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Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
@Dr_Professor83 it was actually my fault that @Lord Melkor died but I didn't feel like owning up to that was gonna help me. I forgot that I had a passive that makes me always hit my mark. being over eager, I sent in my action to heal sallucion in an attempt to kill Melkor. my ability would have been permanently destroyed probably if not for one of my passives. But um yeah. I figured me botching the heal would just make you angrier and more set on killing me and reveal too much to scum. oh the doc that never misses? yeah she's gotta go! didn't heal pero because I planned to iso them to see if it was worth it and time ran out. good thing imo because then I was poisoned and needed two heals to save myself.
I don't know why you wasn't just honest, it made it so hard to reconcile because I knew something was off but there was too much that looked townie.
 

EkkoLoJinx

No dude... that's a bike...!!
His was made to be sort of a balancing act between factions that kept people from blowing their load. The 1.0 version didnt fit the bill, hence why I revised it and sent him that role when the game started.
i see
well he played very protown and we had hard time punishing it
we coulda still won with his targets being town in the late game.
he was forced to fight ultra while we chill and yeet town
 
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Dragomir

Hey, Ekko, stop. The integrity of the game was lost the moment you made that post. It doesn't matter if only 2 indies saw it or the whole player list saw it. You can't expect Fuji to wrack his brain trying to figure out who saw it or not and then having to bust his ass trying to find subs for those who did or did not. What happened wasn't a singular event (like say, adding a townie to the mafia chat by accident. That can be resolved through a sub) but a universal event that affects the whole game state. Fuji can't go asking everybody if they saw your post cause that only makes things worse. Additionally, you shouldn't have pm'ed Ultra. I don't need to explain to you why that was a bad idea. Fuji made the right call. The decision's been made, stop arguing about it. Don't make yourself look worse. @Ekkologix
 
Lol xD

It was really to create the suspence before I dived my teeth into the food
The whole game in the back of my mind I was like “we really gotta do something about Blue, he’s clearly gonna turn into a kaju monster”.

It felt like when you keep procrastinating on a project and you know it’s just getting worse and worse the more you procrastinate and you’re trying to do other stuff but the weight of avoiding your problems is hanging over your head like a dark cloud.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
he wonders why scum don’t like him as indie and why he gets targeted but like I’ve told him he’s his own worse enemy he outed both pein and sks flavor for literal zero reasoning behind it. Literally said pein is frieza and sk is moriarity. I honestly thought I was subbing into a dead position and team with dod just about outed d1 pein completely outed and sk outed but able to slide by.
No, what you lot seem to not understand is that Indies are going to take certain pro town actions, you need to roll with that and focus on the fact that you don't need to eliminate them to win. If I did *nothing*, why would town do *anything* in my favour?
 

MangoSenpai

Arbiter of Truth
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its the truth and im tired of pretending its not. i see no justifiable explaination. if it wasnt then why not let us continue the game. if the next day looks abysmal he can end it. legit 48 hour night to solve this and he didnt want to. its my mistake in the first place. i saved the game from being taken to the last day. town wud complain so much for mafia winning. thats alot of headache i saved.

also pretty rich coming from u who assumes spite for everything i do
Just bing chilling man
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
You should expect that I'm going to make some pro town moves, for good faith in future. I had the role to survive most things except that lynch, and I figured if scum were going to throw that on an indie, well it'll be poorly advised to say the least. The spite thing is nonsense, I exposed Soul too.
yet you did it for no real reason - you know I was heavily advocating for us not to target you early game and to leave you to town - only time I advocated against you was on your lynch and this last cycle cause you kept playing town and against your actual wincon you had your two targets you could’ve even just worked with blue and ultra just killing doc and lower town numbers and scum as a whole would’ve had advantage possibly even coming into this cycle cause pein had vote count of two plus we would’ve had like 6 votes for mafia alone.

we w weren’t even going to waste any abilities on you and I was against just about everyone against you and we let you live and decided to shoot doc cause he was your target and you also had Vergil as another slot to hunt but you just played town which is so fucking boring and lame to watch. You actively scum hinted here while you stated you weren’t going to do that. Idk if you just play dumb or don’t actually notice you make enemies out of scum cause you ply to town sided for zero reasoning good faith I get but as a hostile indie it’s annoying when your team is getting punished for no reason.
& town didn’t believe me when I kept saying their wincons were all fake and the final indie was a true hostile.
Damn, so I was a tool for mafia all along.

Sorry town I had been brainwashed by the CCP
I was actually going to have you killed off so I can gain some further town cred cause with your flip I’d be more town read. Mango for all the times ya fucked me as scum I’m glad I was able to play you here but I was also hoping you were scum and it’s why I kept asking in our pm so we could’ve worked together haaha
 
The whole game in the back of my mind I was like “we really gotta do something about Blue, he’s clearly gonna turn into a kaju monster”.

It felt like when you keep procrastinating on a project and you know it’s just getting worse and worse the more you procrastinate and you’re trying to do other stuff but the weight of avoiding your problems is hanging over your head like a dark cloud.
You got cucked by the indies again.
Learn.
 

EkkoLoJinx

No dude... that's a bike...!!
Hey, Ekko, stop. The integrity of the game was lost the moment you made that post. It doesn't matter if only 2 indies saw it or the whole player list saw it. You can't expect Fuji to wrack his brain trying to figure out who saw it or not and then having to bust his ass trying to find subs for those who did or did not. What happened wasn't a singular event (like say, adding a townie to the mafia chat by accident. That can be resolved through a sub) but a universal event that affects the whole game state. Fuji can't go asking everybody if they saw your post cause that only makes things worse. Additionally, you shouldn't have pm'ed Ultra. I don't need to explain to you why that was a bad idea. Fuji made the right call. The decision's been made, stop arguing about it. Don't make yourself look worse. @Ekkologix
i dont care how i look
this just tells me fuji doesnt trust the players to be truthful about saying they didnt see it
meh/10
again not convinced
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
@Fujishiro my biggest concern with your game was having the mechanics of role revealing which basically were just about proven useless kagu even said I’m bp so I won’t die along with the ability to openly share the entire number of each faction 8 mafia and 4 indies that completely removes actual game solving and gives town and out and the We’re able to piece together some stuff I don’t honk they would’ve actually been able to do without that info.
 
yet you did it for no real reason - you know I was heavily advocating for us not to target you early game and to leave you to town - only time I advocated against you was on your lynch and this last cycle cause you kept playing town and against your actual wincon you had your two targets you could’ve even just worked with blue and ultra just killing doc and lower town numbers and scum as a whole would’ve had advantage possibly even coming into this cycle cause pein had vote count of two plus we would’ve had like 6 votes for mafia alone.

we w weren’t even going to waste any abilities on you and I was against just about everyone against you and we let you live and decided to shoot doc cause he was your target and you also had Vergil as another slot to hunt but you just played town which is so fucking boring and lame to watch. You actively scum hinted here while you stated you weren’t going to do that. Idk if you just play dumb or don’t actually notice you make enemies out of scum cause you ply to town sided for zero reasoning good faith I get but as a hostile indie it’s annoying when your team is getting punished for no reason.

& town didn’t believe me when I kept saying their wincons were all fake and the final indie was a true hostile.

I was actually going to have you killed off so I can gain some further town cred cause with your flip I’d be more town read. Mango for all the times ya fucked me as scum I’m glad I was able to play you here but I was also hoping you were scum and it’s why I kept asking in our pm so we could’ve worked together haaha
I would point to the root of the problem not being Ratchet's approach but the fact that his role rewarded him for such play, more of a statement against having too much indi stuff crammed into a game
 

EkkoLoJinx

No dude... that's a bike...!!
if it was me. ill let it play out.

ultra will leave eitherway and needs to yeet Lucifer who is outed gram

blue i may sub or tell to keep quiet like me in aries game when i had tmi

the rest of the game said they didnt see it. i will trust them. if they lied. shame on them. but if even atleast one player in the mafia team wants to continue, then I WILL continue. i will only end it if the whole mafia gives up


my 2 cents
 

Mashiro Blue

𝓦𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝓾𝓹𝓸𝓷 𝓪 𝓼𝓱𝓸𝓸𝓽𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓼𝓽𝓪𝓻 ✰
The whole game in the back of my mind I was like “we really gotta do something about Blue, he’s clearly gonna turn into a kaju monster”.

It felt like when you keep procrastinating on a project and you know it’s just getting worse and worse the more you procrastinate and you’re trying to do other stuff but the weight of avoiding your problems is hanging over your head like a dark cloud.
Lmao

Yeah it would be a big big problem in the end.

A full blown SK while everyone else was out of x-shots

I was preparing rabbit eating gifs in the meantime

 
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