General & Others Blackbeard and Straw Hat Pirate similarities

[Monkey D. Luffy]

I am documenting the similarities each Straw Hat has to their assumed Blackbeard Pirate counterparts and will update with new information or input from other users. Luffy aims for ten members (himself excluded), and Blackbeard has ten Titanic Captains; clearly the Blackbeard Pirates are the Straw Hats' (as TV Tropes calls it) "Psycho Rangers." Determining the Blackbeard Pirates match-ups is tricky because their similarities aren't limited to just one Straw Hat. Lafitte is a navigator like Nami but also brandishes a cane like Brook, so who does he mirror exactly? I'm going with the "jobs versus jobs" theory. One, they tell you more about each member on a deeper level, and two, they make this neat pattern (as you'll see below).

Titan 1 VS First New World Recruit

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Jesus Burgess (1) + Jimbei (9)

• Roles: Helmsman.
• Specialize in a specific martial arts.
• Renowned for their strength.

Also comparable to: Sanji, Franky

Titans 2–5 VS East Blue Recruits

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Shiryu (2) + Roronoa Zoro (1)

• Shiryu has no confirmed role (combatant? swordsman?).
• "Number two" of their crew (according to the 1031 colorspread).
• Devoted to the blade.
• Met their captain while incarcerated.
• Infamous at their former occupation, which involved rough-housing convicts.
• Shiryu is the tsujigiri Zoro's been purported to be.

Van Auger (3) + Usopp (3)

• Roles: Sniper
• Auger debuted dazzling Usopp from afar with his sniping feats.
• Will find their opponent's capabilities and weaknesses with little to no strife.
• Heralded from the East Blue.
• Auger is straightlaced and possesses a firearm, but Usopp is eccentric and brandishes goofy (but lethal) slingshots.
• Auger is the calmest Blackbeard Pirate, but Usopp's the most cowardly Straw Hat.

Avalo Pizzaro (4) + Sanji (4)

• Pizzaro has no confirmed role (chef?).
• Rejected North Blue royalty.
• Pizarro might throw down with his metal arms as a contrast to Sanji's leg style.

Notes

• Ivankov neglected to name Pizarro with Catarina Devon, Sanjuan Wolf, and Vasco Shot in ch. 538. (Not the first time an okama missed someone, looks at Mr. 2.)
• Pizarro and Shiryu were the only Impel Down recruits not dawning the prisoner getup.
• Pizarro had his first postskip title box in the chapter that revealed Shiryu and Devon having Devil Fruits that are the same or similar to past Sanji opponents (just saying).

Lafitte (5) + Nami (2)

• Roles: Navigator
• Lafitte's navigational skills must be off the charts (no pun intended) if he gets by without a Log Pose.
• Exceptional infiltration skills (Lafitte's probably more exceptional because he sneaked into Sengoku's conference at Mariejois).
• Lafitte may be a sadistic constable tossed out of his own jurisdiction by its people but Nami's a well-known thief beloved in her home village.

Notes

• A male opponent would be abnormal for Nami but consider Lafitte's feminine attributes.
• Lafitte and Shiryu were reintroduced in the timeskip side-by-side with title boxes, maybe as some parallel to the Romance Trio (or Monster Trio?).
• Lafitte has hints of being a siren Zoan, seductress beings. Who else do we know is a seductress?

Also comparable to: Sanji, Brook

Titans 6–9 VS Paradise Recruits

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Catarina Devon (6) + Nico Robin (6)

• Devon has no confirmed role (historian?).
• The rumors of Robin being this vile woman are untrue, but they certainly are true for Devon.
• Dark sense of humor, but Devon takes it to another level (Robin's at least friendly).

Also comparable to: Nami

Sanjuan Wolf (7) + Franky (7)

• Wolf has no confirmed role (shipwright?).
• Relate to battleships somehow even if Sanjuan Wolf's was due to an epithet pertaining to his size.
• Round eyes with visible downward eyelash marks.

Notes

• Played vital roles when their crew lost their original ship.
• Sanjuan Wolf might be named after the Spanish warship called the San Juan Nepomuceno.

Also comparable to: Tony Tony Chopper

Vasco Shot (8) + Brook (8)

• Shot has no confirmed role (musician? entertainer?).

Notes

• The jester hat probably means Shot is a performer.

Doc Q (9) + Tony Tony Chopper (5)

• Roles: Doctor
• Associated with animals.

Also comparable to: Brook

Titan 10 VS Final New World

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Tenth Titan (10) + Tenth Straw Hat (10)

• No confirmed roles for either.
• Mystery person.

Other Notes

• Blackbeard's initial members are essentially Luffy's first five with Zoro and Sanji's counterparts swapped out for Jimbei's.
• Blackbeard had Burgess (Jimbei's counterpart) from the get-go and met Zoro's counterpart at Impel Down; Luffy had Zoro from the get-go and met Jimbei at Impel Down.

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[Shiroyru]

I am documenting the similarities each Straw Hat has to their assumed Blackbeard Pirate counterparts and will update with new information or input from other users. Luffy aims for ten members (himself excluded), and Blackbeard has ten Titanic Captans; clearly the Blackbeard Pirates are the Straw Hats' (as TV Tropes calls it) "Psycho Rangers." Determining the Blackbeard Pirates match-ups is tricky because their simularities aren't limited to just one Straw Hat. Lafitte is a navigator like Nami but also brandishes a cane like Brook, so who does he mirror exactly? I'm going with the "jobs versus jobs" theory. One, they tell you more about each member on a deeper level, and two, they make this neat pattern (as you'll see below).

Titan 1 VS First New World Recruit

Jesus Burgess (1) + Jimbei (9)

• Roles: Helmsman.
• Specialize in a specific martial arts.
• Renowned for their strength.

Also comparable to: Sanji, Franky

Titans 2–5 VS East Blue Recruits

Shiryu (2) + Roronoa Zoro (1)

• Shiryu has no confirmed role (combatant? swordsman?).
• "Number two" of their crew (according to the 1031 colorspread).
• Devoted to the blade.
• Met their captain while incarcerated.
• Infamous at their former occupation, which involved rough-housing convicts.
• Shiryu is the tsujigiri Zoro's been purported to be.

Van Auger (3) + Usopp (3)

• Roles: Sniper
• Auger debuted dazzling Usopp from afar with his sniping feats.
• Will find their opponent's capabilities and weaknesses with little to no strife.
• Heralded from the East Blue.
• Auger is straightlaced and possesses a firearm, but Usopp is eccentric and brandishes goofy (but lethal) slingshots.
• Auger is the calmest Blackbeard Pirate, but Usopp's the most cowardly Straw Hat.

Avalo Pizzaro (4) + Sanji (4)

• Pizzaro has no confirmed role (chef?).
• Rejected North Blue royalty.
• Pizarro might throw down with his metal arms as a contrast to Sanji's leg style.

Notes

• Ivankov neglected to name Pizarro with Catarina Devon, Sanjuan Wolf, and Vasco Shot in ch. 538. (Not the first time an okama missed someone, looks at Mr. 2.)
• Pizarro and Shiryu were the only Impel Down recruits not dawning the prisoner getup.
• Pizarro had his first postskip title box in the chapter that revealed Shiryu and Devon having Devil Fruits that are the same or similar to past Sanji opponents (just saying).

Lafitte (5) + Nami (2)

• Roles: Navigator
• Lafitte's navigational skills must be off the charts (no pun intended) if he gets by without a Log Pose.
• Exceptional infiltration skills (Lafitte's probably more exceptional because he sneaked into Sengoku's conference at Mariejois).
• Lafitte may be a sadistic constable tossed out of his own jurisdiction by its people but Nami's a well-known thief beloved in her home village.

Notes

• A male opponent would be abnormal for Nami but consider Lafitte's feminine attributes.
• Lafitte and Shiryu were reintroduced in the timeskip side-by-side with title boxes, maybe as some parallel to the Romance Trio (or Monster Trio?).
• Lafitte has hints of being a siren Zoan, seductress beings. Who else do we know is a seductress?

Also comparable to: Sanji, Brook

Titans 6–9 VS Paradise Recruits

Catarina Devon (6) + Nico Robin (6)

• Devon has no confirmed role (historian?).
• The rumors of Robin being this vile woman are untrue, but they certainly are true for Devon.
• Dark sense of humor, but Devon takes it to another level (Robin's at least friendly).

Also comparable to: Nami

Sanjuan Wolf (7) + Franky (7)

• Wolf has no confirmed role (shipwright?).
• Relate to battleships somehow even if Sanjuan Wolf's was due to an epithet pertaining to his size.
• Round eyes with visible downward eyelash marks.

Notes

• Played vital roles when their crew lost their original ship.
• Sanjuan Wolf might be named after the Spanish warship called the San Juan Nepomuceno.

Also comparable to: Tony Tony Chopper

Vasco Shot (8) + Brook (8)

• Shot has no confirmed role (musician? entertainer?).

Notes

• The jester hat probably means Shot is a performer.

Doc Q (9) + Tony Tony Chopper (5)

• Roles: Doctor
• Associated with animals.

Also comparable to: Brook

Titan 10 VS Final New World

Tenth Titan (10) + Tenth Straw Hat (10)

• No confirmed roles for either.
• Mystery person.

Other Notes

• Blackbeard's initial members are essentially Luffy's first five with Zoro and Sanji's counterparts swapped out for Jimbei's.
• Blackbeard had Burgess (Jimbei's counterpart) from the get-go and met Zoro's counterpart at Impel Down; Luffy had Zoro from the get-go and met Jimbei at Impel Down.

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I don’t believe in this weird numbering thing. Why does Jinbe randomly get paired with the 1st Division Commander? (although I do believe in Jinbe vs Burgess anyways)

I think it will be:

Luffy vs BB: obvious

Zoro vs Shiryu: honorable swordsman vs dishonorable swordsman

Nami vs Lafitte: navigators and noble burglar vs crooked cop

Usopp vs Augur: snipers (and I hope Augur gets Vander Decken’s Aim Fruit, which is a cheat fruit for marksmen)

Sanji vs 10th Titanic Captain: no connections yet, but none of the known BBPs fit Sanji that well imo. Pizarro being North Blue royalty is a weak connection by itself. I’m assuming that the 10th must be one of the strongest, or else why keep him a secret?

Chopper vs Doc Q: good doctor vs bad doctor

Robin vs Wolf: no known archaeologists/historians in BB’s crew, but it was shown in Wano that Robin is well suited for fighting giant characters, and I think there may be a connection between Sanjuan Wolf and Tequila Wolf

Franky vs Pizarro: basically just a process of elimination choice for now

Brook vs Shot: Shot has a jester design, so entertainer vs entertainer

Jinbe vs Burgess: martial artist vs wwe wrestler

Yamato vs Devon: mythical ice Inu Zoan vs mythical fire Inu Zoan, females, identity theme

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

I don’t believe in this weird numbering thing. Why does Jinbe randomly get paired with the 1st Division Commander?

The New World Recruits get the first and last Titans.

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Sanji vs 10th Titanic Captain: no connections yet, but none of the known BBPs fit Sanji that well imo. Pizarro being North Blue royalty is a weak connection by itself. I’m assuming that the 10th must be one of the strongest, or else why keep him a secret?

It's not the North Blue connections by itself. It's how he's treated compared to the other Impel Down recruits. He's not special like Shiryu but is more special than the rest.

 

[Yahazu]

my bet for 10 captain is weevil, it would be cool if yamato was his match.

 

[Shiroyru]

The New World Recruits get the first and last Titans.

But this is just a random assertion with no logical basis. If it was Titans 1-4 vs East Blue SHs, Titans 5-8 vs Paradise SHs, and Titans 9 and 10 vs New World recruits, then it would make more sense

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I just don’t get the Jinbe and Burgess things seems incredibly forced. Especially when we know that there’s currently an ex Warlord with Blackbeard as we speak who clashed with Jinbe in Marineford.

I agree on the numbering but disagree on Burgess vs Jinbe

However, in every new world arc so far we have seen Oda tends to give one of the strongest to a powerful ally who is connected to that villain.

Sulong Inu and Jack
Kyros and Diamante

So this leads me to assume there’s likely going to be a powerful ally in this fight to who matched burgess. Sabo is the best candidate.

Burgess has seemingly known Teech the longest on the crew. Sabo has known Luffy longer than any main character either.

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

Just to add more information to Brook vs Vasco, the Blackbeard Pirates are likely based on Terry Gilliam's movies, specially The adventures of Baron Munchausen. One of its characters is a sultan who loves to drink just like Shot (his whole plot revolves around it, in fact) and is a sadistic musician.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

But this is just a random assertion with no logical basis. If it was Titans 1-4 vs East Blue SHs, Titans 5-8 vs Paradise SHs, and Titans 9 and 10 vs New World recruits, then it would make more sense

Just because the pattern isn't simplistic to your specifications doesn't mean it's not there. The East Blue and Paradise recruit get Titans 2–9 while 1 and 10 are reserved for the New World recruits.

I just don’t get the Jinbe and Burgess things seems incredibly forced. Especially when we know that there’s currently an ex Warlord with Blackbeard as we speak who clashed with Jinbe in Marineford.

I agree on the numbering but disagree on Burgess vs Jinbe

However, in every new world arc so far we have seen Oda tends to give one of the strongest to a powerful ally who is connected to that villain.

Sulong Inu and Jack
Kyros and Diamante

So this leads me to assume there’s likely going to be a powerful ally in this fight to who matched burgess. Sabo is the best candidate.

Burgess has seemingly known Teech the longest on the crew. Sabo has known Luffy longer than any main character either.

Incorporating Sabo into the match-ups diminishes the Blackbeard Pirates being dark versions of the Straw Hat Pirates.

Just to add more information to Brook vs Vasco, the Blackbeard Pirates are likely based on Terry Gilliam's movies, specially The adventures of Baron Munchausen. One of its characters is a sultan who loves to drink just like Shot (his whole plot revolves around it, in fact) and is a sadistic musician.

I'll have to check out the movie some time.

 

[humanbeing2022]

my bet for 10 captain is weevil, it would be cool if yamato was his match.

nope he is not Weevil stated to hate BB after we got to know that BB has 10 titanic captains.
and i agree with @Shiroyru that Sanji's opponent has to be the tenth captain. he will be a pervert or okama again if you ask me.

 

[Yahazu]

nope he is not Weevil stated to hate BB after we got to know that BB has 10 titanic captains.

yes, but this is largely due to his mother's influence, i believe weevil will get rid of that influence. Anyway, it's just a bet, in one piece anything can happen, so I believe it's possible.

 

[humanbeing2022]

yes, but this is largely due to his mother's influence, i believe weevil will get rid of that influence. Anyway, it's just a bet, in one piece anything can happen, so I believe it's possible.

i agree that his mother even might have dead because of the war with WG and i bet more that he joined Buggy or better being tricked into joining Buggy he is an idiot after all. that would explain Buggy becoming a yonko

 

[Jailer]

I can see by some stretch also Yamsto vs Pizarro, former oni Princess vs former north blue King, both have horns (dunno how real Pizarro's horns are)

So Sanji or Yamato vs Pizarro or 10th recruit could work for both

Rest is how I always saw them, Sanjuan Wolf (colossal battleship) vs Franky (the straw hats shipwright dismantling the colossal battleship)
Zoro vs Shiryu, Jinbei vs Burgess, Usopp vs Van augur, Nami vs Laffitte straightforwars

Robin vs Devon because they don't fit anywhere else with these in mind.

I have in mind that few of these battles could be merged in team fights but the finishers get delivered in 1v1 in the end.

 

[Finalbeta]

They are massive warriors and very pirate like

 

[kumae]

Don't understand why so many people still thinks Strawhats East blue vs BB first 5 captains only clear we have luffy vs BB zoro vs Shiryu ussop vs auger and chopper vs Doc q
Also I see some people saying nami vs laffite and robin vs Devon but there is a funny fact Devon is known for haunt and kill beatiful woman nami is the Most beatiful in the crew and if laffite possition is because iq and not strenght then he is fighting robin or still Brook since the parallels or it could be robin + Brook vs laffite like bae maria

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But if Yamato joins she is fighting Devon

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Don't understand why so many people still thinks Strawhats East blue vs BB first 5 captains only clear we have luffy vs BB zoro vs Shiryu ussop vs auger and chopper vs Doc q

Because it fits a nice pattern.

 

[milluki]

only clear we have luffy vs BB zoro vs Shiryu ussop vs auger and chopper vs Doc q

Chopper will fight Pizarro, DocQ will fight Brook.

 

[kumae]

Because it fits a nice pattern.

Actually no as Sanji fight is either laffite/pizarro or the 10th
And nami is not fighting laffite for both being navigator if Yamato doesn't join then nami is the second candidate to fight Devon an ugly fox(dog)vs a beauty cat

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Chopper will fight Pizarro, DocQ will fight Brook.

At first I thought Brook vs doc q for both being shinigami but I read theories that he could have interest in chopper fruit for stronger
But Brook vs pizarro is an option (corrupt King vs soul King)

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Actually no as Sanji fight is either laffite/pizarro

My thing already says this.

And nami is not fighting laffite for both being navigator

She will if "jobs-vs-jobs" makes the nice little pattern I layed out.

if Yamato doesn't join

If Yamato joins, she's likely getting the 10th Titan. Just Devon is an ancient dog Zoan like Yamato, that doesn't mean they'll fight.

 

[kumae]

My thing already says this.



She will if "jobs-vs-jobs" makes the nice little pattern I layed out.

Only it seems in zoro Ussop and chopper case banaro island scene makes laffite as someone pretty fast

If Yamato joins, she's likely getting the 10th Titan. Just Devon is an ancient dog Zoan like Yamato, that doesn't mean they'll fight.

Well you see Devon is known as the hunter of the half moon Yamato is kozuki Oden their fruits seems to be counterparts and there are a lot of theories that she is turning into Oden or kaido just to fool her and Teach worked with Oden just saying

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Only it seems in zoro Ussop and chopper case

You don't think it's a coincidence Titans 2 through 5 include a navigator, a sniper, the number 2, and former North Blue royalty? And then Titans 1 and 10 (the first and last one) are a helmsman and mystery person respectively?

Well you see Devon is known as the hunter of the half moon Yamato is kozuki Oden their fruits seems to be counterparts and there are a lot of theories that she is turning into Oden or kaido just to fool her and Teach worked with Oden just saying

If Yamato joins, I'll do what I did with Nami, list her as "Also Comparable To" under Devon.