General & Others Elbaph needs to be a masterpiece.

Gear5PhoenixMan

Gear5PhoenixMan

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Right now lots of One Piece fans are conflicted with Wano including myself. Lots of questionable decisions.

If Oda can turn all these frowns upside down and make a comeback from one of the most hated arcs in the series, being Wano. Then maybe people will put the lackluster quality of Wano aside.

We need to see Shanks Hype, Loki Hype, Usopp Hype, Blackbeard Hype, Admiral Hype, Eustass Kidd Hype , Luffy clashing with Shanks, Vegapunk, Lurking Legend

Most importantly we need to see One Piece at it's roots. Raw emotion of the crew members. Usopp putting his all into becoming a brave warrior of the sea, Usopp in tears as the giants of Elbaph praise him as their king or god. Strawhats in actual danger.

For example Robin gets captured by Blackbeard, Sabo is captured by the world government. Luffy has a decision to make. That's a great dilemma for the story.

We need to see good twist. Not an asspull twist like Shanks is evil. An actual good twist.
 
BillSlipton

BillSlipton

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Gear5PhoenixMan said:
Right now lots of One Piece fans are conflicted with Wano including myself. Lots of questionable decisions.

If Oda can turn all these frowns upside down and make a comeback from one of the most hated arcs in the series, being Wano. Then maybe people will put the lackluster quality of Wano aside.

We need to see Shanks Hype, Loki Hype, Usopp Hype, Blackbeard Hype, Admiral Hype, Eustass Kidd Hype , Luffy clashing with Shanks, Vegapunk, Lurking Legend

Most importantly we need to see One Piece at it's roots. Raw emotion of the crew members. Usopp putting his all into becoming a brave warrior of the sea, Usopp in tears as the giants of Elbaph praise him as their king or god. Strawhats in actual danger.

For example Robin gets captured by Blackbeard, Sabo is captured by the world government. Luffy has a decision to make. That's a great dilemma for the story.

We need to see good twist. Not an asspull twist like Shanks is evil. An actual good twist.
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You're a clown. Most fans have loved wano. Wow. How delusional
 
Gear5PhoenixMan

Gear5PhoenixMan

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BillSlipton said:
You're a clown. Most fans have loved wano. Wow. How delusional
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Nope you wano lovers are clowns.
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RoronoaZorro said:
Sir, let's not have expectations at all.
It is possible that Oda will put very minimal effort to it, he is rushing everything right now.

I agree though, we need to see all Straw Hats' emotions and dreams come true in real time.
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How about Oda doesn't make a lackluster plot.
 
Gear5PhoenixMan

Gear5PhoenixMan

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Nagasaki said:
Only complains about Wano who doesn't review Marineford. MF was much worse in fights, much more dragged, much more incoherent than Wano.

Enies Lobby was shit too, there's a thread on the forum saying what EL would be like nowadays

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...xisted-while-ennies-lobby-was-going-on.21852/
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If Enies Lobby was shit all of One Piece is shit. Enies Lobby, Water, 7, Arlong Park, Sabaody, Marineford That's One Piece at it's peak. Never has there been more emotion in the story than those arcs.

Though the anime made Enies Lobby a lot better. I'm mainly speaking from anime perspective. but even in manga those arcs were better than Wano just the art style alone.
 
Nagasaki

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Gear5PhoenixMan said:
If Enies Lobby was shit all of One Piece is shit. Enies Lobby, Water, 7, Arlong Park, Sabaody, Marineford That's One Piece at it's peak. Never has there been more emotion in the story than those arcs.

Though the anime made Enies Lobby a lot better. I'm mainly speaking from anime perspective. but even in manga those arcs were better than Wano just the art style alone.
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I don't think sales is a good argument, in general all mangas are at their peak in half of them. There are several variables, One Piece has been active for a long time so a decay is natural. Anyway, Marineford and Ennies Lobby are full of mistakes, inconsistencies, just like Wano or even more.

In the anime sense, Wano doesn't help as it's two chapters per episode. It's very boring to watch the anime and it changes public opinion.
 
Gear5PhoenixMan

Gear5PhoenixMan

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Nagasaki said:
I don't think sales is a good argument, in general all mangas are at their peak in half of them. There are several variables, One Piece has been active for a long time so a decay is natural. Anyway, Marineford and Ennies Lobby are full of mistakes, inconsistencies, just like Wano or even more.

In the anime sense, Wano doesn't help as it's two chapters per episode. It's very boring to watch the anime and it changes public opinion.
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No, Enies Lobby and Marineford were as perfect as they could of been. The only "plot holes" would be CP0 not having true haki, and Admirals not killing Luffy at Marineford. Nothing like Wano plot holes and shredded plot lines. Gum gum fruit suddenly a God Zoan.
 
Nagasaki

Nagasaki

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Gear5PhoenixMan said:
No, Enies Lobby and Marineford were as perfect as they could of been. The only "plot holes" would be CP0 not having true haki, and Admirals not killing Luffy at Marineford. Nothing like Wano plot holes and shredded plot lines. Gum gum fruit suddenly a God Zoan.
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See the list of inconsistencies in EL that I left the link above. Review Marineford and you will see that there are more errors there than Wano, at least related to PL
 
JohnnyBme

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"For example Robin gets captured by Blackbeard, Sabo is captured by the world government. Luffy has a decision to make. That's a great dilemma for the story. "

I think Strawhats need to split again
easier for Oda when it'll be less characters - like Whole Cake island - Luffy Brook Nami Sanji Carrot
maybe 2 arcs of split with Zoro and Luffy splitting
but Oda can't leave luffy alone
 
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