Who will be the next Strawhat


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1. Carrot does not have a story centric arc that center around her as a character like earlier strawhats.
It's okay it's not necessary to join the crew, only to be recruited. That will happen AFTER Wano.


There is no mystery that surrounded her character in that arc
It's not about mystery, it's about characterization. You will understand that soon enough.


That would be jack attacking her homeland and Pedro’s sacrifice
Indeed and those are enough to start her characterization.

They did not however take down enemies that personally had effect on her.
It's okay it's not necessary to join the crew, only to be recruited. That will happen AFTER Wano.


Franky, Brook, and Jimbei would have an arc that would center around them
Wrong. Those three character did not get an arc revolving around their character but other themes or other characters. They only got a flashback and a centric storyline but not the whole arc. (For jinbe, the flashback wasn't even centered on him.


Jimbei cutting ties to big mom organization for him to join the strawhats
This was but a part of the arc. Nothing more.


2 She does not have a past that is worth mentioning, talking about, or exploring.
Wrong, Carrot's characterization is worth talking about.


If we look at the two of her flashbacks, that we have gotten from Carrot as a character there is not many depths to them from her perspective. In other words, we have not seen her past life
We don't need that.


For example, we do not know her history with Pedro, her relationship with dogstorm, cat viper, Wanda, or her reason behind her set goal. Instead, we get the bare Minimum in terms of what she was not good at. Which does show us she is not good at swordsmanship. She does, however, gain a new weapon which ends up being her gauntlets.
It's not necessary, everything we need is here. You should read what I write more carefully.


Saying that “carrot backstory is the present” is not a good excuse because her character is not the focus of the story right now and We have not seen her throughout the wano arc as of now.
Wrong. Yes it is. What you are looking for is what will happen AFTER Carrot joins the crew, what we have now are the setups, not the actual centering on the character. Don't worry, we have everything we need right now, the rest will come. You are comparing things that are uncomparable. Period.

The difference between Nami and Robin situation they were at least the main characters and official members of the crew.
Not until they were recruted LATER in the story. Never forget that.


During adventure alongside with Luffy and rest of strawhats they were surprised how Luffy, and the rest of the characters interact and treated each other.
Indeed. That's something Carrot don't need, she already knows Luffy.


Not only that they were active throughout their adventures alongside with them they did not follow into the background
Indeed, just like carrot in whole cake.


To continue Nami and Robin before they join and after they join, they gave certain dialogue that could lead to potential backstory and arc
Exactly like Carrot. You are just ignoring the setup concerning this characters. But they are here ;))


Carrot by comparison does not future enemy that strawhats need to resolve for her to become one of them.
Like I said manytime, it's not a regular strawhat story. Carrot's story revolves around her characterization not an arc.


Whole cake island flashback comparison
Irrelevant
5. Carrot is not even taking part in the big event in the one-piece story which is the wano arc.
It's okay. We have enough cahracterization for her to join the crew.


What carrot is lacking is not taking part in the current arc at hand.
No, it's not a requierement to join the crew.


However, her fight in wano arc was completely off screen by comparison
For good reason, the fight did not matter, only the defeat was important. I won't go back to that, read what I write about the subject.


So, you did not see any new abilities or new techniques from carrot's arsenal that makes her different than any other mink
That will only happen AFTER she joins, she is not a strawhat yet. Those are not requierement to join the crew.

None of the strawhats came to her defense or aid her in the situation. Strawhats have always defended countless characters and back them up in the past.
Still not a requierement to join the crew. it's irrelevant. The point of the defeat was for Carrot to experience a set back, there was no reason for a strawhat to help her here. It would have render the scene meaningless, you need to understand that your point does not stand the test of narration.

. In Carrot scenario It does not help her move forward
Wrong. Or more exactly you can't know that.

It's called a setup for a reason.

As I see it, it's preparing Carrot for an introspection so it DOES help her move forward.


So, she ends up being less important in this raid and this arc so far.
Wano is not Carrot's story, it's logical for Oda to push her back.



Before strawhats usually joins they usually show their importance within the main event of the arc they are part of.
And that happen in whole cake for Carrot. We are gonna have a problem if you keep ignoring whole cake. Carrot is linked to whole cake, not to Wano. And BOTH ARC are part of the yonko Saga, so BOTH ARC are relevant in that matter. Wake up.


In Yamato case what did she do hmm? Well Yamato handles creating Ace’s virve card.
Yamato is treated as an arc character. And there are subversive dialogue showing that the strawhat crew is not her final destination so I won't extend myself on her case, it's done.



Carrot through this arc what did she do? All right saving Marco's life, teaming up with nami in order take down one of big mom's homies and her tag teaming with Wanda against perospero which ends up being skip over in comparison to the strawhats and their alliance loses the fight. She just stood there when cat viper was down when the moon was covered. She has not done anything since.
Until you understand that both whole cake and wano have to be taken into account, you won't understand why Carrot joined the crew at the end of Wano ;)


6. She has not given a reason behind her set dream/goal that she has.
That's true, but that's also the last thing she must developp to sail the see, so we can expect it to happen very soon.

Again, you can't know until you see the end of the Saga. ;) So your point is - for the moment - irrelevant.

arrot has no depth to her character
Wrong, you should try to learn a thing or two about characterization.


Yamato on other hand has a backstory that shows us as to why she wants to achieve specific goal and she not waver since.
In fact Yamato's motivation to sail the sea is for the moment on the same level as Carrot. She has no other reason that being free. So try to avoid comparing those two characters on that front ;)


While Yamato situation is being manage by the strawhats.
Wrong, it was managed by herself.
7. Despite Carrot lost and history with the strawhats she has never said in anything about wanting to be better for luffy in the future of the story.
Just like Yamato


And that something that can only happen once the character JOINS the crew.

So this point is irrelevant right now.


Yamato did not believe she was not going to win against Kaido But. She was willing by time until Luffy returns. She does say as a child she will fight for wano sake when time comes, as well she will go out to sea get much stronger than she is now. Yamato might experience lost in a future arc, but Luffy will not hold against her.
Don't try to make Yamato fit that parameter. She does not. Yamato NEVER said that she would improve for Luffy so her place here is completely undeserved. Your argument is irrelevant here.


Carrot situation really has no self-reflection how weak she is and wanting to be better for luffy future.
You need to actually wait for that. This can only happen in a moment of rest. So wait until the end of the arc before concluding anything please ;)


If your former carrot4nakama supporter, you should be disappointed
No. Wano is not Carrot's story. I should not expect something that has no place in the story right now.


She has not even witness Luffy's new transformation, him fighting against kaido, and him defeating Kaido as well.
True, but that was just an hypothesis that could lead to a confirmation, there are still windows for confirmation in the future ;)


Will fans remember the importance throughout wano what carrot had conduct in comparison to the strawhats and their alliance? No,
No but a good fan should remember what she did in whole cake. Sad thing, you do not, you are therefore not a good fan .. case and point..


no new revelation coming from her as a character
That can only happen in a moment of rest. Wait for the end of the arc mate ;)


Her joining the strawhats at this moment in time would feel unsettling and unearned.
Wrong, it would be logical with what she did in whole cake. Don't try to find a way to trash Carrot for no reason.

Wano is just a PART of the yonko Saga, what Carrot did in whole cake was MORE THAN ENOUGH for her to join.

It won't be enough for her to be recruited, but that will happen AFTER she joins. But you will have to wait to see that ;)


As always, a lot of text for a lot of nothing.


Same arguments in circle. Same counter argumentation. Nothing here is relevant. wait a little and you will understandjust how wrong you are ;)
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Non reaction is logical, you aren't...
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What's the difference?

Joining means that you embark on the ship like Nami during east Blue or Vivi during Grandline or Robin after Alabasta.. Being recruited means that you are recognize by Luffy or the crew as a REAL Nakama and that you embark with him until the end of the story.


What I expect Carrot to do, is not to be recruited, but to REjoin the crew after wano, and be recruited AFTER Elbaf
 
Joining means that you embark on the ship like Nami during east Blue or Vivi during Grandline or Robin after Alabasta.. Being recruited means that you are recognize by Luffy or the crew as a REAL Nakama and that you embark with him until the end of the story.


What I expect Carrot to do, is not to be recruited, but to REjoin the crew after wano, and be recruited AFTER Elbaf
Carrots done. Her story ends with her going back to Zou with Nekomamushi
 
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