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Last game you were indie and lied about your win condition
Only in part, and for pretty obvious reasons. If the game reached Day 6, town would have likely lost anyway. To avoid putting myself into a position where every faction sides against me, I said I was needed Day 6.
 
And how is antagonizing Ratchet and making more enemies when we don‘t have to better?
Yea, let's help ratchet instead for him to fuck us over in the game cause Flower is such a nice person and want to help out indies. How very nice of you, you will never learn your lesson, you will be betrayed, stabbed, and fucked over so many times and you would still do the same thing all over again. If town lose this because you openly helped indies, then you have only yourself to blame.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
well, you know me long enough ratchet chan to know that indies are all the same to me, being a serial or a role similar to it does not make much difference. You can kill people right? that's enough for me. You state I have turned my brain off and became a liability cause I don't share the same vision as you regarding cooperation with indies. You had one chance for me cooperating with you and you threw it out of the windows when you stated you are not vergil and lied about hinting one and then came forward and stated you will kill that role.
No, I don't say you've turned your brain off *because you don't share my vision*. I say that because your arguments and pushes are, by and large, unintelligible. I could bring up to list of reads and point out several Null and Scum reads that should be Town reads based on the information available in this thread. I was not given the choice when it came to Vergil - it is publically announced. Like several of my actions, I get to write some flavour for it, and that's about it.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Yea, let's help ratchet instead for him to fuck us over in the game cause Flower is such a nice person and want to help out indies. How very nice of you, you will never learn your lesson, you will be betrayed, stabbed, and fucked over so many times and you would still do the same thing all over again. If town lose this because you openly helped indies, then you have only yourself to blame.
If Town lost the game, it won't be down to my actions. You are all aware that I'm going to be seeking to kill Vergil, or whomever else becomes my Hunt target, I've explained countless times that if my target is Town it's within your interests to secure my co-operation because otherwise I actually have no choice but to shoot at random guesses which will almost certainly do more damage. If your expectation here is that I will stop playing to my wincon, then you're delusional.
 

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well, you know me long enough ratchet chan to know that indies are all the same to me, being a serial or a role similar to it does not make much difference. You can kill people right? that's enough for me. You state I have turned my brain off and became a liability cause I don't share the same vision as you regarding cooperation with indies. You had one chance for me cooperating with you and you threw it out of the windows when you stated you are not vergil and lied about hinting one and then came forward and stated you will kill that role.
ask him to out prof's killer
 
No, I don't say you've turned your brain off *because you don't share my vision*. I say that because your arguments and pushes are, by and large, unintelligible. I could bring up to list of reads and point out several Null and Scum reads that should be Town reads based on the information available in this thread. I was not given the choice when it came to Vergil - it is publically announced. Like several of my actions, I get to write some flavour for it, and that's about it.
Sorry that I am actually playing this game from a mafia perspective and not getting roles names left and right and trying to solve this game by other means and caring about every single action that get fired in the game. I leave those type of stuff for people like yourself.


My reads are my own and if you don't share the same reads then that is your own problem. I pushed people for valid reasons and I will pursue anyone who I find scummy, until I verify myself otherwise that they are not. What reads that I have null and scum reads that should be town reads? I think my reads are fairly on point to be honest, and if you disagree with some of them then good for you, but that does not make you right now does it?

and here we go again with the unintelligible nonsense all over again, i find it hilarious coming from an indie who outed himself speak to me about intelligence. You are lucky you ain't playing normal mafia here otherwise I would of lead a wagon on you just by making such scummy statement that you always do when you are scum.
 
Yea, let's help ratchet instead for him to fuck us over in the game cause Flower is such a nice person and want to help out indies. How very nice of you, you will never learn your lesson, you will be betrayed, stabbed, and fucked over so many times and you would still do the same thing all over again. If town lose this because you openly helped indies, then you have only yourself to blame.
What‘s your wincon, Soul? Eliminate all threats to Town? It is, right? Yes, eliminate, not create more threats to Town because you are afraid of Ratchet. This has nothing to do with me being nice. Preventing somebody from turning into a threat is also a way of fulfilling the wincon. I play to win here. If you continue this you force him to scum side. I don‘t want this.

Besides, you are talking to a notorious backstabber here. You think I of all people am afraid of being betrayed? Lmfao. That‘s hilarious.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Sorry that I am actually playing this game from a mafia perspective and not getting roles names left and right and trying to solve this game by other means and caring about every single action that get fired in the game. I leave those type of stuff for people like yourself.
Putting half the game down as "Null" and being willfully ignorant of town-clearing elements is not Mafia.
What reads that I have null and scum reads that should be town reads?
Well I'm not going to do your job for you, am I? Like what is this expectation?
I think my reads are fairly on point to be honest, and if you disagree with some of them then good for you, but that does not make you right now does it?
If it were mere disagreement, sure. It doesn't actually matter to me either way, but you continue to fall into pitfalls because you continue to argue from positions of ignorance.
and here we go again with the unintelligible nonsense all over again, i find it hilarious coming from an indie who outed himself speak to me about intelligence. You are lucky you ain't playing normal mafia here otherwise I would of lead a wagon on you just by making such scummy statement that you always do when you are scum.
I'm not insulting you here, to be clear. I'm pointing out that the arguments you are making are not informed.
 
Besides, you are talking to a notorious backstabber here. You think I of all people am afraid of being betrayed? Lmfao. That‘s hilarious.
I will hold you to this, when the time comes.

It's funny you think I am afraid, it's just I know what type of beast I am dealing with when I see one. Can't say the same to you though.
 
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