linked to Yamato. The princess' ALWAYS has someone act on their behalf to see their wishes fulfilled. That person is ALWAYS the one Oda establishes a bond with. Usually it's Luffy. But Oda does break the mold. On WCI it was Sanji, who saved the Country on behalf of Pudding, who couldn't bake the Wedding Cake on her own to stop Big Mom's rampage. This time it's Zoros turn, and guess what, he's linked to Hiyori, who, once again has nothing to do with Kaido.
That's establishing a narrative. Not slapping a bunch of random unconnected events together, and calling it a day.
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So was Luffy, right before he awakened. :cheers:
At this point, Zoro killing Orochi would be completely anticlimactic. So many people have beheaded Orochi. Not only that, but we know that killing Orochi does pretty much nothing. Zoro killing Orochi wouldn't result in him being seen as a savior of Wano. At best, it would be Zoro saving Hiyori's life...but he's already done that twice. And Denjiro's already done it once.